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201: Sabbath and Sunday in Early Christianity: Dr. David W. T. Brattston
... Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. Justin was a Christian teacher at Rome who was martyred for the Faith around AD 165. Present-day Sabbatarians deny that "the Lord's day" in Revelation 1.10 indicates Sunday observance, and allege that it was the common term only for the time preceding the Second Coming. However, in The Letter of the Apostles 17, Jesus Himself is depicted as calling the eighth day "the Lord's day". Originating in Asia Minor or Egypt in the middle of the second century, this Letter purports to be the revelation of Christ to the apostles. Although we may doubt that this Letter is inspired or scripture or even apostolic, it does witness to an early date for Christians observing Sunday and describing it as "the Lord's Day". From the eastern Mediterranean, sometime between AD ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday-sabbath-and-sunday-in-early-christianity-before-400AD-DavidW.T.Brattston.htm
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202: bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-ein-qedeis-the-Biblical ...
... Finally, after five days of hard work, a dragoman was secured; one who had escorted Drs. H. M. Field and George E. Post, and more recently the famous specialists who a few years ago discovered the Syriac manuscript in the Monastery of St. Catharine at Mt. Sinai, Mrs. Lewis and her sister, Mrs. Gibson, of Cambridge, England. Our dragoman's name was Hanna Abu Saab, which, being interpreted, means "John the Father of Difficulty." This looked a little ominous. But again and again in our bargaining with him we stipulated that, no matter what obstacles might arise, or what detours might be necessary to reach our goal, we must at all hazards see `Ein Kadis. Hanna had never been there before, and for our sakes it was fortunate that he had not, for very probably he would never have undertaken such a task a second time. I tried to get him to make a covenant of blood with us to the effect that he would show us Kadesh, but he refused. The contract between us, however, was formally drawn up and ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-ein-qedeis-the-biblical-world-george-l-robinson-1901ad.htm
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203: How to survive a church service with [your] small children!
... Since we had both been Christians for several years, Sunday had always been special; but our marriage made us seem to look forward to it even more. Sunday was not only the Lord's day and afforded time for worship and fellowship with the saints in the assemblies, but also was used as a convenient time to have other Christians into our apartment and to accept invitations into the homes of others. There was time to visit the sick or attend an occasional singing at another congregation. About six months after we began to attend Belview Heights, I was asked to drive about forty miles to the south of Birmingham to preach for a small congregation called Pea Ridge. Sunday continued to be very special. Even though we were spending over two hours in travel we enjoyed the journey, worshipping with those Saint's, spending the afternoon in their homes, and my first opportunity to preach regularly made it all a grand experience. The following summer we moved to Pea Ridge. I taught school and worked ... ...
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204: How to survive a church service with [your] small children!
... Since we had both been Christians for several years, Sunday had always been special; but our marriage made us seem to look forward to it even more. Sunday was not only the Lord's day and afforded time for worship and fellowship with the saints in the assemblies, but also was used as a convenient time to have other Christians into our apartment and to accept invitations into the homes of others. There was time to visit the sick or attend an occasional singing at another congregation. About six months after we began to attend Belview Heights, I was asked to drive about forty miles to the south of Birmingham to preach for a small congregation called Pea Ridge. Sunday continued to be very special. Even though we were spending over two hours in travel we enjoyed the journey, worshipping with those Saint's, spending the afternoon in their homes, and my first opportunity to preach regularly made it all a grand experience. The following summer we moved to Pea Ridge. I taught school and worked ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/marriage/f-surviving-church-service-with-small-kids.htm
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205: The Apostolic Fathers believed in expedient, optional tradition
The time of the Sunday worship service can become such a widely practiced standard that when someone visiting from out of town asks what time is you worship service is, you can merely reply: "the scriptural time", and they know exactly when to show up. Of course it is understood that there is no "scriptural time", but because the time is so widely practiced as a "church tradition" it almost appears to be a binding apostolic tradition nowhere recorded in scripture. This is the mistake the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches make when they look at their current practices. They just assume that because there was a pattern of tradition in the church around 200 AD, that it was a binding and essential apostolic tradition. This is a grave error because the witness of history is such that each region had their own distinct set of the traditions, just as we see in the churches today! These kinds of optional expedients were practiced by Christ, the apostles, the Fathers and every church today. ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-3-expedient.htm
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206: Dinosaur Art From Ancient Tombs In Peru: evidence that dinosaurs ...
... The biggest spines found were about 9 inches long, shaped a little like a shark's dorsal fin. The smallest, at tail-tip, were about 3 inches high." (THE OREGONIAN, reporter Ellen Morris Bishop, 1/14/1993) (click on photo for high resolution) Click to View Click to View Art From Ancient Tombs In Peru (Probably Nasca culture) by Don R. Patton I have made two trips to Peru investigating these carved Ica stones. The first trip was made in the spring 1997 with Dr. Dennis Swift of Portland, Oregon and geologist, David McQueen, formerly at ICR. As a result of the trip, McQueen and I were able to present a paper on the rapid formation of the stratigraphy of coastal Peru at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America in Salt Lake in the fall of '97. I returned from the latest trip with Dr. Dennis Swift, two weeks ago. On both trips we spent a considerable amount of time with Dr. Javier Cabrera whose imposing 300 year old Spanish home on the town square of Ica provides museum space ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-art.htm
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207: History proves the earliest Christians worshipped on the first ...
