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Sola Scriptura: Early Christians were as smart as we are today ... Click to View "Widespread malnutrition of the first three centuries crippled the thinking ability of the average Christian to engage in Bible study." False arguments that Catholics and Orthodox use to prove oral extra-scriptural church tradition are refuted. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View "Widespread malnutrition of the ... This is a perfect example of how post apostolic man-made rules directly contradict the teaching of the New testament that says the Christian can eat anything he likes, common food or the food of kings, as long as it is accepted with prayer and thanksgiving. 1 Tim 4:1-4 actually calls John ... They were once monks, ate the commoners food and crippled their brains to understand the Bible. Perhaps this explains why Orthodox and Catholics teach so many things that are contradictory to scripture! Of course, the truth is, there was plenty of food, more than enough for basic nutrition. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-nutrition.htm

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Kadesh-Barnea by Henry Clay Trumbull, 1884 AD ... in the few instances where I have specifically mentioned an intermediary agency through which alone I was able to refer to a work cited. ... This place comes into view as a strategic stronghold in the earliest military campaign of history; at the beginning in the time of the Father ... It is chosen by Saint Paul 2 as the likeness of the corres ponding failures of the first efforts of the primitive Christian church; the one ... were between that and the Dead Sea plains. The indications of the Scripture narrative, therefore, are, that Kedor-la omer s northward route ... This view of the passage is taken by elarius, and Miinster, as cited in Crit. Sac. ; and by Lyra, Malvenda, Menochius, and Fischer, as cited ... For references to this tradition, see Abulfeda s Hist. Anteislam., pp. 16, 178; Re- land e Palaestina, Book I., Cap. 14; Winer s Bibl. ... the wrong reading of many words, a fatally erroneous and exploded system of etymology, and false theories of decipherment and language." ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-henry-clay-trumbull-1884ad.htm

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Massive list of Roman Catholic False doctrines Massive list of Roman Catholic False doctrines Click to View Doctrines that contradict Bible. Click to View Mary had many other children in addition to Jesus Click to View Click to View Transubstantiation (real presence) is a false doctrine. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said, "this is my blood" and ... Click to View The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches false doctrine of "transubstantiation". The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches are bitterly divided to this very day over the Eucharist, both claiming their own "church tradition" is the correct one. Transubstantiation is a close cousin to Gnostic theology ... 20:4-5). 7. Why does it teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12). 8. Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? (Matt. 23:9). 9. Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11). 10. Why does it teach that there is ... ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-doctrine.htm

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Christmas: Separating Bible truth from Myth The Bible's story of the birth of Jesus by Steve Rudd Click to View Separating the Bible truth from the Myth Quick links in this document: I. ... TRUTH: There is no celebration of the birth of Christ in the Bible on any day, but began through human tradition to be celebrated about 250 AD ... Even after Herod sent Antipater to Rome as the apparent crown prince in 12/11 B.C., he continued to send back false reports against his ... on Herod's orders and Antipater became joint ruler with his father in 7 B.C. Testimony later came to light exposing both Antipater's ... C. Rodger Young continues: "Rhoads shows that all three passages refer to the same Judas and the insurrection he led (see a mention of this ... The twelve gathers in upper room waiting for Pentecost: Acts 1:13 Tabitha laid in upper room: Acts 9:36-37 Only recorded church service is in ... The star could have shone over Bethlehem or Nazareth. b. Both scenarios are supported in scripture and either are possible. c. Perhaps the two ... ... https://www.bible.ca/D-Xmas-story.htm

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Scientology: Hubbard and the Occult ... However, Hubbard was notorious for his sly humour and "scio" might also refer to the Greek word for a "shade" or "ghost". Scientology itself ... Contemporary New Age groups see the Great Mother in the aspect of Gaia the Earth Mother. This is far from Crowley's view. Diana, the patroness ... (090), should have adopted the exclusively Christian word "church", the garb of Christian ministers and the use of the cross as a symbol. ... L. Ron, junior, was sure that the teachings of the Germanen Orden and the Thule Society had passed directly to his father by courier. In this ... They form a sort of priestly nobility. They have developed an esoteric doctrine not merely formulated, but imparted through the symbols and ... still a scripture, and according to Hubbard's Standard Tech principle binding upon Scientologists. Hubbard issued a murder order in 1968 under the name "R2-45" (The Auditor issue 35). Thankfully, this order was not complied with. See for example the technique called False Data ... ... https://www.bible.ca/scientology-occult-roots.htm

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International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ISBE) Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Leaves the false impression that ISBE reject trinity, that Jesus is a creature and that Trinity had no foundation in scripture, but is of pagan origin. International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ISBE) What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "In the earliest thinking of the Church the tendency when speaking of God the Father is to conceive of Him first, not as the Father of Jesus Christ, but as the source of all being. Hence God the Father is, as it were, God par excellence. To Him belong such descriptions as unoriginate, immortal, immutable, ineffable, invisible, and ingenerate. It is ... Though "trinity" is a second-century term found nowhere in the Bible, and the Scriptures present no finished trinitarian statement, the NT does contain most of the building materials for later doctrine. In particular, while insisting on one God, it presents Jesus Christ as the divine Son in distinction from God the Father, and probably ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-ISBE.htm

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THE PIRATES OF PRIVILEGE: Walter Rea Rocks the Seventh-day Adventist ... Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA Click to View THE PIRATES OF PRIVILEGE by Walter Rea December, 1984 ... Davenport himself was born in Bakersfield, California, in 1913. His father was an Adventist doctor who had been a pioneer ... There was no opportunity to build up an equity such as workers here in the homeland are able to do. (What a litany of false ... In view of these public statements, it would seem that now is the time for the leadership of this Church to make public its involvement through the names of its leaders and the executives on the list of investors. Certain ... policy, have challenged no church doctrine or belief, and have applied myself with all diligence to my calling these many years. ... different sense from that intended by the writers of Scripture . . . one must face the fact that the originators and ... freedom of expression or choice for Adventists concerning attitudes or actions that conflict with church thought or tradition. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-pirates-of-privilege.htm

