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Sola Scriptura: 2 Timothy 2:2 does not prove apostolic succession ... Sola Scriptura: 2 Timothy 2:2 does not prove apostolic succession and the need for extra-Biblical oral tradition . This verse would likely refer to oral revelation from Paul's inspired mouth to Timothy, but it says nothing about apostolic succession. But lets not forget that Paul had written 13 other letters before 2 Timothy, which was his last. We must include Paul's writings in this command. ... who was to be bishop of Rome. And why didn't Peter make this statement? Finally, it is indeed odd for Roman Catholics to claim this verse teaches succession when the church at Ephesus, where the fabricated tradition says Timothy was bishop, is under the umbrella of the Greek Orthodox church. If I were Roman Catholic I would never use any verse that implied Timothy was specifically included in succession of any kind. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-refuted-succession-2-timothy-2-2.htm

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Jehovah's Witnesses a replica of the Roman Catholic church! Are Jehovah's Witnesses merely a replica of the Roman Catholic church? Click to View Click to View We speak the truth in Love... Click to View Jehovah's Witnesses share exactly these same qualities with the Roman Catholic Church Centralized World-wide church government from which all official doctrine comes. The Pope ... Both have official yearly meetings of the world leaders. The official doctrines that have changed dramatically over time. Both claim "new light" or progressive revelation to explain doctrinal changes. Both teach the organization is supreme over the Bible rather than the Bible being supreme over the organization. The average members are told by the organization that ... the Bible forever. Salvation is an individual matter that is fundamentally rooted in faith in Jesus Christ and does not dependent upon any earthly human origination. Click to View We speak the truth in Love... Click to View Go back to Main Jehovah's Witness Index Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/Jw-catholic.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based ... Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based upon tradition Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Proverbs 8:22 "The created wisdom woman" The first historical reference to wrongly interpreting Prov 8:22 as referring to Christ is 150 ... Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 102) Carlton, is always looking for ways to trash the need for the Bible and would love it if all Bibles on earth were destroyed and all we had left was the opinion of his Orthodox Church. He actually uses Prov 8:22 as an example of why sola Scriptura doesn't work. What it proves, is that tradition doesn't work, because most Trinitarians today, including the Roman Catholic church, do not apply Prov 8:22 to Christ any more. ... merely to Christ's humanity. But Carlton actually deceives you because the Nicene fathers did exactly what we would expect them to do, namely: reject that the passage refers to Christ at all! By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-fathers-mistakes.htm

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Commentary on what the early Christians believed about the Trinity used in which some of the Fathers of the Church saw references or foreshadowings of the Trinity. ... The revelation of the truth of the triune life of God was first made in the NT, where the earliest references to it are in the Pauline epistles. The doctrine is most easily seen in St. Paul's recurrent use of the terms God, Lord, and Spirit. (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1965, "Trinity, in the Bible", p306) The Apostolic Fathers were witnesses to the Biblical data and the traditional faith rather than theologians, but they ... contained in his pleas that Plato borrowed his conception of a third One from Moses, and that the pagan custom of erecting statues of Kore at springs was inspired by the Scriptural picture of the Spirit moving upon the waters. ... the Holy Spirit to the Son. But he was not an Arian subordinationist for he did not make the Son a creature and an adopted son of God. (The Triune God, Edmund Fortman, p59-61) By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-apostolic-fathers.htm

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Catholic Doctrinal flip flops: Marriage to non-Catholics was ... Roman Catholic Doctrinal evolution: Doctrinal flip flops Marriage to non-Catholics was invalid until 1818 AD Click to View Doctrinal flip flops Click to View More Catholic doctrinal Flip-Flops Marriage to non-Catholics was invalid until 1818 AD Marriage to non-Catholics was invalid until 1818 AD: "Under the old canon law, such a Marriage (between a baptized Protestant and an infidel or unbaptized Protestant) was invalid, because of the impediment of disparity of worship. Under the new canon law - i.e., since May 19, 1818 - this impediment has been abolished so far as non-Catholics are concerned, and such a marriage would be valid. This important change in the Church's law arose from the increasing number of unbaptized Protestants, and the consequent increase of invalid Marriages among them." (The Question Box, Conway) The Bible never changes, but Catholicism does. By Pat Donahue Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/catholic-flip-flops-marriage-to-non-catholics-invalid.htm

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Scripture contains a pattern that must to be followed. The Apostolic fathers viewed Scripture as containing a complete pattern that must to be followed. Go to: "Canon of the Bible" Home Page The Apostolic fathers viewed Scripture as containing a complete pattern ... Patternism is the act of following scripture so closely that you view it as a mold or form, that we are to duplicate morally and doctrinally in our lives. Roman Catholics and Othodox leaders are anti-patternist. They refuse to allow the Bible to govern their lives. They feel that man-made church tradition can change the Bible. They fell the Bible is not a pattern or form ... He denies this right to the heretics because the scriptures belong to the catholic Christians (ch. 15; 19). He charged Valentinus with tampering with the scriptures "by his different expositions and ... Pseudonymity in Biblical Literature and Its Implications for Canon Formation, p 467, 2002) By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scripture-pattern.htm