TRUTH in 110 AD: "no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day" (IGNATIUS Epistle to the Magnesians, chp 9. Ante-Nicene Fathers , vol. 1, pg. 62-63.) LIE: That history shows that Christians began keeping the Sabbath and gradually started meeting on Sundays at about the time of Constantine in 325 AD. TRUTH in 325 AD: The truth is that before Constantine, Christians always met on SUNDAY and never met on Saturday as the Sabbath! Click here for More historical ... This theological confusion/error actually reinforces Sabbatarians false doctrine, that the Sabbath was not nailed to the cross as Col 2:14-16 says. Conclusion Christians originally kept the Sabbath, but due to the influence of the devil, Christians went into universal apostasy for over 1600 years until, of course the arrival of Ellen G. White, the Adventist prophet, who saw, contrary to what the Bible says in Col 2:16, that the Sabbath law was not nailed to the cross. Only in the 19th century ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/7-historyProve.htm
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208: Heaven: Jehovah's Witness style Error #7
What is wrong with this picture? #7 What is the earth doing here at all? 2 Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Rev 20:11 heaven and earth fled from his presence Heb 12:25-29 created things to be removed Rev 21:4 the first things have passed away The physical universe did not exist prior to God creating it in Genesis 1:1. In fact, the Sun and Earth, have existed for a relatively short period of time. At the second coming of Christ, the physical universe will be destroyed and will no longer exist. It was created in Genesis 1:1, and will be uncreated at the second coming (2 Peter 3:10). Yet to us, this temporary physical universe is all we know, and because it is all we can see, many have falsely concluded that life on earth is all there is! Heaven and hell, even God Himself are of the same mysterious realm. We enter this ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/jw-heaven-7.htm
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209: Lunar Eclipses at birth and death of Christ: 1 BC and 3 April ...
... Even though secular history is silent on this event it does not mean it did not occur." (The Slaughter of the Innocents: Historical Fact or Legendary Fiction? Gordon Franz, Associates for Bible Research, 2009 AD) We suggest that the timing of such an eclipse not only marked the execution of Matthias, but also all the children as well at the same time! The birth of Christ of 4-7 BC is based upon a partial lunar eclipse on 13 March 4 BC but must be rejected because it places the birth of Christ ... In 2008, Mark Biltz suggested huge events are possible, including the return of Jesus, based upon the four lunar eclipses of 2014/15 AD. John Hagee has followed suite in copying the Biltz heresy. However Hagee is a serpent in that he projects the idea of some huge fulfillment of prophecy event will happen in connection with these four lunar eclipses while never actually saying such. This way he can pull a "Jehovah's Witness" when Christ doesn't return and blame it all on the stupid sheep! Both ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/jesus-christ-died-death-cross-eclipse-red-blood-moon-sun-darkness-earthquake-bodies-raised-resurrection-temple-veil-torn-in-two-centurian-son-of-god-3-april-33AD.htm
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210: Early Christians always met on the First day (Sunday) and never ...
... The ten commandments are the foremost visible representation of this first/old covenant was replaced by a new covenant called, among other things "the law of Christ". 100% of the old covenant was abolished. No part of the Old Covenant remains in force. No one prior to Moses (Abraham or Adam) ever heard of the Sabbath law much less kept it. The very first time that anyone was commanded to keep the Sabbath was in Exodus 16. The word "Sabbath" is not even found in the book of Genesis. Gen 2:2-3 was ... Historically, it was in 1844 the first Seventh-day Adventists (known then as Millerites) started keeping the Sabbath, introduced to them by a Seventh-day Baptist named Joseph Bates, who convinced their Methodist minister that the Bible teaches us to keep the Sabbath. But Seventh-day Adventists are convinced that God chose Ellen White and the modern Seventh-day Adventist movement as the medium through which to reveal and confirm this "truth" through direct inspiration and revelation. Although ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday.htm
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211: How Sabbatarians twist scripture: What you must know to refute ...
Stunning new documentary book exposes Sabbath keepers as frauds and hypocrites "I was a third generation Seventh-day Adventist of over 50 years of sabbath Keeping, but thanks to the good work of the staff, researchers, and writers at bible.ca, I am no longer a sabbatarian! Adventists are having a much more difficult time keeping the TRUTH about the Adventist 'truth' from its own members and prospective converts." Kerry Wynne, July 31, 2009 Sabbathgate 1888 10 Commandments for Sabbatarians! Thou ... Thou shalt remember that the two greatest commandments were not in the 10 commandments. Thou shalt stop misrepresenting history by ignoring the fact that early Christians always worshipped on the first day (Sunday) and never kept the Sabbath! Thou shalt not claim that Ellen G. White was an inspired prophet, when in fact she plagiarized (copied) most of her major books from the local library including many of what she claimed were visions from God! Thou shalt not teach that the Ten Commandments ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/7-twist.htm
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212: Difficult Questions for Mormons to answer
... Why aren't any of the Indian tribes racially or genetically the same as Hebrews? American Indians are all of Mongoloid origin. Why did Joseph Smith send missionaries to the "Lamanites" if the American Indians at the time weren't really "Lamanites"? (D&C 10:48, 28:8, 54:8, etc.) He certainly considered the Indians to be Lamanites (even if the current leaders of the church no longer believe them to be so). ' The Book of Mormon is a record of the forefathers of our western tribes of Indians. By it we learn that our western tribes of Indians are descendants from that Joseph who was sold into Egypt, and that the land of America is a promised land unto them.' (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 17). 'He told me of a sacred record which was written on plates of gold, I saw in the vision the place where they were deposited, he said the Indians were the literal descendants of Abraham.' (Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, Diary 1835-1836, pg. 76). (Note - this was one of Smith's ... ...
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213: 100 Sabbath keeper stumper questions.