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Introduction and overview to Roman Catholicism: Start here Definition ... The present roman catholic church organization in Rome is Christ's one true church established in 30 A.D. The pope is a god-appointed head of the church on the earth. The teachings and decrees of the pope as equal to the bible in authority. The church as the infallible interpreter of scripture. That tradition is equal to the bible in authority. Click to View Roman Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses are strikingly similar! Click to View Why I left the Roman Catholic church! ... The most important thing Roman Catholics must understand! Catholics believe that the theocratic organization of the church determines what doctrine will be taught and practiced. The Bible is just one of many sources of religious authority. The truth is that the church itself has no authority at all, but gets all its directives from the Bible alone. For a non-Catholic to charge the Roman Catholic church with false teaching is not comprehendible, for to a Catholic, doctrine is defined by the Organization. It ... ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-start.htm

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10 False distinctions between the 10 Commandments and the ceremonial ... Click to View 10 False distinctions between the 10 Commandments and the ceremonial law exposed! I. The ten commandments are abolished, Illustrations: Someone asked me, "Is it true you are a minister for a church and don't keep the ten commandments?" "That is right, I don't keep any of the 10 commandments." I replied. The person continued, "You mean ... II. The Sabbatarian false distinction they see in Col 1:14 and Eph 2:15: All Sabbatarians create a false and non-existent distinction within the law of Moses. They usually refer to this man-made distinction as: 1. ... Reproduced below is a chart every Sabbath keeper is familiar with. Problem is that it is completely unprovable with scripture. The only place this distinction exists is in the minds of Sabbatarians. How ... of the law of the Lord given by Moses" Moses gave the 10 commandments: "For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother'" Mk 7:9-10 When you read the 10 commandments, you "read Moses": 2 Corinthians 3:3,15 ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-2laws.htm

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King Jeroboam tel dan high place altar 1340-723 BC. They're Digging ... ... While every single kings of Israel was wicked WITHOUT EXCEPTION, scripture always points out the cause and effect, which traces itself ... They ask him for a blessing and they are granted success from YHWH. d. The spies view Laish (city of Dan) and return with confidence that they ... And his comrades said, "Thus you will speak to the people, saying, 'My smallness is thicker than the loins of my father; my father chastised ... preserves traditions rejected in the development of mt ("an independent Northern tradition ... worked over by a Judean editor" [Gray, 311]?). ... years! (1340 BC - 723 BC) In the parable of the "Tares", Jesus warns of false religions that closely resemble pure New Testament Christianity. ... King Henry 8th banished all the Roman Catholic priests from England in 1536 AD and set up his own priesthood known at the Anglican church. ... The sin that is most frequently warned against in the New Testament is not adultery, lying or anger... it is false doctrine! We are warned ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-tel-dan-laish-leshem-micah-Jonathan-jeroboams-king-of-israel-high-place-altar-temple-1340-723bc.htm

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Textbook of Disturbances of Mental Life, Johann Christian August ... ... Click to View Click to View Textbook of Disturbances of Mental Life or the Disturbances of the Soul and Their Treatment, Johann Christian ... It is only through reason that we can reach God. (No man can come to the Father save through Me.) Whoever fails to use this highest sense ... He also believes that a doctors qualifications include all the skill and knowledge of a minister of a church. In Heinroth's case, this was ... Whoever does not live in light lives in darkness (and a deceptive light, say, the light of a false philosophy, is also darkness), and it is ... But how can he do this if he himself does not live in light? It is necessary to sharply emphasize this point of view of the doctor of the ... What we refer to as body is only the outward manifestation of the ego or of the soul, expressed and existing in spatial form, unconsciously ... But a blind acceptance of the Christian doctrine is not enough; it is not sufficient to adopt the doctrine and remain otherwise unchanged. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/textbook-of-disturbances-of-mental-life-or-the-disturbances-of-the-soul-and-their-treatment-johann-christian-august-heinroth-1818ad.htm

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Irrefutable questions that Roman Catholics can't answer Irrefutable questions that Roman Catholics and Orthodox can't answer Click to View Click to View "Roman Catholic Examined" Home Page Click to View "Orthodox Church Examined" Home Page Click to View Return to "Canon of the Bible" Home Page Questions for Catholics and Orthodox: If the Roman Catholic church gave the world the Bible, being infallible, then why did Rome reject or question the inspiration of James and Hebrews , then later accept it? Conversely, Rome accepted as scripture books that were later rejected. If the Catholic church really is illuminated by the Holy Spirit so that men can trust her as ... If both the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches make the same claim they gave the world the Bible, why do they have different books in each of their Bibles? Whose "church authority" shall we believe? Whose tradition is the one we should follow? Provide a single example of a doctrine that originates from an oral Apostolic Tradition that the Bible is silent about? Provide proof ... ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-questions.htm

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Eternal torment proved ... annihilation refuted Ex 3:2 And to God, who can do all things! Click to View Burning Bush What hell is not: Dante's hell Click to View Annihilationists like to refute this false concept of hell invented by an antagonist named "Dante". When Annihilationists refute this concept of hell, Bible believers wonder what the point is? Their false doctrine of annihilation is not proved right, just because they prove Dante's equally false concept of hell ... It is the body that will be made immortal, not the soul! "The real issue between Dualists and Annihilationists is nothing other than this: Does Scripture teach that the wicked will be made immortal for the purpose of suffering endless ... A loving God wouldn't torment forever his creation A loving God will torment forever his creation Our God is a loving, merciful Father who does not want to consign anyone to that fate. (What Happens After Death?, United Church of God, an International Association) "The verse ... Rev 20:10 ... indicates that the devil is to be ... ... https://www.bible.ca/su-annihilation-refuted.htm

