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151: Memories Dreams Reflections, Carl Gastav Jung, 1961 AD
... It forces us to extend the term 'illness' beyond the idea of an individual body whose functions are disturbed, and to look upon the neurotic as a sick system of social relationships." (What Is Psychotherapy?, C. G. Jung, 1935 ... I explained to her, "Now I am going to tell you something that you may not be able to accept. Your grandfather was a zaddik. Your father became an apostate to the Jewish faith. He betrayed the secret and turned his back on God. And you have your neurosis because the fear of God has got into you." That struck her like ... If they are ena-bled to develop into more spacious personalities, the neurosis generally disappears. For that reason the idea of development was always of the highest importance to me. The majority of my patients consisted not ... Experi-ence is stripped of its substance, and instead mere names are substituted, which are henceforth put in the place of reality. No one has any obligations to a concept; that is what is so agree-able about conceptualityit ... ...
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152: THE PIRATES OF PRIVILEGE: Walter Rea Rocks the Seventh-day Adventist ...
... Whether her writings were inspired by God or not, these leaders repeatedly disregarded her specific counsels in regard to both the handling of the tithe monies and of the Church's investment practices ... Davenport connections and the Adventist church. He said: Davenport himself was born in Bakersfield, California, in 1913. His father was an Adventist doctor who had been a pioneer missionary to China. ... CHAPTER I FOOTNOTES 1. Noel Epstein, "Buying Post Offices is Profitable Ploy, Many Investors Find," The Wall Street Journal (February 15, 1968), Eastern Edition, p. 1. 2. Art Wong and James Nickles, ... When Walter Martin wrote The Kingdom of the Cults in the 1960s, his definition of a cult was very gentle. He said: By the term "cult" I mean nothing derogatory to any group so classified. A cult, as I ... A. Traditional dogmatic or authoritarian religions that place revelation, God, ritual, or creed above human needs and experience are not for us. B. Moral values derive from human experience. C. Reason ... ...
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153: Unreliability of Radiometric Dating and Old Age of the Earth
... Perhaps the earth was made from older pre-existing matter, or perhaps decay rates were briefly faster for some reason. When one considers the power of God, one sees that any such conclusions are to ... In the potassium/argon system another adjustable "constant" called the branching ratio is also not accurately known and is adjusted to give acceptable results. Argon-40, the daughter substance, makes ... Furthermore, it is at least possible that anomalies are under-reported in the literature. Finally, the overwhelming majority of measurements on the fossil bearing geologic column are all done using ... Age estimates on a given geological stratum by different radiometric methods are often quite different (sometimes by hundreds of millions of years). There is not absolutely reliable long-term ... Also, the Ural Mountains are on the eastern border of Europe, and the mountains of Africa are far to the east, having a similar effect. Of course, so much sediment entering the ocean would cause the ... ...
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154: Trinity proof texts: John 1:1
This verse is so simple it is impossible to get it wrong. An illustrated paraphrase of the text would be: "In the beginning was EVE, and EVE was with MAN, and EVE was MAN. SHE was in the beginning with MAN." Even adopting the Jehovah's Witnesses paraphrase, the New World Translation's, (NWT hereafter) unscholarly insertion of "a god" of the text makes no difference: "In the beginning was EVE, and EVE was with MAN, and EVE was a MAN. Just as "man" can refer specifically to male to the exclusion of female, So also God can refer to the Father to the exclusion of the Son. However, just as "man" can include both male and female as a class of being, (Gen 5:2 "He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them Man"), so too "God" can include both Father and Son as a class of being, as in John 1:1. Initial Comments: It is important to note that our position is the only position that defines the word "God" [theos] in John 1:1-2 with the identical definition throughout (God, as ... ...