Noah and Abraham keep the Sabbath, when Deuteronomy 5:2-4 says that the 10 commandment covenant (see was "not made with any of the fathers of Israel who lived before Moses." 11. If the Sabbath was intended for all people, both Jew and Gentile, then why does Exodus 31:16-17 state that the Sabbath was a sign between God and the "Children of Israel" instead of clarifying that it should be kept by all people of all nations for all time? 12. Why is the Sabbath never mentioned in the Book of Job? ... Exodus 16:23,29; 31:13-18. Were either Abraham or Seventh-day Adventists ever slaves in Egypt? 17. If the Sabbath law is still in force, then why do they not stone their own members when they break the Sabbath as the law said? 18. Ellen G. White, who is considered inspired by Seventh-day Adventists, said that the Pope changed the Sabbath in about 321 AD. Why do all Adventists today reject their inspired prophet and say the change of the Sabbath occurred in about 140 AD? If White was wrong about ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbath-questions.htm
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214: Largest Audio/Video library of Pentecostal Manifestation Heresy ...
... John Scotland Click to View Use of secular music [48 seconds] Click to View Use of secular music in his performance. Scotland quoted more from secular rock bands more than the Bible. Apart from the 14 verses in the Luke 1 reading, (a reading that had no relevance, nor did he make any spiritual application) He quoted the Bible only one other time, yet he quoted these rock stars 4 times! Scotland was at Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship in August 1997 when he did this. "Strawberry fields forever." "the party has only just begggaaaaann." "All we need is love. All we need is love." "I shot the sheriff. And I shot the deputy to." See and hear the video clip! John Scotland Click to View Vision of the dead churches Click to View [1:43 mintues] Vision of the dead churches: Scotland claims this vision came from God. What spiritual value is there in a bishops daughter crawling as a drunken harlot down the street? This vision is certainly not from God! see Col 2:18 "taking his stand on visions ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/tongues-audio-video-documentation.htm
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215: What New Converts Don't know about their own Organization
... system only at that point. Top executives of the Society have admitted under oath that they forced their members to accept false prophecies or face disfellowshipping and be found worthy of death. Blood transfusions, vaccinations and organ transplants were originally condemned because Jw's view man as wholly physical and based upon the medical science of the 1800's, they feared that tendencies to sin could be transmitted like a disease through a transfusion or organ transplant. Is it only a matter of time until they change their view on blood transfusions too? Give's the expression, "I can't help it...it is in my blood" a whole new meaning! An early Watchtower publication called Zion's Watchtower said that a new view of truth can never contradict a former truth. "New light" never extinguishes older "light" but merely adds to it. (Zion's Watchtower, February 1881, page 3.) We speak the truth in Love... Go back to Main Jehovah's Witness Index Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ...
https://www.bible.ca/Jw-Dont-Know.htm
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216: Part1: Pagan Section: Trinity Watchtower BOOKLET: Should You ...
... A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge notes that many say that the Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith." Bible trasher: It is Satanic for the Watchtower to say, Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith", but not tell you the author also trashes all church organization, baptism, the Lord's supper and the doctrine of blood atonement in the same book! And The Paganism in Our Christianity declares: "The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan." Christianity trasher Weigall again! The Watchtower "STAR WITNESS" that trinity is pagan! This is the fourth time Watchtowers have quoted him. What they never tell you in utter satanic deception is that Weigall, in the same book TRASHES 27 other bible doctrines that Jehovah's Witnesses believe DID NOT come from paganism. That is why, in the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: "In Indian religion, e.g., we ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-JW-SYBTT-Watchtower-BOOKLET-Should-You-Believe-the-Trinity-EXPOSED-REFUTED-pagan-section.htm
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217: The Exodus Route: Red Sea Camp at the Straits of Tiran
... Israel arrived at the Red Sea Camp on day 17 and waited 7 more days for Pharaoh to arrive by horse with his chariots on day 24. 17 travel days produces an average daily distance of 29 km per day for the full 500 km trip. Israel traveled day and night and had supernatural help from God so they would not stumble at any time: Isaiah 63:11-14. Pharaoh made the 400 km trip from Egypt in 7 days and arrives on day 24 but the angel keeps the Egyptian army at bay until after Israel crossed the Red sea. All night of day 24 God parts the sea and uses the wind to dry the seafloor. On the morning of Sunday Day 25 Israel begins the 16 km crossing of the Red Sea The first 2 km of crossing the Red sea the depth reaches 250 meters, after that for the next 14 km the depth is only 50 meters. On day 25, with a 1 km wide track travelling 4 km per hour, it would take one person 4 hours to make the 16 km crossing. In 1446 BC, in the afternoon of day 25, the waters "backtracked" (same word used at Etham) and ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-straits-of-tiran.htm
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218: Heaven: Jehovah's Witness style Error #2
What is wrong with this picture? #2 Where do these children come from? Lk 20:33 "In the resurrection therefore, which one's wife will she be? For all seven had her as wife." 34 And Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage; 36 for neither can they die anymore, for they are like angels Look at the couple with their child. Where did they get this child from? There is no marriage in paradise. Where do these children come from? Is there going to be sex without marriage in heaven? If there is reproduction through sex, how will the earth contain this over time? Will we be colonizing other plants? Neo-Sadduceeism exposed website Pick another number! What is wrong with this picture? 8 things are wrong!!! Click on each red number to find out! Click to View Neo-Sadduceeism exposed website Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ...
https://www.bible.ca/jw-heaven-2.htm
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219: Scientology is not a Religion: Kent
... Some had crude bunk beds. There was no place for clothes, so we lived out of suitcases and bags which were kept on bare floors. Some privacy was maintained by hanging sheets up between bunk beds and between floor mattresses. The women and men had separate bathrooms and toilets but they were small. We were not allowed to shower longer than 30 seconds. We had only to run through the shower and out the other end. There was no spare time for talk or relaxation. We awoke at 6:30 A.M. or earlier at times, did hard labor and heavy construction work and cleaning until late afternoon. After [a] quick shower and change of clothing, we had to audit each other and 'rehabilitate' ourselves until 10:30 P.M. or later each evening. There were no days off, four weeks a month. We ate our meals in the garage or at times in the dining rooms AFTER normal meals had ended. Our food consisted of leftovers from staff. On occasions which seemed like Christmas, we were able to prepare ourselves fresh meals if ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/scientology-not-religion-kent.htm
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220: 1001 BC: Papyrus Moscow 127: Wermai's Odyssey & Tragic Tale of ...