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A Review of the creed of The Evangelical Christian Church in ... doctrinal beliefs, or important matters pertaining to dress code, hair length, observations of days, and informal or formal worship etc., outside of the Articles of Faith without the restraints of ecclesiastical powers. The brotherhood and sisterhood of the CECC in Canada is a product of and a moving force in the great "Second Reformation." This has fanned the blaze of a spiritual fire of religious freedom that has burned brighter through the years. It held spiritual UNITY as its benchmark and goal of returning to a more apostolic format not unlike the first century church. Our brotherhood came ... We have no creed but Christ, and no book but the Bible. Our biblical standard allows our ministers to walk in the freedom of Christian unity and love by following the motto: "Unity in the ... in the Spirit of Christian unity. We believe that all Christians are one in the body of Christ, and enjoy fellowship together within all denominations. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/cr-Canadian-Evangelical-Christian-Churches-CECC.htm

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Great Bible Doctrines! The Interactive Bible: www.bible.ca The Six Trials of Jesus: 3 Jewish and 3 Roman The Jews found Jesus guilty 3 times. The Romans found Jesus Innocent 3 times. Read more Click to View Hermeneutics: The science of how we interpret the Bible. Why We Must Obey God's Silence: Acts 15 God's Road map on how to determine doctrine from the Bible 1. The doctrinal dispute in Acts 15 2. Examining the four argumentation methods 3. Generic and specific authority 4. A critical lesson from the US Constitution! 5. A critical lesson from the driver's handbook! 6. Gifts of benevolence from the church treasury: The Bible Pattern If you ... 5. What is the true Bible "Christmas" story of the birth of Jesus? (separating fact from Catholic myth) 6. Sunday is the day Christian's worship! 7. What will happen at the End Of The World? 8. ... of Joseph as a type of Christ List of 11 Exodus Route types of our salvation in Christ List of 25 similarities of Moses as a type of Apostle Paul Steven Rudd Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/indexdoctrine.htm

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Early and Latter Rain Theology Refuted ... e. your church uses ecclesiastical tradition that is not found in the Bible 5. Four types of inspiration from the Holy Spirit that complete with the Bible: a. Ecclesiastically Illuminated, Traditionalist, Creedalists: Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches maintain that the scriptures can only be interpreted in light of what the current church organization proclaims. The scriptures are not understandable by the common man in the pew and that the Holy Spirit communicates with the organization to correctly understand truth. Extra-Biblical, oral tradition doctrines are seen as equal to scripture itself. These churches are heavy users of creeds. In buffet style, they pick and choose which doctrines of the apostolic fathers ... demonstration of power. Paul called this deception. Steve Rudd click to vidw We Speak truth in LOVE "you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" John 8:40 tell us if we have misrepresented anything click to view Click to View WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/rapture-prediction-end-of-the-world-early-and-latter-rains-god-told-me-inspired-illuminated.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Early Christians were as smart as we are today ... ... This is a perfect example of how post apostolic man-made rules directly contradict the teaching of the New testament that says the Christian can eat anything he likes, common food or the food of kings, as long as it is accepted with prayer and thanksgiving. 1 Tim 4:1-4 actually calls ... leadership gets so many things wrong in the Bible... They were once monks, ate the commoners food and crippled their brains to understand the Bible. Perhaps this explains why Orthodox and Catholics teach so many things that are contradictory to scripture! Of course, the truth is, there was plenty of food, more than enough for basic nutrition. Sure we have incredible access to foods today, but notice the problem of obesity! Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders should be embarrassed to even put forth such a ridiculous argument. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-nutrition.htm

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Why are most Jehovah's Witnesses former Roman Catholics? Roman Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses are strikingly similar! FACT: The vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses were former Catholics. They had very little real change ... Roman Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses share exactly these same qualities: Centralized World-wide church government from which all official doctrine comes. The Pope ... of a Catholic/Jw: 'Someone who accepts Rome/Brooklyn as God's visible spirit-directed theocratic organization upon the earth. Both have official yearly meetings of the world leaders. The official doctrines that have changed dramatically over time. Both claim "new light" or progressive revelation to explain doctrinal changes. ... Jw's employ exactly the same hermeneutic but call it by a different name: "New Light" Both teach the organization is supreme over the Bible rather than the Bible ... matter that is fundamentally rooted in faith in Jesus Christ and does not dependent upon any earthly human origination. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-JW-converting.htm

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Sola Scriptura: "Paul quoted an early hymn from tradition in ... Inspiration means that the prophecy did not come by an act of human will. We are offended that anyone would suggest the authors of the Bible rely upon human records and not the Holy Spirit. "no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the ... Apostolic Fathers, but the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches do not use them in Liturgy. If they were consistent in their extra-biblical oral tradition, they would be forced to use all these hymns and poetry in their liturgy. They simply ignore it proving once again, they have more interest in writing themselves a "blank tradition cheque" rather than actually following revealed "traditions" of the early church. In this they show their true intentions by pointing out "oral tradition" then ignoring such traditions in liturgy. Such is shamefully deceptive. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-awake-o-sleeper-Eph-5-14.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 325 AD: Athanasius ... However, look at what he says about this tradition! It is confirmed by scripture. Then notice that "Apostolic tradition" is scripture itself, when he quotes Peter (1 Peter 4:1) and Paul (Titus 2:13). Notice ... fear of God and the Apostolical rule shall prevail; that so in the first place, the faith of the Church may be secure, as the Fathers defined it in the Council of Nicaea (Athanasius, History of the ... We do not question that Athanasius took the view that there was a tradition based upon succession of bishops in all the hundreds of churches. We simply point out that until the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches can point out a single place where Athanasius or any early writer tells us: "This is a doctrine not found in scripture, because the Bible is not ... is not supposed to ask us to use our own powers of interpretation to know truth, he is supposed to interpret it for us and just tell us his opinions! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-athanasius.htm