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155: TRINTITY: 6 Different ontological views of God Examined and defined
Obviously, when we are speaking of the ontology of God, we are looking into the hidden spirit world for which we know nothing other than what the Bible tells us. The Bible doesn't really tell us much about how God is "built". We understand that humans have a body with bones etc., but the "metaphysical structure" of God is in fact outside our ability to know. The Bible, for example tells us that God is one, yet the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all called God, yet they are distinct. This has brought about numerous speculations about how we might "diagram God out on paper". We really have no right to inquire about things that God has not revealed. Duet 29:29. The Nicene creed, for example, tries to explain God in metaphysical terms. They debated whether Jesus had a divine or human spirit, whether Jesus was made up of the same "stuff" as the Father, or different "stuff". In fact they were trying to answer questions that went beyond what is revealed. We must therefore be content ... ...
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156: Trinity proof texts: Revelation 22:3
On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him; they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever." Click to View Another irrefutable argument! Jesus Is Worshipped (latreuo)! Joint co-worship of Father and Jesus A. To prove that "HIM" refers to both the Father and Son collectively, notice the pattern of referring to the Father and the Son as though they were one: The Father and the Son themselves are a single temple not two and with one light they shine, not two! Oh how this confuses Jehovah's Witnesses. 2 Cor 6:16 + Eph 2:21 = ... ...
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157: Official creed of the Methodist church
Articles of Religion p67. Section 3-Our doctrinal standards and general rules the articles of religion of the Methodist church Article I.-Of Faith in the Holy Trinity There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body or parts, of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things, both visible and invisible. And in unity of this Godhead there are three persons, of one substance, power, and eternity-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Article II.-Of the Word, or Son of God, Who Was Made Very Man The Son, who is the Word of the Father, the very and eternal God, of one substance with the Father, took man's nature in the womb of the blessed Virgin; so that two whole and perfect natures, that is to say, the Godhead and Manhood, were joined together in one person, never to be divided; whereof is one Christ, very God and very Man, who truly suffered, was crucified, dead, and buried, to reconcile his Father to us, and to be a sacrifice, not only for ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/cr-methodist.htm
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158: Trinity Proof Texts: 2 Corinthians 13:14 and Philippians 2:1 ...
What the verse is saying: Three different things are given to Christians by three different persons of the Godhead. This verse is so powerful in proving the Holy Spirit is a person, that anti-Trinitarians are at a loss what to do with it! They are forced into the most uncomfortable position of having to render the meaning of the verse as: " The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the sharing of electricity, be with you all." 2 Cor 13:14 and Mt 28:19 both prove the personality of the Holy Spirit. In both passages, there is a "person, person, person" sequence. (Father, Son, Spirit) Arians are forced into the most uncomfortable position of having to teach that both these passages follow a "person, person, thing" sequence. It just doesn't make sense to suggest that Paul is blessing them by saying, "May you be encouraged knowing that the person of God and Jesus and an the alkaline battery are with you!" 2 Cor 13:14 concludes with these important words: "be with you ... ...
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159: Anti-Trinity proof texts REFUTED: John 8:42
The same Greek word for "proceeded forth" (exerchomai) is used in both John 8:42 and Mk 5:8. Did the demons have their creation point in the man? Obviously not. So even if the actual meaning of John 8:42 was that Jesus came from inside the Father, it clearly doesn't mean that it was Jesus creation point any more than the demons from the man. But the expression "proceeded forth" in John 8:42 does not mean Jesus came from the Father as a source, but merely that the Father sent him forth. John 8:42 "If God were your Father, you would love Me; for I proceeded forth (exerchomai)and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me. Mk 5:8 For He had been saying to him, "Proceed forth (exerchomai) from the man, you unclean spirit!" But more importantly, the following verses will prove beyond any question, that the meaning of John 8:42 means nothing more than "Jesus came from the presence of the Father, being sent". John 17:8 "O righteous Father, although the ... ...