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John Calvin: Commentary On The Gospel According To John (Translated ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Jehovah's Witnesses create a false dilemma in an effort to prove their interpretation of John 10:30. They try to project the idea that if Jesus was not teaching He was "made of the same stuff as the Father", then he was a creature. In fact, the passage clearly proves Jesus was divine, ... Calvin even mentions the Arians, who were forerunners of Jehovah's Witnesses that first conceived their false doctrine in 300AD. What they left out of the quote: They argue therefore that Christ is a blasphemer ... was addressed, and Scripture cannot, be broken, 36. Do you say that I, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, blaspheme, because I said, I am the Son of God? 31. Then the Jews again took up stones. ... In short, let us know that magistrates are called gods, because God has given them authority. Under the term Law, Christ includes the whole doctrine by which God governed his ancient Church; for since the prophets ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Calvin.htm

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Conscious life after death proven from the Bible Click to View False teachers of Extinction: Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Seventh-day Adventists, Herbert W. Armstrong/plain truth magazine. Two views of the state of the dead: Bible Truth False doctrine: Extinction Bible's view of the dead The irrefutable view defended at this website (www.bible.ca) False doctrine regarding the state of the dead (Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Seventh-day Adventists, Herbert W. Armstrong, WCG) When a man dies, his body ... The Inner man: Extinctionists wrongly believe man is wholly physical! The New Testament authors clearly believed that man had a dual nature. They refer to the body as "the outer man" and the soul/spirit as the "inner man" in such places as Rom. 7:22 and Eph. ... The state of the dead is identical for righteous and wicked as taught by Extinctionists: Jehovah's Witnesses (Jw's), Christadelphians, Seventh-day Adventists (SDA), Herbert W. Armstrong: Worldwide Church of God (WCG). But the Bible clearly indicates that there ... ... https://www.bible.ca/su-conscious-life-after-death.htm

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On hallucinations: a History and Explanation, Alexandre J. F ... On hallucinations: a History and Explanation Alexandre J. F. Brierre De Boismont (Doctor) 1859 AD Click to View Click to View Click to View ... interest the mental condition of Mademoiselle Claire. Her letters informed us that she had been to church, and that she felt quite well. ... In a medical point of view, the nervous and circulatory systems undoubtedly perform a very important part in the production of hallucinations ... His cotemporary, Dr. Richard Napier, the father of the well-known inventor of logarithms, believed that he received most of his prescriptions ... wicked men for their own covetous purposes, and in order, by these false accusations and forced confessions, to destroy the life, fame, and ... Ought we always to refer to the influence of mysticism, and to regard as hallucinations of sight and hearing, events which seem to have been ... otherwise would be to reject the authority of Scripture.* * Ferriar: Opus cit. p. 100. De Apparilionibut Mortuorvm oivis et fiaeto fnctit. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/on-hallucinations-a-history-and-explanation-alexandre-j-f-brierre-de-boismont-1859ad.htm

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Scripture contains a pattern that must to be followed. The Apostolic fathers viewed Scripture as containing a complete pattern that must to be followed. Go to: "Canon of the Bible" Home Page The Apostolic fathers viewed Scripture as containing a ... of following scripture so closely that you view it as a mold or form, that we are to duplicate morally and doctrinally in our lives. Roman Catholics and Othodox leaders are anti-patternist. They refuse to allow the Bible to govern their lives. They feel that man-made church tradition can change the Bible. They fell the Bible is not a pattern or form to be followed. Earliest Christians, however, are at variance with Roman Catholics and Othodox leaders, because the earliest Christians viewed scripture as a pattern to be followed exactly. They quoted the New Testament to prove their doctrine correct. ... in Biblical Literature and Its Implications for Canon Formation, p 467, 2002) By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scripture-pattern.htm

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Lamson, Alvan: The Church of the First Three Centuries Lamson, Alvan: The Church of the First Three Centuries Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries: "The modern popular doctrine of the Trinity . . . derives no support from the language of Justin [Martyr]: and this observation may be extended to all the ante-Nicene Fathers; that is, to all Christian writers for three centuries after the birth of Christ. It is true, they speak of the Father, Son, and . . . ... Our comment The watchtower gives the false impression that Lamson is saying that the Ante-Nicene Fathers didn't teach trinity. The key phrase at the beginning of the quote is "The modern popular doctrine of the Trinity ... derives no support ... from Justin..." Well Trinitarians actually agree! The developed 12th century "Athanasius creed" version of trinity doctrine is not found in scripture, but that is not the issue. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Lamson.htm

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Scientology is anti-Christian, Satanic and Neo-Gnostic? Hear it in Hubbard's own words: Origin of Christianity: There was no Christ The Creator and God Man has no soul; Christianity is false Christ Game and Christ had a good "implant" Reincarnation The Church Bible Prophesy Christian Love Poverty Click to View Comparison between Christianity and Scientology Teachings Click to View Scientology ... While it may be true that some cults with Christian backgrounds use mind control, it is untrue that the Christian Church in general and as a matter of doctrine uses mind control. In typical fashion, Hubbard accuses ... But never mind - you aren't either. That guy is GONE (I hope!)", HCO BULLETIN OF MAY 11, AD1963 Commentary by Perry Scott: The Pearly Gates refer to the Helatrobus Implants. See "Hubbard on Heaven". According to ... Interviewer: "The devil?" Ron Jr: "Yes. Aleister Crowley thought of himself as such. And when Crowley died in 1947 my father then decided that he should wear the cloak of the beast; and become the most powerful being ... ... https://www.bible.ca/scientology-christianity-compared.htm