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Acapella Responsive Singing, No Instruments in first century ... Those bent on introducing instrumental music into the church really don't care about Bible authority at all and their arguments are deceptive games. They are simply on the wrong side of truth. "He who has ears, let him hear". 4. The first time instruments were brought into church worship was in 670 AD in Rome and it was the direct cause of the great split of 1054 AD between the Roman Catholic church and the Orthodox. a. Instrumental music was one of the four main causes of the great schism: ... Werner adds, "The primitive Christian community held the same view, as we know from apostolic and post-apostolic literature: instrumental music was thought unfit for religious services. ... What one observes there are two separate phenomena: a ... (the branch) as their messiah. It's time to come home! Click here to find a church near you. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go to: Main Ancient Synagogue Start Page Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Acapella-responsive-singing-non-instrumental-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-worship-prototype-ancient-Synagogue-ritual-liturgy-worship.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 200 AD: Hippolytus Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to ... is a powerful contradiction and refutation to the modern Roman Catholic and Orthodox view of tradition. Although Hippolytus was fully aware that the gospel was first preached 100% orally through the apostles and prophets even before the first book of the New Testament was written, in 200 AD, he recognized that scripture was the only source of authority. This also proves that although Hippolytus may also have recognized the witness of church tradition, he saw that tradition was ultimately derived ... and vainly pretend the authority of the apostles" (Cyprian, Epistle 74, 6) This is very bad news for the Roman Catholics who claim unbroken apostolic authority back to the first century! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-hippolytus.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 370 AD: Basil Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to ... Every Roman Catholic and Orthodox priest should be required to hand scribe this text by Basil on parchment, rolled up and placed in a little clear bottle and hung around their neck! For the Roman Catholics who refuse to believe that such words could fall from the lips of a Catholic bishop, the Pope describes Basil as, "one of the most distinguished Doctors of the Church". One side of the debate cried, "my tradition is right". The other side replied, "No, our tradition is right". But Basis says ... of the things, admit of separation" (Basil, On The Spirit, ch 7, 16) Click to View Once again, we see Basil using scripture, not some distinct oral tradition for the foundation of his views. by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-basil.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 450 AD: Theodoret Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for ... (Athanasius, de Synodis, Part 1, 6), the church viewed the every phrase of the Nicene creed as being based directly upon scripture, not some unwritten oral tradition. So when Theodoret about 125 years later that he follows the "laws and rules of the apostles" AND "the faith at Nicea" it surely doesn't provide the proof Catholic and Orthodox defenders are looking for. Yes Theodoret has a two fold authority: 1. the Bible and 2. the Nicene creed. But the creed is viewed by Theodoret as a condensed version of the Bible. ... while men's allegiance increased. Creed are wrong because they complete with the authority of the Bible. Today Roman Catholics and Orthodox common folk, don't even both with the Bible, they just obey the creeds. by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-theodoret.htm

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Stunning quotations from: The New Catholic Catechism Roman Catholic Faith Examined! Click to View Introduction by John Paul II Stunning quotations from... The New Catholic Catechism 1992 French version (English translation completed in ... The Catechism of the Catholic Church, lastly, is offered to every individual ... who wants to know what the Catholic Church believes. Tradition equal with scripture 80 Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together and communicate one ... Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honoured with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence. bible interpretation the sole right of pope and bishops 100 The task of ... It was to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, that we believe that our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant, in order to establish on earth the ... but also of the Mother of God, the angels and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new "economy" of images. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-catechism-1994.htm

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Official creed of the Evangelical church Our basis for fellowship is a biblical confession of the lordship of Jesus Christ, and the absence of a scandalous lifestyle. This statement of faith does represent the doctrinal understanding of the leadership of Evangelical , and it is our ... And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord, and Giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified; who spoke by the Prophets. And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church; acknowledge ... E. An Evangelical Statement (Adapted from the National Association of Evangelicals) We believe the Bible to be the only inerrant Word of God. It is our only ultimate and infallible authority for faith and practice. We believe that there is one ... - Amendments This constitution may be amended at any time through unanimous consent of the Elders, after due consultation with the Electors of the church by mail and/or at the monthly men's meeting. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-evangelical.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 405 AD: John Chrysostom Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to ... But he says something far more profound that modern Roman Catholic and Orthodox leaders cringe at: Chrysostom, interprets Paul's statement as saying that "the scriptures were given IN PLACE OF Paul". This is exactly what we are saying! We say that from ... Hence it is manifest, that they did not deliver all things by Epistle, but many things also unwritten, and in like manner both the one and the other are worthy of credit. Therefore let us think the tradition of the Church also worthy of credit. It ... things like this. Further, neither the Orthdox or Catholic churches even do this today, which further proves that such "unwritten tradition" really involves what we call "expedient tradition". by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-chrysostom.htm