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160: Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 350 AD: Hilary of Poitiers
Here we see as late as 350 AD, the church realized that the word of God, not tradition, was the source of how to "understand the things of God". But now let us continue our reading of this Scripture, to shew how the consistency of truth is unaffected by these dishonest objections. (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 5, 9) Click to View Contrary to the claims of the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches, even after the Nicene creed, the church still used scripture as the primary force against the false doctrine of the Arians! "Having therefore held this faith from the beginning, and being resolved to hold it to the end in the sight of God and ... Or even simpler, "Be silent heretic, and read the Nicene creed for yourself!" "In order to solve as easily as possible this most difficult problem, we must first master the knowledge which the Divine Scriptures give of Father and of Son, that so we may speak with more precision, as dealing with familiar and accustomed matters." (Hilary of ... ...
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161: Trinity Proof Texts: Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8
B. There is no reason to suggest the plural pronoun is the "plural of Majesty", since both Jesus and the Father are described as having the same image. Click to View Click here for a full discussion of "plural of Majesty" III. Angels are not included in "Us" and "Our": A. Anti-Trinitarians claim that when God said, "Let US make man in OUR image". (Gen 1:26) he was speaking to angels. 1. Angels are not created in the image of God, only man. 2. If angels are included in "Let US make", then angels AND God are equally our creator. 3. Jehovah's Witnesses actually get this one right: The US includes (at least) the Father and Jesus in this creation. Jesus, being God, is the creator of all things: "All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. " John 1:3 IV. Christ cannot be the angel Michael the arch-angel: Jehovah's Witnesses are taught through their Watchtower, that Jesus is the created arch-angel named Michael. This is false ... ...
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162: Official creed of Vineyard Churches (AVC)
Upon further reflection, greater biblical insight, or increased wisdom through experience, these statements could be revised. Until such a time, the Association of Vineyard Churches Board of Directors has formally adopted this document as our official statement of faith as of the Board meeting of November 1994. The official Association of Vineyard Churches Statement of Faith reads as follows: WE BELIEVE that God is the Eternal King. He is an infinite unchangeable Spirit, perfect in holiness, wisdom, goodness, justice, power, and love. From all eternity He exists as the One Living and True God in three persons of one substance, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, equal in power and glory. WE BELIEVE that God's kingdom is everlasting. From His throne, through His Son, His eternal Word, God created, upholds, and governs all that exists, the heavenly places, the angelic hosts, the universe, the earth, every living thing and mankind. God created all things very good. WE BELIEVE that ... ...
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163: Bowman, Robert M.: Why You Should Believe In The Trinity
words as trinity, three persons, one substance, and the like." (Why You Should Believe In The Trinity, 1989, Robert M. Bowman Jr.) What they fail to tell the same book also says: That Bowman plainly says that the scriptures teach the deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. That Bowman is contrasting the undeveloped trinitarian beliefs of the apostles, (who believed in the deity of Christ but had not yet come to grips with the impact on the oneness of God issue) with the developed creedal explanations in Nicea 300 years later. Our comment Just because the Bible fails to "fully develop" trinity doctrine to the same extent as the Nicene fathers, doesn't mean that Jesus isn't God! The mistake of may people today is to go beyond the Bible in their trinity doctrine. We should reject the Nicene creed, not because it is in error, but because it speaks on matters where the Bible is silent and doesn't leave the "secret things to God". In other words, we should be content ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Bowman.htm
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164: Outrageous Claims Made For The Pope!
Outrageous Claims Made For The Pope! Not only are outlandish claims, such as those above, made regarding the authority of the pope, but he is addressed by various terms (Supreme Pontiff, Holy Father, etc.) which belong only to God. No such terms were given to a mere man in the holy Scriptures. The term "Holy Father" is used only once in God's word. It is used by Jesus in John 17:11 as He prayed to God the Father. For a mere man to assume the authority and titles which belong only to God, is surely the height of arrogance and blasphemy. ... of all the faithful, of Bishops, also and of all other prelates, be their station, rant, or power, what they may be." The Catholic book, "My Catholic Faith" which is based on the Baltimore Catechism, on page 251, says, "The Pope can make and unmake laws for the entire Church; his authority is supreme and unquestioned. Every bishop, every priest, every member of the Church is subject to him." By David J. Riggs Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ...
