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Slain in the Spirit: Unbiblical and of satanic origin!
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Pentecostalism looks and feels good, but is rotten to the core!
Comparison Chart
What produces(ed) the "falling"
Purpose of the "falling"
How did/do people "fall"
Being slain in the spirit according to charismatic Christians
human imposition of hands
the individuals who fall (1) fake it, (2) are pushed over, (3) are under a form of hypnotic suggestion, (4) demonic force weakens them physically
many diverse reasons, physical & emotional healing, giving of "gifts," anointing for service
99% fall backwards, there is the need for others to "catch" them when they fall. Women who fall have their legs covered with clothes due to immodest positions they fall in
Biblical accounts of people falling
supernatural appearance of angels, or God Himself
revelation of Gods will, usually set down in the canon of Scripture
All fell forward, no one "caught" them, no women fell in the Scriptures
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Slain In The Spirit?
Pastor Larry Thomas makes this insightful observation regarding being slain in the Spirit at Toronto Blessing meetings:
I saw on videotape one time, everybody in the place was laying on their
backside. He finally turned around and realized that the choir hadn't been
blessed yet. And so he said "you all up in the cheap seats need some of
this," and he went like that and they all fell down, except one old man
with a hearing aid. And he looked around at everybody, and when he looked
this way, you could see on the camera the hearing aid, and you knew why he
didn't fall down, he didn't hear the command. And he looked around and then
he [falls down]. Aw, c'mon!
Do you believe the Holy Ghost is something you can roll up in a ball and
throw it across the room and knock people down? What blasphemy! Do you
think that the Holy Ghost wants us to imitate animals? I don't know what
we've got to laugh about. The world's going to hell in a handbasket. Our
loved ones, our families, our kids, our neighbours, are on their way to an
eternity in hell and the church is sitting around laughing. This is no
laughing matter. (Larry Thomas, No Laughing Matter, Audiotape, October 10,
1994)
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The Revivalists Apology for the Manifestation
The Toronto Blessing FAQ
Revised April 1997
FALLING IN THE HOLY SPIRIT- this is when we fall to the ground because we
can no longer remain standing when the power of God is on us!!! Sometimes
we remain on the ground from several minutes up to several hours, our body
simply cannot move very much because our flesh is corrupt and cannot stand
in God's full presence!!
II CHRONICLES 5:11-14 - And it came to pass, when the priests were come out
of the holy [place]: (for all the priests [that were] present were
sanctified, [and] did not [then] wait by course: Also the Levites [which
were] the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their
sons and their brethren, [being] arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and
psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an
hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:) It came even to pass,
as the trumpeters and singers [were] as one, to make one sound to be heard
in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up [their] voice
with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the
LORD, [saying], For [he is] good; for his mercy [endureth] for ever: that
[then] the house was filled with a cloud, [even] the house of the LORD; So
that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for
the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.
MATTHEW 17:5-7: While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed
them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. And when the disciples heard
[it], they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. And Jesus came and
touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
JOHN 18:5-6: They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I
am [he]. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. As soon then
as he had said unto them, I am [he], they went backward, and fell to the
ground.
ACTS 9:3-4: And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there
shined round about him a light from heaven: And he fell to the earth, and
heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
A Biblical Examination
To begin with whenever you make comparisons, for them to be honest
correlation's you must, obviously, compare "apples to apples." None of the
above texts resemble anything remotely close to what happens when believers
are slain in the spirit today. My wife and I have observed less than 10
people fall under the power with no human intervention of some variety in
30 years of combined charismatic experience. When people get slain it is
due to the direct ministry of another person, not a sovereign act of God,
as we see in 2 Chronicles 5:11-14.
Invariably, charismatic people fall down when hands are laid on
them. There are no examples of people falling down when hands were laid on
them in the Bible which is the exact model which is to be compared.
In Chronicles we read of the dedication of Solomons temple. In that
dispensation God manifested His presence to His covenant people Israel.
This case was no exception, God manifested His presence to demonstrate His
approval of the temple. After that initial service, His presence was
confined to residing above the ark of the covenant. Note also that all the
priest fell down, not just some. There is no record of a Pentecostal or
charismatic service where all the people fell out under the power of God
simultaneously. Also keep in mind the amount of priests at the dedication
numbered in the hundreds and all had the exact same experience.
Matthew 17 gives us the incident where Jesus took Peter, John and
James up to the mountain top where He was transfigured before them. There
is nothing in the text which indicates that God slayed them in the spirit.
The text states "they fell on their face, sore afraid" it does not say "the
presence of God was so strong they could not stand." Nor does it say "the
power of the Holy Spirit knocked them on their faces." It says "they fell,"
Peter, John, and James chose to fall. Why? They were afraid! It was a
voluntary act on their part, not a sovereign act of God upon their bodies.
Please note also, that at no time were they unaware of their surroundings,
i.e. they did not loose consciousness, which is common with todays spurious
manifestation.
Also, in Mark and Lukes account we read of Peter seeing Moses,
Elijah and Jesus and then Peter speaking with Jesus. These two accounts do
not even mention them falling down at all. It does mention them being
afraid, but no falling. It is textually impossible to validate what happens
in charismatic services from Matthews account.