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Statistics of Religion in North America Statistics of Religion in North America Click to View Profile of the public Attendance is menu option everyone expects to go to heaven Balance scale salvation Salvation by works: good outweighs bad Doing the absolute minimum to be ... Strong church social ties Few church social ties Steeped in False doctrine Superficial belief system Hard to teach truth Easy to teach truth the religious cafeteria junky Asked of the 75% who don't attend weekly: "Some observers maintain that few people are actually abandoning their religious traditions. Rather, they draw selective beliefs and practices, even if they do not attend services frequently. They are not about to be recruited by other religious groups. Their identification with their religious tradition is ... Ordination of Practicing Homosexuals 1 Cor 6:9-10 Pre-Marital Sex Permitted Heb 13:4 Woman Preaching in Pulpit 2 Tim 2:2 Emasculate God (father to person) Deut 4:2 Church Membership by yearly $$$ Heb 10:25 Every Social Program Under ... ... https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-stats.htm

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Dunn, James D. G.: Christology in the Making, 2nd edition, 1989 Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter For JW's it is deceptive quoting. For Christadelphians it is self-quoting. Dunn, with his Christadelphian-like logos theology, labels Jw Christology as ... A wide variety of quotes are used by anti-Trinitarians that are supposed to prove trinity is a false doctrine What they fail to tell the same article also says: Dunn rejects the deity of Christ: "So too ... Likewise if we assume that the Father/Son language of John's Gospel has in view more the relationship between the Father and the Son (of Nicene and post-Nicene concern) than the continuity of Logos ... 3. logos-theology of Christadelphians, 4. Modalism of United Pentecostal church UPCI. We side with Dunn in his view that parallels don't automatically imply that one originated from the other. ... Of course such a claim is just as ridiculous as Dunn's view that Trinity is false doctrine. When anti-Trinitarians quote from Dunn to prove that trinity is not found in scripture, it is dishonest ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Dunn.htm

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Ellen G. White found guilty of plagiarism (copying) Click to View Ellen G. White Prophet? or Plagiarist! The White Lie! By Walter T. Rea Click to View Order Walter Rea's book: "The White Lie" White copied The Great Controversy from Life Incidents! This is the single most incredible fact that shows Ellen G. White to be a false prophet and a deluded plagiarist: In a nutshell: The Great Controversy contains the pillars and foundation of Adventist theology. White copied these key doctrine in the Great Controversy from books ... We suggest that White step down and let Andrews take her place as the single most influential sources of doctrine in the SDA church! Here is what Walter Rea says in his ... to lay aside all preconceived opinions, and dispensmg with commentaries, he compared scripture with scripture by the aid of the marginal references and the concordance. ... So did Christ plead His blood before the Father in behalf of sinners, and present before Him also, with the precious fragrance of His own righteousness, the prayers of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-WL-exhibits-Great-Contro.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 17:3 Conversely, Jesus is called the "Only Teacher, (Matt 23:8,10, Mt 10:24 and Jn 13:13), "Only Master" (Jude 4, 2 Peter 2:1), and "Only Lord" (Jude 4, Eph 4:4, 1 Cor 8:4,6, Mt 6:24). If John 17:3 excludes Jesus from being "True God", then the Father is also excluded from being our Teacher, Master or Lord. Click to View False Arian argument stated: It is obvious that Jesus and the ... Jesus is called true God in 1 John 5:20. This proves Jesus is not excluded from John 17:3. In addition to this, Jesus is called "true" dozens of times in scripture! (Rev 3:7) We agree that Jesus and the Father are two distinct persons. Arians do not understand the difference between Trinity and Modalism. ... Yet such language did not exclude Jesus Christ from also being that Rock: 1 Corinthians 10:4 all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ. Jesus is the corner stone in the church!: 1 Pet 2:6ff Conclusion: If we excluded Jesus ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john17-3.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8 ... This is false doctrine and heresy. Hebrews 1:5 proves Jehovah's Witnesses false teachers when they say Jesus is an angel: "For to which of the angels did He ever say, "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him And He shall be a Son to Me"? " (Hebrews 1:5) Of course the answer is rhetorical: God never said to any angels "Today I have begotten You". But he did say this to Jesus. Therefore Jesus cannot be an angel, but we begotten at his resurrection as Acts 13:33 says, thereby fulfilling Ps 2:7. The self contradictory doctrine of the Watchtower has Jesus the creature, functioning as our co-creator ... Jesus cannot be creator and creature at the same time! V. The apostolic Fathers unanimously taught that the "Us" in Gen 1:26, refers to the trinity: Click to View More trinity quotes from the apostolic Fathers 74 AD Epistle of Barnabas: "For the Scripture says concerning us, while He speaks to the Son, "Let Us make man after Our image, and after ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-genesis1-26.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 5:18 For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. Click to View The irrefutable argument ... Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals: Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 "Another scripture offered as support for the Trinity is John 5:18. It says that the Jews (as at John 10:31-36) wanted to kill Jesus because "he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God." But who said that Jesus was making himself equal to God? Not Jesus. He defended himself against this false ... Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #3: It is argued that the Jews accused Jesus of merely breaking Jewish legal tradition in the 39 articles of the "Mishnah, Shabboth", not the actual law of the ... It is important to note that we can consistently and powerfully argue that "situation moral ethics" is a false doctrine, while arguing that Jesus was able to break the sabbath without sin. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john5-18.htm