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165: Anti-Trinity Proof Texts Refuted: Galatians 4:14
... Yet Jesus' whole earth ministry was to be a servant to the Father and Jesus frequently told his listeners he was SENT from the Father to bring a message of salvation. (Matt 10:40; Jn 13:20) There is absolutely no difference between the word MESSENGER and SENT. But make no mistake about it, being sent, does not make one an angel in the ontological sense! (Men were also sent of God) "Gal 4:14 as proof text for the angelic nature of Christ is exceedingly weak and has absolutely no merit that I can see whatsoever. ... Evangelicals are not reticent to confess that God the Father sent Jesus into the world, and are even comfortable in the proper context and meaning to use the title "angel" with reference to Jesus. In the functional sense of "messenger," we certainly agree that Jesus can be called ANNGELOS. However, we must not equivocate from that truth and then argue that this warrants referring to Jesus as an "angel" in the ontological sense of a created spirit being. The Bible never ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-galatians4-14.htm
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166: Sola Scriptura debates between Christians vs. Orthodox/Catholics
Sola Scriptura: Sola Scriptura debates between Christians vs. Orthodox/Catholics Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Formal Public Debates Click to View The word of God is the sword of the Spirit! Click to View David Riggs, Christian, affirms that Sola Scriptura is God's way for man. Debate between David Riggs and Michael Lopez, (Catholic) Click to View Sola Scriptura debate charts by Pat Donahue Sola Scriptura debate challenge: Affirm: Sola Scriptura is a Bible doctrine and was practiced by the Apostolic Fathers. Deny: Extra-biblical oral tradition is not a Bible doctrine, and was not practiced by the Apostolic Fathers. Standing challenge to debate any Roman Catholic Priest or Bishop or the Pope, any time, any where, any way. Standing challenge to debate any Eastern Orthodox Father, Priest, Bishop, metropolitan Patriarch the Ecumenical Patriarch or any time, any where, any way. Contact Webservants by Steve Rudd Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ...
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167: Mormonism: God had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus
The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated together in the capacity of Husband and Wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father: we use the term lawful Wife, because it would be blasphemous in the highest degree to say that He overshadowed her or begat the Savior unlawfully. (Orson Pratt, The Seer, page 158) D. Joseph was Her Second Husband ... Third, spiritually he is also a son by virtue of his submission unto the will of the Father (Heb. 5:8). (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Vol.2, Jesus Christ, Names And Titles Of Son Of God.) Jesus was not the son of any mortal man. His biological father was God, the Father. As Son of God, Jesus represents the Father and acts as his agent in all things. (Joseph Fielding Smith, The Restoration of All Things, p.61) The Latter-day Saints unite with the people of every creed and tongue and ... ...
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168: Trinity proof texts: Isaiah 45:23-24 = Philippians 2:9-11
Isaiah 45:23-24: "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. They will say of Me, 'Only in the Lord are righteousness and strength.' Men will come to Him, And" all who were angry at Him shall be put to shame. Philippians 2:9-11: "Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Click to View The irrefutable argument stated: Isaiah 45:23-24 states that every knee shall bow to Jehovah and every tongue shall confess allegiance to Jehovah. Isaiah 45:23-24 is quoted and applied to the Father in Romans 14:9-12 and applied to the Son in Philippians 2:9-11 Therefore Jehovah is applied to both the Father and the Son. ... ...
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169: Watchtower Deceptions: Confusing Modalism as if it were trinity ...