... This is good evidence that Solomon was in fact the original designer and builder of the water system from Etam to his Jerusalem temple. Click to View I. Authorities on the Letter of Aristeas to Philocrates: 1. "The Epistle claims to be a contemporary record, written with the personal knowledge of an eye-witness, by Aristeas, an officer at the court of Ptolemy Philadelphus (285-247 b.c.), to his brother Philocrates, giving an account of the circumstances which led up to the composition of the LXX version of the Jewish law. The events with which it deals are supposed to take place during the lifetime of Queen Arsinoe (§ 41). As Arsinoe became Queen about 278 b.c. and died in 270 b.c., these dates provide us with the time limits within which the story must be placed. If the allusion to the royal children in § 41 is not an anachronism, but contains a reference to the fact that Arsinoe, finding herself childless, adopted the offspring of her predecessor, the date must be fixed towards the ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/bible-manuscripts-archeology-Zedekiah-letter-of-Aristeas-to-Philocrates-Pseudepigrapha-Psammetichus-Septuagint-LXX-Psamtik-II-Expedition-Nubia-Egypt-troops-Ezek17-15-593BC.htm
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221: Catalogue and List of Divine Titles of God
Click to View New Testament names for Father Click to View New Testament names for Son Click to View New Testament names for Holy Spirit The following will send shivers up the spine of every Jehovah's Witness! To their horror, the divine name underwent change and development. "God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am the Lord; and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I did not make Myself known to them." (Exodus 6:2-3) From Adam to Moses, God's name was "El-Shaddai" (God Almighty). From Moses to Christ, God's name was YHWH (Yahweh or Jehovah). For Christians the name of God is JESUS! "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12) Certainly the Jews never foresaw the time when YHWH would no longer be used as the name for God and it would be replace with Jesus! But actually, in God's providence, the Jews were actually part of the ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-definition-god-titles.htm
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222: Augusta Triumphans, Daniel Defoe, 1728 AD
... Handsome salaries should be allowed these masters, to engage their constant attendance every day from eight till twelve in the morning; and I think 100l. per annum for each would be sufficient, which will be a trifle to so wealthy a body. The multiplicity of holidays should be abridged, and only a few kept; there cannot be too few, considering what a hinderance they are to juvenile studies. It is a vulgar error that has too long prevailed all over England to the great detriment of learning, and many boys have been made blockheads in complaisance to kings and saints dead for many ages past. The morning employed in music, the boys should go in the afternoon, or so many hours, to the reading and writing school, and in the evening should practice, at least two hours before bed-time, and two before the master comes in the morning. This course held for seven or eight years, will make them fine proficients; but that they should not go too raw or young out of the academy, it is proper, that at ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/augusta-triumphans-daniel-defoe-1728ad.htm
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223: Hypochondriasis: A Practical Treatise, John Hill, 1766 AD
... Boswell's Hypochondriack Papers (1777-1783) contributed to the London Magazine, and such "sensible" and "sensitive" women as Mrs. Bennett and Miss Bates in the novels of Jane Austen. So great in bulk is this literature in the mid eighteenth century, that C. A. Moore has written, "statistically, this deserves to be called the Age of Melancholy."4 The vastness of this literature is sufficient to justify the reprinting of an unavailable practical handbook on the subject by a prolific author all too little known.5 The medical background of Hill's pamphlet extends further back than the seventeenth century and Burton's Anatomy. The ancient Greeks had theorized about hypochondria: tilloY ov8paa6.y signified a disorder beneath (ulJo) the gristle ()COvio/a) and the disease was discussed principally in physiological terms. The belief that hypochondriasis was a somatic condition persisted until the second half of the seventeenth century at which time an innovation was made by Dr. Thomas Sydenham. ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/hypochondriasis-a-practical-treatise-john-hill-1766ad.htm
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224: Taylor Trail: Evidence that Dinosaurs and Humans coexisted
... Click here to see the outline of the dino track, then the outline of where the human stepped partially in the dino track. (Click on photo for high resolution) Click to View -3B Click here to see an outline imposed on a close up of the toes. (Click on photo for high resolution) -3B destroyed once for all time! Click to View -3B This is one of three tracks featured at the 1989 Dayton, TN creation conference that was destroyed the next day. On August 12, 1989 Dr. Don Patton spoke at a creation conference in Dayton, TN. He presented compelling evidence that both human and dinosaur tracks were present at the Taylor Trail, including the above pictures. Two well known evolutionists were present and at least one was conspicuously disturbed by this presentation. Both flew to Dallas the next morning and went immediately to the Paluxy River. It is reliably reported that they were in the river that afternoon with an "iron bar." Three days before they were in the river the footprint was observed ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm
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225: The Ryals Track: Evidence that Dinosaurs and Humans co-existed
Don Patton illustrates how these impressions were made. As Dr. Patton stepped forward, his toes naturally fit into the depressions. (Click on photo for high resolution) Prized Ryals Track destroyed once for all time! This is one of three tracks featured at the 1989 Dayton, TN creation conference that was destroyed the next day. On August 12, 1989 Dr. Don Patton spoke at a creation conference in Dayton, TN. He presented compelling evidence that both human and dinosaur tracks were present at the Taylor Trail, including these pictures. Two well known evolutionists were present and at least one was conspicuously disturbed by this presentation. Both flew to Dallas the next morning and went immediately to the Paluxy River. It is reliably reported that they were in the river that afternoon with an "iron bar." Three days before they were in the river the footprint was observed looking like the pictures above. Three days after they were in the river, the track was destroyed. Click to View Click ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/tracks/ryals-track.htm
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226: Saul Becomes king. Timeline, maps, chronology, sermons of Judges ...