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Dates: When did the apostolic fathers live? Click to View History of Christianity Home Page with Power search Click to View When did the Apostolic Fathers and Apologists live? Click to View Who Date Comments Clement (Rome) d110 w81/101 Presbyter at Rome 80-98 Wrote: letter to the Corinthians Polycarp (Symrna) b69/70-d150/155 w130 Taught Irenaeus Was a disciple of John Didache w70-110 Didache means "Teaching" A reference book on moral precepts, instructions on organization of church communities, how to worship and contains the ... Born in Caesarea Origen Alexandria b185-d253/254 Born in Egypt A student of Clement presbyter allegorical method of scripture interpretation developed the idea of Christ as Logos or Incarnate Word Hippolytus Rome b170-d236 ... Played a prominent role in the theological struggle in the Council of Nicea (325) Opposed Arius (256-336) who maintained that the Son was of a different substance from that of the Father, and was merely a creature Formulated the "homousian doctrine" that the Son of God is the same ... ... https://www.bible.ca/indexHistory-fathers.htm

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Commentary on what the early Christians believed about the Trinity Apostolic Fathers, Apologists, Nicene Era, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Origen Apostolic Fathers B. Old Testament.-The early Fathers ... above all declared by Moses, and the twofold personality (of Father and Son) is strenuously asserted by the Prophets. The Trinity is made known by the Gospel" (The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1912, Vol. 15, p 47-49) "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the OT. ...In many places of the OT, however, expressions are used in which some of the Fathers of the Church saw references or foreshadowings of the Trinity. ... ... This view. if compared with later theology and dogma, will smack of a sub-ordination or 'minoration' of the Son of God. This subordination of ... Arians willingly recited these affirmations but read into them their own meaning. To preclude this Arian abuse of the Scripture affirmations ... the Son a creature and an adopted son of God. (The Triune God, Edmund Fortman, p59-61) By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-apostolic-fathers.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: 58 Triadic Bible Texts Trinity Proof Texts: 58 Triadic Bible Texts Click to View 58 Triadic Bible Texts Here are a collection of texts that prove the concept of the trinity, is clearly ... Click to View A refutation of Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals to this material. Click to View Use this material as an interactive Bible class in church! Analysis of ... God also testifying salvation first spoken through the Lord gifts of the Holy Spirit Romans 8:14-17 Abba! Father!" fellow heirs with Christ Spirit Himself testifies ... you with the Spirit and works miracles among you" Galatians 3:14: "The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith ... in order that in ... Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 "Your triadic passages are based upon the assumption that the doctrine of a triune Godhead is true. The mere mention of these names we ... Leave the sections blank and read each one aloud, while the members fill in what parts of each text refer to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Here is a ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-text-triadic.htm

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Official creed of Mennonite Brethren It also describes the distinctives of our faith, in which our understanding of Scripture differs from that of other Christian denominations. basis ... 17:21; Philippians 3:16). means of defense against false accusations and heretical movements. It thus has an apologetic function and can aid the brotherhood in the preservation of biblical doctrine and a Christian ethic. instrument of education, clarifying and strengthening the convictions of the members of the church, and introducing others not belonging to our brotherhood to our faith and practice. ... Numerous confessions in the Anabaptist tradition were used in the preparation of the first Mennonite Brethren Confession of Faith. A confession ... This one and only eternal God has revealed Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Father We believe in God the Father, who created all ... 1:11; 1 Cor. 15:21-58; Phil. 1:21-24; 1 Thess. 4:16-17; Tit. 2:11-14; 2 Pet. 3:3-13; Rev. 1:15, 20-22 Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-men-brethr.htm

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Newman, John Henry: Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian It is deceptive to deliberately misrepresent Newman to say that trinity is pagan origin, when in the same breath ... "Let us allow that the whole circle of doctrines, of which our Lord is the subject, was consistently and uniformly confessed by the Primitive Church . . . But it surely is otherwise with the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity. I do not see in what ... Whether we betake ourselves to the Antenicene writers or the Nicene, certain texts will meet us, which do not obviously refer to that doctrine, yet are put forward as palmary proofs of ... But under no circumstance, would Newman say that an element of Christian doctrine was actually adopted from the pagans WITHOUT divine approval of some type or shadow in scripture. Newman ... at least shall here be granted as true, that there is also a consensus in the Antenicene Church for the doctrines of our Lord's Consubstantiality and Coeternity with the Almighty Father. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Newman.htm

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Catholics wrong: Mary had many other children in addition to ... Mary had many other children in addition to Jesus Click to View Because these verses so clearly contradict Catholic doctrine, Catholic interpreters will insist these are cousins, kinsmen, or from a supposed earlier marriage of Joseph. Of course, the Bible proves all these things wrong. The Catechism gives this ridiculous and incorrect explanation: "The Church has always understood these ... The children are so clearly the offspring of the "Mary" of this passage, that the Pope has come to the conclusion is must be a different Mary! Incredible! Now read it for yourself from the scripture ... 49 And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, "Behold, My mother and My brothers! 50 "For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother." ... Mt 1:18 Can only refer to sex because "before they had sex she became pregnant" reinforces the virgin birth. But "before they began living together does not support the virgin birth". It was not ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-mary-had-many-children.htm