What the average Jw's doesn't understand, is that Trinitarians apply the identical logic to refute Modalism. Here is something that is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT for the JW to understand. When a born again Christian points to Scriptures that demonstrate Jesus is God, THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER. Orthodox Trinitarians do not believe Jesus and the Father are the same Person though the WT repeatedly teaches its followers this is the case. When a JW shows a person that Jesus and ... But, of course, Reasoning from the Scriptures has no separate article on Modalism; so it places this irrelevant question in the Trinity article. Why? The Trinity vs. Modalism The article begins with the WT again trying to define the doctrine of the Trinity: Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-modalism.htm
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170: Trinity Proof Texts: 58 Triadic Bible Texts
Jude 20-21 love of God mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ praying in the Holy Spirit 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 always give thanks to God loved by the Lord , glory of our Lord Jesus Christ sanctification by the Spirit Romans 15:30 prayers to God urge you, brethren, by our Lord Jesus Christ love of the Spirit Interchangeability of "testifies": Hebrews 2:3-4 God also testifying salvation first spoken through the Lord gifts of the Holy Spirit Romans 8:14-17 Abba! Father!" fellow heirs with Christ Spirit Himself testifies Interchangeability of "fellowship": 1 Thessalonians 1:3-6: presence of our God and Father hope in our Lord Jesus Christ power and in the Holy Spirit ... joy of the Holy Spirit Isaiah 63:8-10 My people, sons angel of His presence Grieved His Holy Spirit 2 Corinthians 13:14 love of God grace of the Lord Jesus Christ fellowship of the Holy Spirit Interchangeability of "name": Text Father Son Holy Spirit Matthew 28:19 baptizing them in the name of the Father name of the Son name of ... ...
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171: International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ISBE)
Though "trinity" is a second-century term found nowhere in the Bible, and the Scriptures present no finished trinitarian statement, the NT does contain most of the building materials for later doctrine. In particular, while insisting on one God, it presents Jesus Christ as the divine Son in distinction from God the Father, and probably presents the Holy Spirit or Paraclete as a divine person distinct from both. Obvious problems admittedly attach to both claims; indeed, "person" as a trinitarian (threeness) term has itself been controversial since Augustine, and especially in the modem period. Still, the doctrine of the trinity does lie in Scripture "in solution" (B. B. Warfield, ISBE [1929], s.v.); i.e., the NT presents events, claims, practices, and problems from which church fathers crystallized the doctrine in succeeding centuries. A classic statement emerges in Augustine (De trin. v.8.9) and comes down the centuries as the 15th and 16th verses of the Athanasian Creed: (15) So the ... ...
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172: Subordination within the Godhead: Roles and Ranks
These false teachers use the fact that of Christ's subordination, to prove Jesus is not God, but a creature. They reason it is impossible for God to serve, and if He does, he ceases being God. Click to View Unitarian subordination refuted Click to View The Historical Development of "Arian style" (Jehovah's Witness) Subordination Athanasian Creed rejects ... And in this Trinity ... none is greater or less than another. But the whole three persons are ... coequal." While the vast majority of the "Athanasian Creed" is much closer to the Bible truth than the Arian view of Christ. Arian's, however, focus on this one small error in an effort to trash the whole of trinity Doctrine. Interestingly, both Roman Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses are guilty of the same error: Namely, they both believe that if Christ is subordinate to the Father, that he is less than God. So JW's emphasize the subordination of Christ in an effort to prove he is a creature and RC's empasize the deity of Christ and ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-subordination.htm
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173: Sola Scriptura: The Heretics even quoted scripture!
exposed their plan of belittling the Son under cover of magnifying the Father, the next step is to listen to the exact terms in which they express their own belief concerning the Son. For, since we have to answer in succession each of their allegations and to display on the evidence of Holy Scripture the impiety of their doctrines" (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 4, 11) Click to View Wow, we love this statement by Hilary! He sounds quite "un-Catholic" and rather "Protestant" in his scriptural "proof-texting" to refute the Arians! On every little point the Arians taught, Hilary proved them wrong, not from the Nicene Creed that was now 25 years old, but from the scriptures! "Such is their error, such their pestilent teaching; to support it they borrow the words of Scripture, perverting its meaning and using the ignorance of men as their opportunity of gaining credence for their lies. Yet it is certainly by these same words of God that we must come to understand the things ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-heretics-used-scripture.htm
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174: Metzger, Bruce M. and Coogan, Michael D., Editors; Daniel N. ...