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A Short History of the Watchtower Organization ... Some local congregations broke away, forming such Russellite splinter groups as the Chicago Bible Students, the Dawn Bible Students, and the Laymen's Home Missionary Movement, all of which continue to this day. But most Bible Students remained ... The literature consisted primarily of Rutherford's unremitting series of attacks against government, against Prohibition, against "big business," and against the Roman Catholic Church. He also forged a huge radio network and took to the air waves, exploiting ... In fact, referring to that prophetic failure he later admitted, "I made an ass of myself." (The Watchtower, October 1, 1984, p. 24) Vice President Nathan Homer Knorr inherited the presidency upon Rutherford's death in 1942 but left doctrinal ... The aim was to demonstrate that the leadership derived authority from an apostolic source, rather than from Pennsylvania corporate law. This new Governing Body was displayed as further evidence of the sect's being the one true church, but in ... ... https://www.bible.ca/jw-history.htm

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The Lord's Supper ... C. Grape Juice: fermented or unfermented? 1. The juice is never referred to as wine (oinos) but fruit of the vine, or grape juice. Jesus did not use leavened bread or leavened grape juice (wine), nor should we. 2. The word wine [oinos] in the Bible is generic which is shed and is used in ... Therefore under all occasions plain grape juice is the best choice. D. The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches are divided over exactly whose "apostolic church tradition" is correct: 1. "In the 11th century the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches fought over the issue of whether the bread was leavened or unleavened: "In regard to the bread of the Eucharist the Latins held that it should be unleavened, the Greeks ... Troas, their meeting was not, especially, to hear Paul, but to break bread, as was their usual custom. Thus, in following this, and similar examples, the Lord's people (today) partake of the Lord's Supper each first day of the week. John Hurt Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/ntx-communion.htm

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Development from the trinity as taught in the Bible and the trinity ... Therefore, we do not defend the Nicene creed or the Athanasius creed, but are content to simply prove the deity of the uncreated Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. But for Jw's the rejection of Catholic doctrinal development, while teaching the identical ... The necessity to formulate the doctrine was thrust upon the Church by forces from without, and it was, in particular, its faith in the deity of Christ, and the necessity to defend it, that first compelled the Church to face the duty of formulating a full doctrine of the Trinity for its rule of faith." (New Bible Dictionary, J. D. Douglas & F. F. Bruce, Trinity, p 1298) In the immediate post New Testament period of the Apostolic Fathers no attempt was made to work out ... Using their own logic, they must conclude that the Lord's Supper and the second coming were borrowed from the Pagans! Click to View Also see outline on: Progressive revelation between the Old and New Testaments. By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-development.htm

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The office of Elders, pastors and bishops ... A. Some believers go beyond the organization God provided for in the New Testament by making it more complex than it is. This is seen in the organization of the Roman Catholics and many protestant churches. B. Some believers ... Do not keep moving from house to house." Luke 10:7 "So also the Lord directed those who proclaim the gospel to get their living from the gospel." 1 Corinthians 9:14 "Or do only Barnabas and I not have a right to refrain from ... C. The Baptist church, for example, admits in their official creed book (The Hiscox Standard Baptist Manual), that new offices not found in scripture have been added long after the Bible was written: "CHURCH OFFICERS: In the New Testament we find that in apostolic times, and for many years after, pastors ... D. Churches in the Bible began with no elders but in time elders were appointed Churches can scripturally exist either with or without elders Further study: Click to View John Paul II Catholic, Bishop of Rome, Pope Click to View ... ... https://www.bible.ca/ntx-elders-pastors-bishops.htm

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Sola Scriptura: The rock of the wilderness that followed them ... False arguments that Catholics and Orthodox use to prove oral extra-scriptural church tradition are refuted. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View "The rock of the ... This is our view and is supported by the context and the universal witness of the Apostolic Fathers. Some of the Jewish traditions themselves take a symbolic view of the rock that followed them, not literal. Notice the variation in the verbal ... This certainly is possible, but gives no help to Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders of oral tradition because the oral tradition itself in this case was filled with fable and contradictions. A. Biblical references: Twice God made water come from the ... would not know how to separate truth from fable in the traditions. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-christ-rock-followed-1-cor-10-4.htm

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Seventh-day Adventist view Ellen G. White as an inspired prophet Younger, newer, recently converted, Seventh-day Adventists often notify us by email saying that we, at the Interactive Bible Website (www.bible.ca) have misrepresented the official position of ... They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Support is found in these Bible passages: Joel 2:28,29: Acts 2:14-21: Hebrews 1:1-3: ... "At this time (20th century) the special endowment of the divine grace and power is not less needful to the church than in the apostolic day. Through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, the scenes of the ... Follett was quoting from official Glacier View document: "The Relation of Ellen White's Writings in Doctrinal Studies" SDA BOOK: "Elder I. H. Evans, the General Conference representative at the ... TESTIMONY FOR THE CHURCH Vol 3 p. 257 "A week after her first happy vision Ellen received a second vision in which God called her formally to work for Him as a prophet." MOVING OUT Unit 4 p. 115 ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-WhiteInspire.htm