... Punishment of Babylon: "They will drink and stagger and go mad (Nebuchadnezzar) [halal, 1984, Hithpoel] because of the sword that I will send among them." Jeremiah 25:16 c. "Babylon has been a golden cup in the hand of the Lord, Intoxicating all the earth. The nations have drunk of her wine; Therefore the nations are going mad [halal, 1984, Hithpoel]." Jeremiah 51:7 d. "For the Lord God of hosts has a day of panic, subjugation and confusion [mehumah, 4103] In the valley of vision, A breaking down of walls And a crying to the mountain. " Isaiah 22:5 e. "'Your doom has come to you, O inhabitant of the land. The time has come, the day is near-tumult [mehumah, 4103] rather than joyful shouting on the mountains. " Ezekiel 7:7 f. ""I will call for a sword against him on all My mountains," declares the Lord God. "Every man's sword will be against his brother." (Ezekiel 38:21) g. "In that day," declares the Lord, "I will strike every horse with bewilderment and his rider with madness ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-maps-timeline-chronology-1samuel-16-20-saul-jonathan-david-1019-1012bc.htm
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227: Demetrius the Chronographer: 220 BC PDF Mt. Sinai in Arabia
Demetrius wrote a book called "On the Kings in Judea" which dated to Ptolemy Philopater IV (222-204 BC) and is the first extant chronology based directly upon the Septuagint translated just 60 years earlier in 280 BC. Demetrius is also the earliest datable Jewish author who wrote in Greek. b. "Demetrius is the first witness to the use of the Septuagint, or at least of the Greek Pentateuch. His work clearly, and perhaps exclusively, presupposes the Greek Old Testament. Evidence for a knowledge of ... Text of Demetrius in 220 BC, as recorded by Clement in AD 200: "Demetrius in his book On the Kings of Judaea says that the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi were not taken captive by Sennacherib, and moreover, from that captivity when Nebuchadnezzar deported them from Jerusalem, the period was 128 years six months. From the time when the ten tribes were taken as prisoners from Samaria to Ptolemy IV, 573 years nine months, and from the deportation from Jerusalem, 338 years three months. Philo ... ...
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228: Official creed of Reformed Baptist church
... and reverent esteem of the Holy Scriptures; and the heavenliness of the matter, the efficacy of the doctrine, and the majesty of the style, the consent of all the parts, the scope of the whole (which is to give all glory to God), the full discovery it makes of the only way of man's salvation, and many other incomparable excellencies, and entire perfections thereof, are arguments whereby it doth abundantly evidence itself to be the Word of God; yet notwithstanding, our full persuasion and assurance of the infallible truth, and divine authority thereof, is from the inward work of the Holy Spirit bearing witness by and with the Word in our hearts. (John 16:13,14; 1 Cor. 2:10-12; 1 John 2:20, 27) The whole counsel of God concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man's salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down or necessarily contained in the Holy Scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelation of the Spirit, or traditions of men. ... ...
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229: Mental Illness Myths and other Unicorns!
... Many of these doctors and patients have begun to take stock: have the benefits of psychoanalysis justified the hours of torturous self-examination, the years of painfully slow probing, the $25,000 or so spent for the complete "treatment"? In short, are psychiatry and psychoanalysis worth the millions-a-year Americans lavish on it? . . . The truth is that not only is the dramatic breakthrough and cure almost nonexistent, but thousands upon thousands who have spent millions upon millions aren't at all certain whether they are one whit less "neurotic" than before they began their five-times-a-week, $25-a-session trudge to the psychoanalyst's couch... But much more significant than the gradual disillusionment of patients is the wholesale defection of analysists themselves from the Freudian fold. Many doctors are now sharply challenging the need for long-drawn-out excavations of the subconscious.)" (Dr. H. J. Eysenck, Time Magazine, February 14, 1964, p. 43) Click to View By Steve Rudd: ... ...
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230: The Lord's Supper
... In any event both the Western and Eastern traditions are in agreement that the bread and the wine becomes the body and blood of Christ in the Eucharistic celebration." (Eastern Greek Orthodox apologist) 4. The whole debate between Roman Catholic and Orthodox regarding whether the bread is leavened or unleavened revolves around whether the Lord's supper was instituted at the same time the Jews ate the lamb, or the day before. a. It should be clear, first of all, that there is no contradiction between the synoptic gospels and the gospel of John. The issue is solved by simply noting that John uses Roman time, while the synoptics use Jewish time. Click here for more details on the truth that the Lord's Supper was instituted on Thursday evening, Nissan 14, the same day Jesus and the Passover lamb was killed (Friday afternoon at 3 PM) but exactly 24 hours before the Jews ate the cedar Passover feast of lamb according to Ex 12. b. So although we side with the Orthodox on the fact the Lord's ... ...
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231: What the Bible says about Abortion!
... It also riddled them with guilt over whether they had effectively taken the decision to inflict their son with years of handicap, pain and suffering. So, this being the United States, they turned to the internet for help. Julie's mother found a website giving details of pioneering surgery being carried out by a team at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee. Although the results have not yet been endorsed in medical journals, they looked encouraging to Mr. And Mrs. Armas. Their doctor put them in touch with Dr. Joseph Bruner (it is his finger in the photograph). A race against time had begun. Because it affects the spinal cord, spina bifida can lead to a condition that causes brain damage. Mr and Mrs. Armas were told that if they were to avoid the condition, which was not then present in Samuel, they had to act fast. ``I wasn't concerned about a child who couldn't walk,'' said Julie, ``but I want a child who knows me.'' The theory behind the surgery is that attention to he spine ... ...