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Yes we can pray to Jesus! Prayer is simply talking to Jesus Click to View Praying to Jesus is scriptural: There are three ways to establish Bible authority: (Command, example and inference.) We are commanded to pray to Jesus: Jn 14:14; James 1:1-7; 1 Cor 1:2; Eph 5:19; Acts 8:22 We have apostolic examples of praying to Jesus: Rev 22:20, 2 Cor 12:7-9, Acts 7:54-60; Acts 8:24 We have necessary inferences of pray to Jesus: 1 Jn 5:11-15, Acts 1:24; Heb 7:25 Jesus is God, so we can pray to God the son, and God the Father. Paul wrote of Jesus ... Notice this closely: Paul entreated the LORD 3x Although Lord could refer to the Father, we notice that God is the normal term to refer to the Father and Lord is the ... Not if prayer is communication! Such a false distinction is proven to be false by Acts 16:25, where Lenski says, "the present participle and the imperfect verb express ... Christ is the Bishop of my soul(1 Peter 2:25), but I can't talk to my Bishop? Christ is the Bridegroom of the church (His bride)(2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:22-33, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/ntx-praying-to-jesus.htm

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Hastings, James: Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics Hastings, James: Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics Click to View Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings quoted in, Should you believe the ... with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus, constituting a divine family, like the Father, Mother, and Son in medieval Christian pictures. ... the Great Fetish. (c) What lends a special character to the Christian doctrine of the Trinity is its close association with the distinctive Christian view of divine incarnation." ... " As Augustine said, "if in the books of the ... "At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian . . . It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the N[ew] T[estament] and ... of the communion of the Holy Ghost; and the theologians of the ancient Church sought to set forth the Christian experience in logical terms of reason. ... In absolute deception, the Watchtower writers, who understands the difference between economic and ontological trinity, create a false dilemma in the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hastings.htm

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The Pattern of Congregational Benevolence in the New Testament The Pattern of Congregational Benevolence in the New Testament Introduction A. We will do two things in this study: 1. Identify each scripture in the NT that deals with benevolence 2. Look ... B. One church directly to another without intermediary organization like "missionary society" or "sponsoring church". Click on photo for high resolution: Click to View C. For the saints, not for non-Christians, without exception, ... James 1:27 This is pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father, to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world. 1 Tim 5:3-11 ... IV. Arguments and rebuttals A. False argument #1: Doesn't Jas 1:27 speak of temporary and emergency situations where treasury money can be used to support unbelieving widows? This would ... True Answer: All men in 2 Cor 9:12-13 MAY refer to non-Christians, but not necessarily. In fact the exact same expression "All men" or "to all" is used in Acts 2:45 but refers only to ... ... https://www.bible.ca/d-church-benevolence.htm

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The weekly Sabbath is abolished, being nailed to the cross! ... Adventists are oblivious to the true meaning of this verse and ascribe the exact opposite meaning to what Jesus intended. Click to View The first time any Jewish holy day is mentioned in scripture, it always lacks the definite article (a Sabbath). This powerful ... With the liberalizing and modernizing of the Adventist church, recent converts are either unaware, or unwilling to accept the current and historic position of their church! Does Daniel 7:25 prove Sabbath keepers are the mark of the beast? "He will make alterations in ... Click to View The seventh-day Adventist "prophet" Ellen G. White actually taught that the Sabbath is the most important of the 10 commandments above all others! She said the Sabbath law "glowed" brighter than all the rest! This is an example of how false doctrine gives birth to some wild ideas! Click to View Some over-zealous, but under-learned Sabbath keepers, will state the actual Greek words used in Acts 20:7 & 1 Cor 16:1 actually refer to the weekly ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbath.htm

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Apostate church organization: 588 - 606 AD: The final dog fight ... "I am over you", Gregory was saying, "we are equal", even though Gregory would readily make the false claim that he, not John, was a successor of Apostle Peter. Click to View Learn from the Bible Blueprint, how the church was organized by the apostles! Click to View Find a local congregation of the New Testament church that is organized exactly as the Bible says The ... is but one apostolic see, that of the prince of the apostles, which has acquired great authority; and that see is in three places, in Rome where he died, in Alexandria where it was founded by his disciple St. Mark, and in Antioch where he himself lived seven years. These three, therefore, are but one see, and on that one see sit three bishops, who are but one in Him Who said, I am in My Father, and you in Me, ... This author believes that they would." (James R. White, Answers to Catholic Claims, p 122, 1990) "The Reformers also discovered that tradition contradicted tradition. For example, the tradition of the Roman ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-588-606AD.htm

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Scriptural refutation of "eternal Security" Description After . Indicate Those Descriptions You Feel Do Not Refer To Christians But The Lost . Indicate Those You Feel Do Not Refer To The Lost, But To Christians Ezek 3:20; 18:24-26 righteous turns away, commits iniquity die in sin Mt ... Simon the sorcerer believed, baptized, received HS offered money heart not right, wickedness, gall of bitterness, bond of iniquity Acts 20:17,28-30 elders, shepherds of church false doctrine drawn away Rom 11:13-23 wild olive, grafted in v17, stand by faith ... Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son." 6 Moral Apostasy passages: 1 Timothy 6:9-10 "But those who want to get rich fall ... argue otherwise is nonsense and is a veiled form of existentialism C. The Bible clearly prophesied some would fall away: Acts 20:28; 1 Ti 4:1 D. Christians are to restore the fallen: Gal 6:1; Jas 5:19-20 Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cal-P-refutation.htm

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Official creed of Reformed Baptist church Reformed Baptist Church The Baptist Confession of Faith Billy Graham Click to View [4 minutes] (On Larry King Live, January 22, 1997) See video of Billy Graham saying he has ... Larry King: "You were preaching in his church (Pope) the day he was made pope." Billy Graham: "That is correct." Larry King: You like the Clintons. Billy Graham: I like the Clintons very much. Larry King: "You are a democrat" Billy Graham: "Yes." With Scripture Proofs Adopted by the Ministers and Messengers ... of the Holy Scriptures; and the heavenliness of the matter, the efficacy of the doctrine, and the majesty of the style, the consent of all the parts, the scope of the ... 5:12-14) 3.In this divine and infinite Being there are three subsistences, the Father, the Word or Son, and Holy Spirit, of one substance, power, and eternity, each ... Although temporary believers, and other unregenerate men, may vainly deceive themselves with false hopes and carnal presumptions of being in the favour of God and state ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-baptist-ref.htm