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Scholars on the Personality of the Holy Spirit ... In them the Apostles are instructed not only as to the personality of the Spirit, but as to His office towards the church. (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, p 47-49) "Yet, as compared with their thought about the Logos, the Apologists appear to have been extremely vague as to the ... Spirit'; and there is no escaping the personal implications contained in his pleas that Plato borrowed his conception of a third One from Moses, and that the pagan custom of erecting statues of Kore at springs was inspired by the Scriptural picture of the Spirit moving upon the waters. ... the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear' (Acts ii. 32, 33). It is not too much to say that the apostolic Church was built upon faith in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. (New Bible Dictionary, J. D. Douglas & F. F. Bruce, Trinity, p 1298) Compiled by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-quotes-personality-of-holy-spirit.htm

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Bible Prophecy Fulfilled ... Paul and Barnabas used "approved apostolic example" by describing how they have saved thousands of Gentiles without circumcision and the Holy Spirit continued to perform miracles to confirm their work was approved. c. James used "direct command" ... Until you understand the principle of obeying the silence of God as a core principle of Bible authority. The Jews has broken God's silence by ordering Gentile circumcision and the Holy Spirit RESTORED God's silence by telling us what we need to ... Instrumental music was banned in all first century Jewish synagogues and the Orthodox church has practiced acappella worship without instruments from Pentecost down to the present. The Roman Catholic church introduced instrumental music in AD 790 in one ... these things were so. Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men." (Acts 17:11-12) By Steve Rudd 2020: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/prophecy/welcome.htm

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Doctrinal Flip Flops of Jehovah's Witnesses! Doctrinal Flip Flops of Jehovah's Witnesses! Wow! "I didn't know the organization once taught that to new converts like me!!!" Click to View New Convert: If the "organization" rigidly taught these to new converts 25 years ago as "God's unchanging truth," but reject them today as apostate, how can you trust what they rigidly teach ... Advice on everyday living Beware of "organization." It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others' ... Jehovah lives in Pleiades star cluster galaxy? Star Trek anyone??? Spelling of "Jehovah" originated with Catholic monk in 13th century??? No actual evidence "YHWH" ... (Catholic Encyclopedia, X, 195) More doctrine Jehovah's Witnesses got from the Roman Catholics. ... the unbelieving ... and murderers ... and idolaters, and all ... (THE WATCHTOWER, April 15, 1903, pg. 120). Click to View Pick another/Go to top . . Go back to Main Jehovah's Witness Index Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/Jw-changes.htm

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The Madaba map (mosaic floor) 542 AD St. George's Orthodox church ... So, like their modern Muslim archeological counterparts who excavate the Temple mount with a bull dozer and grind 2000 year old artifacts into gravel for the roads, they defaced the mosaic where it shows Islam to be an apostate religion. (i.e. ... We would expect it to be directly above Praesidium, Thamara, Moa and above and to the left of "The desert where the Serpent of brass saved the Israelites". Click to View There is one reference in the Bible to the "Wilderness of Kadesh" and this ... Click to View It is truly sad that this portion of the Madaba map is missing that shows Mt. Sinai and the shape of the Red Sea. We must keep in mind that in 545 AD, the prevailing view of the Western/Latin church (Rome/Roman Catholic) was that Mt. Sinai was ... Map of Madaba, Kampen 1992, 24.48) Here is a detailed study of the Samaritans and why they chose Mt. Gerizim as "their Jerusalem". By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-madaba-map.htm

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Official creed of the Orthodox church ... God made it all. "By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God..." (Hebrews 11:3). Orthodox Christians do not believe the Bible to be a science textbook on creation, as some mistakenly maintain, but rather to be God's ... Abroad appointed its representative to the Committee for the Continuation of the World Conference on Faith and Order: "Preserving the Faith is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Synod of Bishops confesses that the Church has never been divided. ... Q. Which is the most notable of the Eastern Churches? A. The Orthodox Church. Page 1 Q. Which are the most notable of the Western Churches? A. The Papal or Roman Catholic, the Anglican, and the Protestant. Q. Why is the Orthodox Church so ... Q. What conditions cause a member to be cut off from the Church Militant, and what is he called then? A. 1. When a member falls into apostasy or leaves the Christian religion, then he is called an apostate. 2. When a member falls into heresy, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-Orthodox.htm

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Earliest evidence for the New Testament canon ... Although there were exceptions to the ordering of the books, they were often very similar. 5. Number Of Writings within each category: a. 4 gospels, Paul's letters etc., Catholic ... came into general circulation in the Church." (Introduction To The New Testament, Theodor Zahn, 1909 p 481) 7. The Collection Was Called "New Testament" a. The Earliest Christians described their writings as "the New Testament". Since the expression "the New Testament" is used many times within the Bible itself, this proves that the apostolic writings were clearly intended to be organized into a single collection. 8. Marcion's ... III. Roman Catholic and Orthodox confuse the issue: 1. False claims by Catholic and Orthodox church leaders like James Bernstein: "The second big surprise came when I realized that the ... were still being used in churches throughout the world from 100 AD. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-earliest-evidence.htm