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232: Trinity Attackers refuted! (Watchtower's: Should You Believe ...
... A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge notes that many say that the Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith." Bible trasher: It is Satanic for the Watchtower to say, Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith", but not tell you the author also trashes all church organization, baptism, the Lord's supper and the doctrine of blood atonement in the same book! And The Paganism in Our Christianity declares: "The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan." Christianity trasher Weigall again! The Watchtower "STAR WITNESS" that trinity is pagan! This is the fourth time Watchtowers have quoted him. What they never tell you in utter satanic deception is that Weigall, in the same book TRASHES 27 other bible doctrines that Jehovah's Witnesses believe DID NOT come from paganism. That is why, in the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: "In Indian religion, e.g., we ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-frames-start-page-SYBTT.htm
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233: Official creed of The United Church of Canada
... We worship Him in the unity of the Godhead and the mystery of the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, three persons of the same substance, equal in power and glory. 2.2 Article II. Of Revelation. We believe that God has revealed Himself in nature, in history, and in the heart of man; that He has been graciously pleased to make clearer revelation of Himself to men of God who spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit; and that in the fullness of time He has perfectly revealed Himself in Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, who is the brightness of the Father's glory and the express image of His person. We receive the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, given by inspiration of God, as containing the only infallible rule of faith and life, a faithful record of God's gracious revelations, and as the sure witness of Christ. 2.3 Article III. Of the Divine Purpose. We believe that the eternal, wise, holy and loving purpose of God so embraces all events that, while ... ...
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234: Jehovah's Witness New Convert website
Click to View Click to View Amazing things the Watchtower taught New converts 25 years ago! An informed Witness, is soon to be an Ex-WITNESS!!! Enter the information age! Click to View We speak the truth in Love... If Witnesses have the truth and nothing to fear from self-investigation, why are they officially forbidden from reading any materials that cross-examine their doctrines? Click to View "Jehovah's Witnesses cost me my family" For those familiar with Jehovah's Witnesses, this story is both common and predictable and one of thousands. But new JW converts are often unaware of what the future holds for them. Click here to see the recent story that made the front page of a major newspaper. A suicidal mother, with the full consent, knowledge and help of other Jw's, kidnaps her kids from their father. His greatest sin was that he smoked cigarettes but the real reason is because he said one time to his wife, "my kids are forbidden to go to the Kingdom Hall." A week later they ... ...
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235: Early Christian faith on Trinity, deity of Christ, personality ...
... It was not the Father, then, who was a guest with Abraham, but Christ. Nor was it the Father who was seen then, but the Son; and Christ was seen. Rightly, therefore, Christ is both Lord and God, who was not otherwise seen by Abraham, except that as God the Word He was begotten of God the Father before Abraham himself." (A Treatise of Novatian Concerning the Trinity, Chapter XVIII. Argument.-Moreover Also, from the Fact that He Who Was Seen of Abraham is Called God; Which Cannot Be Understood of the Father, Whom No Man Hath Seen at Any Time; But of the Son in the Likeness of an Angel.) Constitutions of the Holy Apostles: "To Him did Moses bear witness, and said: "The Lord received fire from the Lord, and rained it down." Him did Jacob see as a man, and said: "I have seen God face to face, and my soul is preserved." Him did Abraham entertain, and acknowledge to be the Judge, and his Lord." (Constitutions of the Holy Apostles, Book V. XX. A Prophetic Prediction Concerning Christ Jesus.) ... ...
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236: Tomb of Jesus with Rolling stone
... But as soon as the original surface of the ground, beneath the covering of earth, appeared, immediately, and contrary to all expectation, the venerable and hollowed monument of our Saviour's resurrection was discovered. Then indeed did this most holy cave present a faithful similitude of his return to life, in that, after lying buried in darkness, it again emerged to light, and afforded to all who came to witness the sight, a clear and visible proof of the wonders of which that spot had once been the scene, a testimony to the resurrection of the Saviour clearer than any voice could give." 5. Burial practices vary over the period of Bible history. a. In 2500 BC the Egyptians built the great pyramids of Giza as tombs for their kings. b. 2100 BC: At the time of Abraham, burials were in simple caves and sometimes they built large rectangular memorial structures to mark the grave. (Tomb of Rachel) c. 1500 BC: Ancient Canaanites would bury children inside of secondary use pithos jars, like ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-tombs-burials-Jewish-rolling-stone-Jesus-Christ-resurrection-3-days-Koch-Loculi-ossuary.htm
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237: What is the 1000 Year Reign of Christ?
What is the 1000 Year Reign of Christ? When the complex life becomes to intense, and our frustrations on earth rise to high level, we as men of all ages speculate about the end. We're living in such a time. Good people are investing enormous energy in many ways on prophecy, and on predictions of the immediate end of the world. The state of the Kingdom, which is the same as the church, finds various views of millennial theories becoming increasingly popular. We shall not labor the point overly ... And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given to them, and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon his foreheads or in their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again, until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that has ... ...
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238: Top ten list of why the Roman Catholic and Orthodox take the ...
every time the fathers used the word "tradition", that they are referring exclusively to "oral tradition" and not scripture. The Church Fathers continued to quote scripture to refute the Gnostics and the Arians even after they misquoted scriptures of their own. The idea that the early church gave up on "proof-texting" to fight heresy and began to rely upon tradition is utterly false. The "Rule of Faith" creeds drafted by the post apostolic church were 100% based upon scripture phrase by phrase. The idea that they had their origin in extra-biblical oral tradition is utterly false. It is wrong to view creeds, like the Nicene creed, as proof that oral tradition continues today, since these creeds were in fact written down and being written, were no longer "oral" traditions! When the Church Fathers made reference to a "oral apostolic tradition" separate from scripture, they always viewed such tradition as duplicating what the apostles later revealed in scripture as a parallel witness. ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-top-10-list.htm
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239: Would you die to promote a lies and deception?
life, that they had pondered His matchless teaching, that He had died on the cross, that He had been buried, and that within a short time they had seen Him alive. They had scientific proof that they were again with Jesus. This proof came by the seeing of the eye, as they saw His familiar features, by the hearing of the ear, as they heard His beloved voice, and by the impact on them of His well known personality. They touched Him, they ate with Him, they heard Him teach them, they saw Him under a variety of circumstances, and when more than five hundred persons were present. (I Cor. 15:5-8). It was impossible for so many to have been deceived so many times. They knew that Christ had been raised from the dead and they demonstrated their sincerity by dying for this great truth. Theirs was not just a subjective experience. Once we accept the truth of the resurrection, to which they bore witness, it is easy to accept the other miracles of Jesus and to accept the truth of His teaching. ... ...