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Samuele Bacchiocchi, Seventh-day Adventist Historian Refuted ... The False claim that Roman Catholic Pope changed the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday is refuted! Three wrong guesses, you're out! The so called "inspired ... apostolic age (33 AD) through the time of Constantine (325AD). Constantine merely made the first "Sunday closure law", since it had already been the day Christians worship for 300 years! Today's guess #3: Christians in 135 AD. Click to View The historical claims of Samuele Bacchiocchi, Seventh-day Adventist, refuted. Bacchiocchi is likely the top Seventh-day Adventist historian in the world. His search for the origin of "first day worship" has led him to reject the traditional position of his church, and ... Derogatory discussions of the Jewish Sabbath do not usually refer to the Christian Sunday. If Sunday were a recent substitute for the Jewish Sabbath, we should ... which was already present in their own religious tradition." "Bacchiocchi here underestimates the resistance to pagan customs in second-century Christianity. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-Bacchiocchi.htm

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Bible Quiz: 100's of questions for Outdoor Fairs & Home Shows 100's of questions for Outdoor Fairs & Home Shows Click to View See also, how to build a Bible quiz Board! Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View ... True or False: Identify the Sin! × Living common law with a set wedding date. (Heb 13:4) × Working on the Sabbath day. (Col 2:16) × The recreational use of drugs ... value for resale. (1 Cor 6:10) × Missing a weekend family function to attend church. (Heb 13:4) × A Homosexual relationship. (Lev 18:22; Rom 1:26) × Parental ... When was Charismatic "Slain in the Spirit" first practiced? When were priests first prohibited from marrying? When was "the rapture" doctrine first taught? When did ... Who does the New Testament identify as the actual creator of the universe? The Father The Holy Spirit Jesus Christ Supporting Bible Verses: Colossians 1:16f; Heb ... Faith without works is dead. Here is part of a verse, see if you can complete the line. "All scripture... ... is hard to be understood." ... is given by inspiration ... ... https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-fairs-home-shows.htm

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30-150AD: Church organization the same as in the Bible Blueprint ... Click to View 30-150 AD: The period of the Eldership/Presbytery with autonomous local churches: Congregational oligarchy Click to View Learn from the Bible Blueprint, how the church was organized by the apostles! A. Our comments and ... This is evident from the following passage from Titus 1:5-7." (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 156) This proves false, the Catholic and Orthodox claim of being the apostolic church. C. What Scholars say about the period of 33 A.D. - ... Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus saith the Scripture in a certain place, "I will appoint their bishops in righteousness, and their deacons in faith." ... The oldest tradition is that given by Irenaeus (Adv. Hoer. III. 3. 3) and followed here by Eusebius, according to which the order was Linus, Anencletus, Clement. Hippolytus gives a different order, in which he is followed by many ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-33-150AD.htm

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Seventh-day Adventist view Ellen G. White as an inspired prophet Seventh-day Adventists They alone view Ellen G. White as an inspired prophet! Click to View Discussion: Younger, newer, recently converted, Seventh-day Adventists often notify us ... The current official is actually identical to what it has always been, as you will see below in the 1997 baptismal vows and church doctrines. But they are now making statements like: "White's writings are not a replacement of the Bible. Our standard for doctrine is the Bible only!" Such statements ... "At this time (20th century) the special endowment of the divine grace and power is not less needful to the church than in the apostolic day. Through the illumination of ... TESTAMENT. AS I COMPARED HER INTERPRETATIONS in Patriarchs and Prophets with Scripture, I FOUND THEM MUCH MORE UNDERSTANDABLE THAN THE BARE OLD TESTAMENT NARRATIVES...I ... MOVING OUT Unit 4 p. 115 Click to View Ellen G. White was a false prophet: Colossians 2:18 "Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by... taking his (her) stand on ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-WhiteInspire.htm

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Earliest evidence for the New Testament canon ... Although the titles are not inspired, the fact that all the manuscripts employ the same titles for each book, strongly argues for an early and unified canon of scripture. c. "In view of the unanimity on this point of the tradition of the Church which can be traced back to the beginning of the second ... The Earliest Christians described their writings as "the New Testament". Since the expression "the New Testament" is used many times within the Bible itself, this proves that the apostolic writings were clearly intended to be ... III. Roman Catholic and Orthodox confuse the issue: 1. False claims by Catholic and Orthodox church leaders like James Bernstein: "The second big surprise came when I realized that the first complete listing of New Testament ... books, were questioned. Even so, these 5 books were still being used in churches throughout the world from 100 AD. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-earliest-evidence.htm

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Difficult Questions for Mormons to answer The Mormon Church The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints Click to View Difficult Questions for Mormons Click to View Click to View Close-up of the golden Nephi Plates that were allegedly written ... Mormon, please read the Bible cover to cover and ask God to reveal to you that it contains all of God's message to man and that parts are not lost or altered and that the Book of Mormon is false?" ... How can a man who is not a descendant of Aaron hold the Aaronic Priesthood? (Numbers 16:40; Heb. 7:13,14). Since Mormonism teaches that only God the Father had a physical body at the time Adam was ... Book of Mormon prophecies of Christ specific / Bible prophecies veiled (actually non-existent unless scripture misquoted or "prophecies" stretched to have two meanings). Book of Mormon Christ is ... Why is polygamy condemned in the Book of Mormon, but condoned in the D&C and still believed to be necessary in church doctrine for exaltation in the after-life? Where are such doctrines as a man ... ... https://www.bible.ca/mor-questions.htm