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Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library ... Boobyer has the nerve to say that 2 Peter 1:4 did not originate in the mind of God via inspiration, but was paganism creeping into the scriptures! Boobyer is a modernist Bible-trasher! There are many plain indications that Boobyer rejects the ... Section 1: Aloys Grillmeier's valuable book entitled Christ in Christian Tradition (1965) has an epilogue headed " Chalcedon--End or Beginning? " Hem this learned Roman Catholic scholar reminds us that, react as we will to the Christological disputations which agitated the church from the Council of Nicaea to that of Chalcedon, the Fathers certainly " intended to preserve the Christ of the Gospels and the Apostolic Age for the faith of posterity ". Then, however, Grillmeier goes on to mention ... B.D., D. Theol., by Visiting Professor Of Theology In The University College Of Rhodesia) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Rylands.htm

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Sabbath and Sunday in Early Christianity: Dr. David W. T. Brattston week until the time of the Roman emperor Constantine in the early fourth century AD, when he changed it from Saturday to win over non-Christian sun worshippers. Consulting early Christian practices and customs is a good idea because they record how Christians lived their faith when the unwritten teachings and Bible interpretations of Christ and the ... Although we may doubt that this Letter is inspired or scripture or even apostolic, it does witness to an early date for Christians observing Sunday and describing it as "the Lord's Day". From ... Tertullian probably wrote On Idolatry in his earlier, "catholic" period, when he was a member of the mainline or "Great Church", between AD 198 and the 220s. In Chapter 14, after noting of Christians that "by us, to whom Sabbaths are strange" and ... Lunenburg, Nova Scotia An earlier version of this booklet was published in the Spring 2012 issue (vol. 126 no. 1) of The Churchman, Watford, England. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday-sabbath-and-sunday-in-early-christianity-before-400AD-DavidW.T.Brattston.htm

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Silence of Scripture and Bible authority ... Moriah or "Jehovah-Jireh" Gen 22:1,14; 2 Chron 3:1, in Jerusalem, of King Melchizedek), as the holy place of worship for the Jews. The Samaritans were remnants of apostate Jews who were exiled to Assyria in 722 BC. A temple had ... Although the first century church had no organization larger than the local church, institutionalists today want to use "sponsoring churches" and "missionary societies" to do the word of evangelism. In the Bible, (Phil. ... Eph. 5:19 Historically the early Christians did not use instrumental music from the time of the apostles until 670 AD when organs were first introduced sparingly and with great opposition. The Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches split in 1033 AD in part over instrumental music. The Orthodox church, even today, ... instruments in the NT, it must be OK." But notice this is EXACTLY the same argument the Jewish Christians were using in Acts 15 to force circumcision for salvation! By Steve Rudd Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/d-authority-silence-traffic-signs.htm

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Neither the Pope or Constantine changed the Sabbath from Saturday ... ... workshops be closed." (Constantine, March 7, 321. Codex Justinianus lib. 3, tit. 12, 3; trans. in Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3, p. 380, note 1) Answer: Constantine did not change the Sabbath to Sunday, he merely created the first "Sunday closure law" because Christians had been worshipping on the first day of the week since apostolic times. Sabbatarians can't get their story straight! Who changed the Sabbath? ... Click to View Guess #1: the Pope introduced Sunday worship. Click to View The Roman Catholic Pope DID NOT change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as Sabbath keepers falsely teach. Yes Catholics do claim they changed the Sabbath, but they also claim that Peter was the first ... Sunday worship. In addition to Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:1-2, click here for irrefutable historical proof! Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE "you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/7-pope-changed.htm

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THE PIRATES OF PRIVILEGE: Walter Rea Rocks the Seventh-day Adventist ... Click to View "Sometimes Truth makes Love hurt" Click to View "You are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA Click to View THE PIRATES OF PRIVILEGE by Walter Rea December, ... It is an incredible story, even for a people who had just been caught with its prophet lying about her gifts and her material.3 It ranks in size with the Catholic Church financial scandal and perhaps would have received greater attention if both stories ... With this practical step a man having once tried the ministry and finding it repugnant, or for various reasons wishing to switch, would not end up licking stamps in the Bible House or driving the Conference moving van during the summer. He could ... The bottom line, of course, is the role of Ellen White in doctrinal matters. 16 It was clear from the meeting that there was to be no honest inquiry into Adventist belief or practice. It was clear that Ford, for all his degrees, including two ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-pirates-of-privilege.htm

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History proves Christians always met on 1st Day and not the Sabbath ... The Record of History History proves Christians always met on 1st Day and not the Sabbath, right back to the apostolic age. (33 A.D.) New book on Sabbath vs. 1st day worship history: ... Glait and Fischer, who had been taught the false doctrine of the Catholic and Lutheran churches, that Sunday is the Sabbath, were astonished to read in the Bible that the Sabbath was ... started keeping the Sabbath, introduced to them by Joseph Bates (a member of the Christian Connextion Church which was was part of the Christian Church, Stone/Campbell movement, who convinced their Methodist minister that the Bible teaches us to keep the Sabbath. ... Click to View Guess #1: the Pope introduced Sunday worship. Click to View The Roman Catholic Pope DID NOT change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as Sabbath keepers falsely teach. ... learn MUCH faster! Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE "you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/7-history-sabbath.htm