The last text they use to shore up their doctrine is the account of
Paul encountering the Lord on the road to Damascus. What is interesting in
the Acts 9 account is that only Paul is slain, i.e. falls off of his horse.
The men with Paul, were (1) speechless, (2) heard a voice, (3) saw no one,
and (4) did not fall down. Another facet of this account is the fact that
this extraordinary manifestation is Pauls call into apostleship. This text
cannot legitimately be used to prove the machinations taking place in
charismatic circles. No one laid hands on Paul. According to the Biblical
record this was not a regular occurrence in his life or ministry. Paul
himself never testifies to laying hands on anyone and having them slain in
the spirit, nor do any of the other writes of the New Testament, or Old
Testament for that matter. Paul never lost consciousness, his faculties
were very sharp, he was able to speak, he rationally answered the Lord.
John White used the following two verses in his book When The Spirit
Comes With Power to justify falling down under the Holy Spirits power:
Daniel 10:9-10 But the sound of his words came to my ears, and on hearing
his voice I went into a deep sleep with my face to the earth. Then a hand
gave me a touch, awaking me, and putting me on my knees and my hands.
Rev. 1:17 - And when I saw him, I went down on my face at his feet as one
dead. And he put his right hand on me, saying, Have no fear; I am the first
and the last and the Living one;
In the event in Daniel we encounter the writing prophet at the banks
of the Tigris. He alone sees the angelic being who has come to deliver to
Daniel a sweeping revelation concerning the prophetic economy of God. This
Old Testament account is totally devoid of any comparison of what takes
place in Pentecostalism. First, Daniel was a writing prophet and as such
the Lord manifested His Word to those prophets in various ways (dreams,
visions, divine appearances, etc.). Second, Daniels experience was
unexpected, whereas people fully expect to be slain in the spirit. The
purpose of the manifestation was to reveal a significant prophetic word to
Gods prophet. Next, while Daniel was overcome the angel touched him and
gave him strength. This is something we do not see in todays services. I
have seen multitudes fall, but none receiving supernatural strength. Note
also that Daniel fell face forward, almost one hundred percent of
charismatics who are slain fall backward, thus the reason for catchers (it
is very difficult to catch people who are falling forward). It is
interesting to note that in the Biblical accounts when people have fallen,
it is the sinners who fall backwards (Jh. 18:6).
There simply is no legitimate manner in which this verse can be used
to shore up a doctrine of being slain in the spirit.
The text in Revelation 1:17 also fails to meet the test when
examined. John the beloved was an apostle of the Lamb. There are no more
apostles today. Secondly, John saw the resurrected Lord which was the
reason he fell. The purpose for the Lord Jesus appearing to John was to
give him the final installment of the canon of Scripture. John was given a
revelation of immense importance. John never lost consciousness and also
fell face forward.
Comparison Chart
What produces(ed) the "falling"
Purpose of the "falling"
How did/do people "fall"
Being slain in the spirit according to charismatic Christians
human imposition of hands
the individuals who fall (1) fake it, (2) are pushed over, (3) are under a form of hypnotic suggestion, (4) demonic force weakens them physically
many diverse reasons, physical & emotional healing, giving of "gifts," anointing for service
99% fall backwards, there is the need for others to "catch" them when they fall. Women who fall have their legs covered with clothes due to immodest positions they fall in
Biblical accounts of people falling
supernatural appearance of angels, or God Himself
revelation of Gods will, usually set down in the canon of Scripture
All fell forward, no one "caught" them, no women fell in the Scriptures
The falling of people in todays services, especially in this latest revival
has no relationship whatsoever to the few Biblical accounts they attempt to
use to prove their beliefs. Every text they have tried to use is taken
completely out of its context and these leaders are guilty of wresting the
Scriptures in a vain attempt to validate their practice.
The leaders of the Holy Laughter movement prove nothing by the
Scriptures they use except that they do not know how to properly interpret
the Scriptures. They are attempting to compare apples-to-oranges and not
apples-to-apples. The simple fact of the matter is that they have no
contextual evidence to prove what is happening is Biblical. Try as they
might, the best they can do is to twist the Scriptures in an attempt to
make "a round peg fit into a square hole." The Biblical accounts and what
transpires today simply do not compare with one another.
Pastor John Arnott said the following (paraphrased) regarding people
laying on the floor (slain in the spirit) screaming out:
1. The Holy Spirit could be expelling demons from the person, so we say
"more Lord."
2. The Holy Spirit is bringing back past painful memories to heal them, and
the person is screaming out in agony, so we say "more Lord."
3. The Holy Spirit is blessing the individual so tremendously they are
screaming out under His power, we dont want to stop that do we?
4. The person is simply faking it to fit it.
5. The Holy Spirit is doing something prophetic in the persons life and we
do not want to interfere with that do we?
The only problem with Johns definitions was that he used absolutely
no Scriptures to validate any of his five points. In fact he contradicted
himself on the video when he said that upon asking people what was
happening to them while on the floor the people responded "we dont know,
but we know the Lord was doing something." If the slain individuals did not
know what was taking place how in the world does John Arnott?
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