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240: Court ordered junk science psychiatric assessments in child custody ...
An entire industry has been created because judges are now routinely granting these psychiatric assessments in child custody and divorce cases. The Psychiatry industry cannot believe its good fortune in being welcomed, for the first time in their short history, into the mainstream of respect, credibility and power. Of course this is a huge mistake and families not only pay in cash, but in the destruction of their family lives at the hands of these psychiatric assessments. A. A stalling technique and defensive tactic used by parents: Both husbands and wives use this evil tactic of making false charges in court to gain an advantage of the other in custody cases. However, there are so many documented cases of mothers falsely charging their former husbands of physical and sexual abuse of them and the children, it has become an epidemic. It is also evil. It is breaking the ten commandments that say: "Thou shalt not bear false witness." But since so many people have stopped going to church, ... ...
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241: Using Surveys to generate leads for Bible study!
... A Bible Correspondence course (4 Lessons) Home Bible study at your convenience Home Bible study for your children Series of videos in your home on the theme of the Bible Visiting of the sick Arrangements (optional) 8. Name Address Phone Number Number of children ___ Ages ___ Thank you for your time, sir. We appreciate you answering these questions for us. Click to View Religious Survey Form NAME ADDRESS 1. Do you consider yourself to be a religious person? Yes No 2. What local church do you attend? 3. Are you a member of that church? 4. How often do you attend church services? Every service Once a week Occasionally Rarely 5. What church does your husband/wife attend? 6. Do you have children living at home? Yes No 7. Are you familiar with the church of Christ? Yes No 8. Do you find the Bible a difficult book to understand? Yes No 9. (If yes) Do you have a free afternoon or evening when we can sit down with you and help overcome this difficulty? (If no) What has been your key to ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-surveys.htm
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242: Catholicism's SHOCKING attitude toward the Bible!
... Apostles and prophets directed also to write, Rev. 1:19. Inspired writings put into circulation, 1 Thess. 5:27; Col. 4:16. WORD OF GOD BOTH ORAL AND WRITTEN, 2 Thess. 2:15; 2 Pet. 3:1-2. ALL WRITTEN Apostles and prophets delivered the faith, Jude 3. Miraculous powers pass away, 1 Cor. 13:8-9. WORD OF GOD IN WRITTEN FORM ONLY, 2 Tim. 3:15-17. There was a time when all of the word of God was given orally--by word of mouth of the inspired apostles and prophets. Christians during that period were guided solely by the inspired teachers who were present with them. Paul said, "And now, behold, I know that you all among whom I went about preaching the kingdom of God, will see my face no longer. Therefore I call you to witness this day that I am innocent of the blood of all; for I have not shrunk from declaring to you the whole counsel of God." (Acts 20:25-27). The word of God given orally by the ambassadors of Christ was the guide and standard of authority in that early period. If an ... ...
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243: Midianite Pottery: The designer import of the ancient world.
... Yet, it must be said that a certain degree of reliance is placed on Biblical traditions relating to the Kenites-Midianites as the ancient metalworkers of the southernmost Arabah and in the area of the Red Sea." (Timna, Beno Rothenberg, 1969 AD) Timna and Jezirat Faraun were used at the same time and in conjunction with each other under Egyptian control 1440 BC - 1200 BC. "we now propose to identify early Jezirat Fara'un as a Pharaonic mining harbour. ... investigations and the finds on the ... Neutron Activation Analysis, Gunneweg, 1991 AD) The result of the scientific tests was stunning, since it proved that indeed Midianite pottery found in the Negev was imported from a kiln discovered at Qurayyah, in modern Saudi Arabia. "We have compared these data with those obtained from archaeologically defined local 'Midianite' pottery, which was obtained through the late Mrs C.-M. Bennett from Parr's survey at Qurayyah in Midian (Arabia) and analysed at the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory. ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-midianite-pottery.htm
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244: A Working Plan for local evangelism
A willing church Supportive leadership Daily Bible reading schedule Method of contacting Correspondence course Gospel study outlines Follow-up outlines Reliance upon God Click to View II. Congregational start-up checklist: A. Preparatory stage: one month Leaders define a specific plan Begin congregational quiet time program: (Daily Bible reading & prayer) Specifically identify those willing to participate Prepare gospel study & follow-up outlines B. Equipping Stage: two months Train members to ... Click to View V. The Canadian advantage: "All across the country churches reported that they had a small group of "evangelistically minded" people who were busy working with others, sowing the seed. Many congregations spoke of some especially gifted individuals who had converted a good percentage of their new Christians (20% - 90%). Who were these talented soul-winners? Mostly new converts!" Vision Canada 1988 Steve Rudd Click Your Choice Go to Interactive Bible Websight Go back to Evangelism ... ...
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245: Sola Scriptura proven from the Bible! Irrefutable proof texts ...