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Samuele Bacchiocchi, Seventh-day Adventist Historian Refuted "Sundaykeeping was introduced into the Christian Church rather innocently, and its first advocates never dreamed that it would take the place of the seventh-day Sabbath of God. Sundaykeeping had its origin in Rome during the reign of the Emperor ... Sunday worship on Christians in 135 AD and not the Pope or Constantine! Click to View Guess #1: the Pope introduced Sunday worship. Click to View The Roman Catholic Pope DID NOT change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as Sabbath keepers falsely teach. ... Click to View Constantine (325 AD) DID NOT change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as Sabbath keepers falsely teach. Christians never kept the Sabbath from the apostolic age (33 AD) through the time of Constantine (325AD). Constantine merely ... Magn. 9; Clement of Alexandria, Str. 7.12.76)." (Encyclopedia of early Christianity) Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE "you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/7-Bacchiocchi.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 360 AD: Cyril of Jerusalem Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism ... Cyril sure sounds like one of us "good 'ol Bible thumping Protestants"! He sure doesn't sound very "Catholic or Orthodox". Although he knew of creeds and canons, was himself a Bishop of authority, he demanded, "proof from the Scriptures" and ... "But in learning the Faith and in professing it, acquire and keep that only, which is now delivered to thee by the Church, and which has been built up strongly out of all the Scriptures. ... It must be most unsettling for Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders to learn that Cyril identifies Tradition as "the scripture". The Nicene creed certainly cannot be used by these ... unsettling for Catholic and Orthodox apologists who search desperately for some "extra-Biblical oral tradition of the apostles". by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-cyril.htm

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Origin of Jewish/Christian holy days: Old Testament, Christmas ... ... None of these "Christian" holy days are found in Bible but all are of human origin. 1. Immovable: a. EPIPHANY: Jan 6. -Little Christmas- day Jesus revealed to wise ... ASCENSION DAY: Thursday, 40 days after Easter: Lord's ascension g. WHITSUNDAY or PENTECOST: Sunday, 50 days after Easter: birthday of church h. TRINITY SUNDAY: Sunday after Pentecost: dedicated to the "Trinity7 Click to View III. Origin of Christmas: A. The word "Christmas" comes from "Christ + Mass" 1. from the Catholic "mass" 2. term first used in 1038 AD B. Date of Christ's birthday is unknown: best guess is spring of 6BC 1. year: between 4-7BC a. Dionysius, a Roman monk, invented a ... There is no historical evidence that our Lord's birthday was celebrated during the apostolic or postapostolic times. The uncertainty that existed at the beginning of ... Jackson, Samuel Macualey, Editor-in-Chief. The New Schaff -Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge. Steve Rudd Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/t-holy-days-origin-christmas-easter-halloween.htm

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Lohse, Bernard: A Short History of Christian Doctrine ... At the same time, however, there are in the New Testament the rudiments of a concept of God that was susceptible of further development and clarification, along doctrinal lines. ... Speaking first of the person of Jesus Christ ... In other ... Doctrine, Bernard Lohse, 1966, p37-39) When in the year 324 Constantine the Great, after his victory over Licinius, had become ruler also of the eastern part of the Roman Empire, lie found the Eastern church embroiled in bitter controversy. ... of nothing, or who assert that the Son of God is of a different hypostasis or substance, or is created, or is subject to alteration or change these the Catholic Church anathematizes." Most of the bishops who were present at the council signed this creed. ... which they were excommunicated." (A Short History of Christian Doctrine, Bernard Lohse, 1966, p51-53) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Lohse.htm

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Haruskah Anda Percaya Kepada Watchtower??? ... Teks aslinya "It is certain, however, that from the apostolic times they paid worship to Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, addressed to them their prayers, and included them in ... Lengkapnya, anda dapat lihat di "Encyclopaedia of Anti-Trinitarian Deceptive quoting!" (http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions.htm). "Bukan Allah yang Suka Pada Kekacauan" Pada halaman 4-5, WT mengatakan Tetapi, dengan ... "It must be remembered that the OT was written before the revelation of the doctrine of the Trinity was clearly given." ... "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till ... Menginggung kata Protestan, kita ingat kata Katolik. WT mengambil banyak kutipan dari sumber Katolik, yaitu New Catholic Encyclopedia, Catholic Encyclopedia dan A Catholic ... It was therefore with dismay that he discovered that the eastern churches were divided by a much more widespread dispute, the doctrinal controversy between Alexander, bishop ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-indonesian-watchtower-booklet-haruskah-anda-percaya.htm

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The Error of the Catholic Nicene Trinity ... But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective; among the 2d-century Apologists, little ... century, it did not find a place formally in the theology of the Church till the 4th century. (New Bible Dictionary, J. D. Douglas & F. F. Bruce, Trinity, p 1298) TRINITARIAN PROBLEM AS POSED TODAY This article may now return to the contemporary scene in an attempt to pinpoint problem and perspective. The Pastoral Question. There are few teachers of Trinitarian theology in Roman Catholic seminaries who have not been badgered at one time or another by the question, "But how does one preach the Trinity?" ... important to avoid reading the Trinity into places where it does not appear. An example is 1 Peter 1.1-2 (Oxford Companion to the Bible, Bruce M. Metzger and Michael D. Coogan, Trinity, p 782) Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-catholic-nicene.htm