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Comparison list of 75 Joseph/Christ Shadows, Types, Antitypes ... ... Jesus was truly sinless. silent Isa 53:9; 1 Pet 2:22; 2 Cor 5:21 32. Suffered for another’s sin (false accusation) Gen 39:20 1 Pe 1:21-24 33. Confined in jail/custody, thrown into a pit ... Jesus broke 7 seals that caused famine and death. Gen 41:42 Rev 6:1 45. Both had priestly connections: Joseph married Asenath whose father was a priest of On. Christ = Melchizedek Gen 41:45,50 ... Click to View List of 14 similarities of Joshua as a type of Christ Click to View List of 13 similarities the Jewish temple was a type of the Church Click to View List of 15 similarities of Abraham as a type of ... It is hypocritical because modern rabbis go much further than their first century brethren in making strained and unbiblical connections between scripture and modern Jewish practice. iii. Modern ... Jesus condemned this kind of rule making in Mt 23; Mk 7:7-9; "Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, “Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/d-bible-archeology-maps-timeline-chronology-Joseph-types-Christ-Shadows-Antitypes-similarities-comparisons-2166-1876BC.htm

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Official creed of the Lutheran church; 95 Theses or 95 Articles ... LUTHERAN Click here to view: 95 Theses or 95 Articles of Martin Luther, 1517 AD The Augsburg Confession (1530): The Augsburg Confession is the first of the great Protestant Confessions. All orthodox Lutheran church bodies base their teachings upon this treatise because they believe that it is a faithful to ... of all things, visible and invisible; and yet there are three Persons, of the same essence and power, who also are coeternal, the Father the Son, and the Holy Ghost. ... And to the true unity of the Church it is enough to agree concerning the doctrine of the Gospel and the administration of the Sacraments. Nor is it necessary that human ... With souls in purgatory it seems necessary that horror should grow less and love increase. It seems unproved, either by reason or Scripture, that they are outside the ... furnish an occasion [for hating them]. Apostolic pardons are to be preached with caution, lest the people may falsely think them preferable to other good works of love. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-lutheran.htm

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Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet: "The origin of the ... in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, 1928, p136) The Church made a sacred day of Sunday ... "largely because it was the weekly festival of the sun; for it was a definite Christian policy to take over the pagan festivals endeared to the people by tradition, and to give them a Christian significance." (The ... 40 day temptation in wilderness is of pagan origin: p61 Earthquake at cross is false: p62 Jesus Crucifixion was a Jewish human sacrifice of pagan origin: p69,76 Jesus ... After reading the book it becomes clear that whenever Weigall shows "parallels" with Christian doctrine and paganism, what he is really saying, is that the doctrine is ... shrine in which the god Tammuz or Adonis was worshipped, as the early Christian Father, Jerome, tells us; and its adoption as the scene of the birth of our Lord was ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Weigall.htm

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Origin of Jewish/Christian holy days: Old Testament, Christmas ... Click to View 25 Dedication or Hanukkah 1 Macc 4:52f; Jn 10:22) Not instituted by God, but man made Jewish tradition. 10 - Tebeth Esth 2:16 Dec - Jan Rains with snow on high ground - 11 - Sebat ... ASCENSION DAY: Thursday, 40 days after Easter: Lord's ascension g. WHITSUNDAY or PENTECOST: Sunday, 50 days after Easter: birthday of church h. TRINITY SUNDAY: Sunday after Pentecost: dedicated to the "Trinity7 Click to View III. Origin of Christmas: A. The word "Christmas" comes ... The uncertainty of all the data discredits the computation. There is no historical evidence that our Lord's birthday was celebrated during the apostolic or postapostolic times. The uncertainty ... These three passages (1 Corinthians 8; 10:14-22; and 10:23-33) apply important principles of the doctrine of Christ to three situations which we also face in principle. Should we observe socially customs that are rooted in false religion? (1 Corinthians 8). Should we participate in false religion? (1 Corinthians ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/t-holy-days-origin-christmas-easter-halloween.htm

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Refuted: Anti-Trinitarians misuse these passages to prove the ... ... correct, the personification of the Holy Spirit is so complete and extensive in scripture, that we are without a guideline to determine the difference between persons and things. We would have to call into question, for example, the person hood of Abraham as the personification of the father of God's people. ... We know of none, therefore we are forced to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is a person. #2 Anti-Trinitarian Proof Text Refuted Click to View The Holy Spirit is directly ... John 6:39 Nothing more needs to be said, after quoting this one verse, but we must address each verse Arians misuse. Babies are called "it": We often use it to refer to ... This one point alone completely refutes their doctrine! It is common for one person to speak through another. In fact, when one person speaks through another, we ... This argument is utterly false, but what do you expect from a cult that can teach its "door to door book salesmen" anything and they will blindly accept it without ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-holy-spirit-arian-proof-texts-refuted.htm

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Official creed of The United Church of Canada Creed of... The United Church of Canada Click to View Bill Phipps Head of United church denies Resurrection of Christ! Interview with Bill Phipps, current ... Time for a new church: Click here to find assemblies of Christians who believe in Jesus' resurrection. 2003 church petitions Ottawa to change the definition ... of unity may in due time, so far as Canada is concerned, take shape in a Church which may fittingly be described as national. DOCTRINE 2.0 We, the representatives of the Presbyterian, Methodist, and ... We worship Him in the unity of the Godhead and the mystery of the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, three persons of the same ... Soul has to do with those very practical social justice issues. It always has in scripture and it certainly did with Jesus. That's why I said Jesus talked a ... And I don't think Jesus was that concerned about hell. I think we're concerned about life here. And the Jewish tradition wasn't that concerned about hell ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-united-Can.htm

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