... Unlike Jesus, Catholics and Orthodox don't ask you what you think scripture says, they just tell you how their church interprets it and you have no choice but to accept what they tell you. Click to View Acts 17:11-12: Even though the apostles were inspired with genuine oral revelation, they always directed people to the scriptures for the final determination of truth. Oral tradition is worthless without the witness of scripture! Unlike the apostles, Catholics and Orthodox would never send you to scripture, since they don't think you can even understand it! I. The example of Jesus: Quoted scripture, never tradition: A. Jesus defeated the three temptations of the Devil with, "it is written", not "I say". Mt 4:1-11 The Temptation of Jesus: Matthew 4:1-11. Three times Jesus was tempted by the Devil and each time Jesus replied exactly the same three dangerous words that defeated the Devil: "IT IS WRITTEN" Read it for yourself! If any one could have used oral tradition, it was Jesus, yet he ... ...
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246: Part 2: Bible Section: Trinity Watchtower BOOKLET: Should You ...
... The quickest way to see the mistake in the Jehovah's Witness interpretation of John 17:3 is in Eph 4:4-6. ("there is one God and one Lord") If "One God" excludes Jesus from God, then "One Lord" excludes God from being Lord. Yet we know that they share these identical characteristics. learn more That is why nowhere in the Bible is anyone but Jehovah called Almighty. Otherwise, it voids the meaning of the word "almighty." Neither Jesus nor the holy spirit is ever called that, for Jehovah alone is supreme. Hippolytus certainly applies Rev 1:8 to Christ and calls Jesus "The Almighty" several times. But even if the Father is alone called the Almighty, this still doesn't prove Jesus is a created angel! At Genesis 17:1 he declares: "I am God Almighty." And Exodus 18:11 says: "Jehovah is greater than all the other gods." We draw your attention to the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses are actually polytheists! They hide this from you now, but they will teach you their polytheism in time! While ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-JW-SYBTT-Watchtower-BOOKLET-Should-You-Believe-the-Trinity-EXPOSED-REFUTED-bible-section.htm
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247: Trinity Attackers refuted! (Watchtower's: Should You Believe ...
... The quickest way to see the mistake in the Jehovah's Witness interpretation of John 17:3 is in Eph 4:4-6. ("there is one God and one Lord") If "One God" excludes Jesus from God, then "One Lord" excludes God from being Lord. Yet we know that they share these identical characteristics. learn more That is why nowhere in the Bible is anyone but Jehovah called Almighty. Otherwise, it voids the meaning of the word "almighty." Neither Jesus nor the holy spirit is ever called that, for Jehovah alone is supreme. Hippolytus certainly applies Rev 1:8 to Christ and calls Jesus "The Almighty" several times. But even if the Father is alone called the Almighty, this still doesn't prove Jesus is a created angel! At Genesis 17:1 he declares: "I am God Almighty." And Exodus 18:11 says: "Jehovah is greater than all the other gods." We draw your attention to the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses are actually polytheists! They hide this from you now, but they will teach you their polytheism in time! While ... ...
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248: Pentecost in Acts 2:1 was on Sunday
It wasn't until about 70 AD that the Pharisees view came into power and prominence. This means that even though both methods of calculating Pentecost agreed that it fell on the first day of the week in Acts 2:1, the Sadducces had the official say at this time to calculate the actual day. In other words, during Christ's 30 years on earth as a man, Pentecost always fell on the first day. Regardless of whether the Sadducee's or Pharisee's method of calculating Pentecost was used the year Christ ... by Qadesh La Yahweh Press, 1998, p 258) "The Sadducees celebrated it on the 50th day (inclusive reckoning) from the first Sunday after Passover (taking the 'sabbath' of Lv. 23:15 to be the weekly sabbath); their reckoning regulated the public observance so long as the Temple stood, and the church is therefore justified in commemorating the first Christian Pentecost on a Sunday (Whit Sunday). The Pharisees, however, interpreted the 'sabbath' of Lv. 23:15 as the Festival of Unleavened Bread (cf. ... ...
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249: Pre-tribulation Rapture Gap Theory refuted. The church age
... Then at the 11th hour, you stop the clock for 2000 years and start it again because of a guess based on some world event like Israel becoming a nation. 3. Physical Israel becoming a physical nation again is what is "not the subject of Old Testament prophecy". Starting the clock again in 1948 AD is wild unfounded, unbiblical speculation. 4. There are four key time prophecies in the Bible that predicted the coming of the Kingdon in 33 A.D. on Pentecost. These prophecies are time sensitive and stopping the clock makes them fail: a. Jesus said the time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God is at hand: Mk 1:15. You cannot extent this for 2000 years because it makes the time sensitive statement fail. b. Jesus said that his disciples would live to see the kingdom with their own eyes and before they died the Kingdom of God that was prophesied in the Old Testament would be established: Mk 9:1 c. Daniel saw a vision of four human kingdoms and prophesied that the Kingdom of God would be established ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/pre-tribulation-rapture-gap-theory-church-age-parentheses-dispensationalists-premillenarians.htm
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250: Trinity proof texts: John 8:58
... Which one of you convicts Me of sin? v46 You have a demon v48 THE I am not of this world v23 Who are You? v25 When you lift me up, then you will know that I am v28 UP where I am going, you cannot come v21 Surely He will not kill Himself v22 the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me v18 Where is Your Father? v19 Click to View Ancient and Modern Commentators that precisely express what the verse is saying: Ancient commentators: (before 400 AD) Key Point! The unanimous opinion of the apostolic ... And we do not "reverence beyond measure one who has but lately appeared," as though He did not exist before; for we believe Himself when He says, "Before Abraham was, I am." Again He says, "I am the truth; " and surely none of us is so simple as to suppose that truth did not exist before the time when Christ appeared. We worship, therefore, the Father of truth, and the Son, who is the truth; and these, while they are two, considered as persons or subsistences, are one in unity of thought, in ... ...
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