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What Early Christians believed about USING INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC ... In this respect the Jewish tradition was not continued. In the earlier Jewish temple service many instruments mentioned in-the Bible had been used. But instrumental music had been thoroughly discredited in the meantime by the lascivious Greek ... The absence of instrumental music from the church for some centuries after the apostles and the sentiment regarding it which pervades the writing, the fathers are unaccountable, if in the apostolic church such music was used" (Schaff-Herzog, ... They were dropped out with such emphasis that they were not taken up till the middle of the Dark Ages, and came in as part of the order of the Roman Catholic Church. It seems there cannot be doubt but that the use of instrumental music in connection with the ... that there were ten thousand congregations an not over fifty had used an instrument in worship." (Earl West, Search for the Ancient Order, Vol. 2, pp. 80, 81) By Steven Rudd Go Back to last menu Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/H-music.htm

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Official creed of The United Church of Canada We further maintain our allegiance to the evangelical doctrines of the Reformation, as set forth in common in the doctrinal standards adopted by the Presbyterian Church in Canada, by the Congregational Union of Ontario and Quebec, and by ... We acknowledge one holy Catholic Church, the innumerable company of saints of every age and nation, who being united by the Holy Spirit to Christ their Head are one body in Him and have communion with their Lord and with one another. ... We confidently believe that by His power and grace all His enemies shall finally be overcome, and the kingdoms of this world be made the Kingdom of our God and of His Christ. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA Click to View Bill Phipps Head of church denies Resurrection of ... The separation of Church and State in Canada means clergy are not required to marry couples when it would be contrary to the faith community's religious beliefs. One example is the refusal of the Roman Catholic Church to marry someone ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-united-Can.htm

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Ellen G. White found guilty of plagiarism (copying) ... In Revelation 17 Babylon is represented as a woman-a figure which is used in the Bible as the symbol of a church, a virtuous women representing a pure church, a vile woman an apostate church. In the Bible the sacred and enduring character of the relation that exists between Christ and His church is ... But Christians of past generations observed the Sunday, supposing that in so doing they were keeping the Bible Sabbath; and there are now true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion, who honestly believe that Sunday is the Sabbath of divine appointment. [449] The most fearful threatening ever addressed to mortals is contained in the third angel's message. ... instead of the requirements of God, will worship the beast and receive his mark. Click to View Order Walter Rea's book: "The White Lie" Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE "you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/7-WL-exhibits-Great-Contro.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Mark 2:7 Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 The unbelieving Jews said this false statement of fact, not Jesus. The Bible also records the lie of the devil in Gen 2 that Eve would "surely not die". The Jews ... This is the identical approach that the Roman Catholics take to prove that the "church organization" can forgive personal sin independent of the mind of God. Such a view teaches a power of the "clergy over the pew-dwellers" regarding individual salvation, the exclusive right to marry, grant communion, and baptize. Click here to see Catholic position Jewish priests already had the power to grant ... Matt. 26:28; Jer. 31:31-34). Proclaiming the forgiveness of sins was the prominent feature of the apostolic preaching in the Book of Acts. Jesus was giving the apostles (and by extension, the ... that the Church's power over sin is also exercised in baptism and the preaching of the redemptive word." (Jerome Biblical Commentary, Catholic, John 20:21) Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-mark2-7.htm

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Global statistics for all religions: 2001 AD ... Ukrainian Orthodox 3,100 27,121,000 10 9 22 ROMAN CATHOLIC subgroups (sects/denominations) (Table 1-5) 2 Name 3 Congregations 1995 6 Affiliated 1995 11 Denominations 2000 13 countries ROMAN CATHOLIC 328,000 994,154000 242 235 Armenian ... Salvationist (Salvation Army) 14,100 2,378,000 86 84 United church (union of bodies of different traditions) 50,300 22,268,000 54 45 Waldensian 200 41,000 2 2 community church or union congregation 50 20,000 24 18 209 INDEPENDENT Subgroups ... Pacific Apostolic 20 5,000 1 1 Arab Apostolic 30 4000 5 2 Afro-Caribbean 100 16,000 2 2 White-led 1,000 199,000 21 4 New Apostolic, Catholic Apostolic (Invingite),Old Apostolic 23,700 8,293,000 208 149 African independent charismatic 12,400 1,935,000 609 ... 5,000 3 3 Unitarian, Universalist, Free Christian, Liberal Christian 1,700 378,000 29 26 World Totals 3,167,000 1,769,920,000 33,909 238 (David A. Barrett, World Christian Encyclopedia, 2001, p 16-18) Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/global-religion-statistics-world-christian-encyclopedia.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Genesis 19:24 Genesis 19:24. Although the unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that this was Jesus talking to Abraham, such is a guess and not specifically known by scripture. The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that this was Jesus talking ... of heaven." (Genesis 19:24) But even if these Unitarians could find similar examples of Genesis 19:24 in the Bible, it still would not make any difference. This is because the context irrefutably proves beyond question that Yahweh (or Jehovah if you adopt the spelling of that famous 13th century Roman Catholic monk.) was walking around on the earth with two angels. D. Now that we have dismissed the only arguments ... rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh [in spirit form in heaven] out of heaven. E. Note to Jehovah's Witnesses: Click here to find a new church that doesn't teach false doctrine like they do at the Kingdom Hall. By Steve Rudd contact the author Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-genesis19-24.htm

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