What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "Because the Trinity is such an important part of later Christian doctrine, it is striking that the term does not appear in the NT. Likewise, the developed concept of three coequal partners in the Godhead found in later creedal formulations cannot be clearly detected with the confines of the canon. ... (Mt 28.19) ... Matthew records a special connection between God the Father and Jesus the Son but he falls short of claiming that Jesus is equal with God. ... it is important to avoid reading the Trinity into places here it does not appear." (pages ... Since the Christians have come to worship Jesus as a god (Pliny, Epistles 967), how can they claim to be continuing the rnonotheistic tradition of the God of Israel) Various answers are suggested, debated, and rejected as heretical, but the idea of a Trinity one God subsisting in three persons and one substance ultimately prevails. While the New Testament writers ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Metzger.htm
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175: Start here: Introduction and Overview to Sola Scriptura
... Click to View A list of Anti-sola Scriptura churches: All Roman Catholic family of churches All Eastern Greek Orthodox family of churches G. Beware of Pseudo-Sola Scriptura churches Click to View A list of Pseudo-Sola Scriptura churches: Any church that claims to speak in tongues. (Charismatics and Pentecostals Most TV preachers. Any church that believes in Evangelicals, Baptists All Reform churches, (Dutch Reformed, Christian Reformed, Classical Reformed) because they not only believe in personal illumination of the Holy Spirit, but also accept the Nicene creed as inspired. All Calvinist churches that adhere to John Calvin. (personal illumination of the Holy Spirit) H. ... "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings published by the Watchtower Society (Watchtower magazine) should be the thing that satisfies, that convinces, together with a comparison of these things with the inspired Word of God, the Holy Scriptures." (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1959, p. ... ...
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176: The Apostolic Fathers believed man-made creeds were tradition ...
... By 325 AD, this trend produced the first creed that was viewed with equal authority with the Bible itself: The Nicene creed. These creeds early on, were memorized by sinners before being baptized. Notice that they were originally not written, but represented a verbal tradition based directly upon the words and writings of the inspired apostles. Irenaeus 180 AD Tertullian 200 AD "believing in one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, and all things therein, by means of Christ Jesus, the Son of God; who, because of His surpassing love towards His creation, condescended to be born of the virgin, He Himself uniting man through Himself to God, and having suffered under Pontius Pilate, and rising again, and having been received up in splendour, shall come in glory, the Saviour of those who are saved, and the Judge of those who are judged, and sending into eternal fire those who transform the truth, and despise His Father and His advent." (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, book 3, 4, 1-2) "there is ... ...
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177: Trinity proof texts: Mark 2:7
... In fact, we can forgive someone of sin as humans, and they are still counted as lost by God for that same sin! Taken to its logical conclusion, we are able to grant God's forgiveness of another by virtue of us merely forgiving them on a human level. Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #4 Jesus power to forgive sins was given to him from God proving that it was not inherent in Him and therefore not God. Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal refuted One of the biggest deceptions that anti-Trinitarians use to prove Jesus was a creature, is to say that because his authority was derived while on earth, that he is not God. But such a view completely misses the grand theme of "glory - servant - glory" that Jesus underwent by coming to earth... the incarnation. Jesus relinquished all his inherent rights, and took orders from the Father. If an army commander, with inherent power, decides to personally to take orders from a private in the army for a day by agreement, it doesn't change the rank of the private or the ... ...
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178: Was Peter the first Pope?
many arguments against papal infallibility, was said by Bishop Joseph Strossmayer in his speech before the Vatican Council in 1870). "It has now become quite clear that the conception of continuity, authority, infallibility of the Church and the Church's teaching, on which there has not been sufficient reflection, has led the Catholic Church into a dangerous tight corner." (This, alone with other doubts regarding papal infallibility, was said by Hans Kung, a prominent Catholic theologian, in his book, "Infallibility, An Inquiry," 1971). Click to View Was The Apostle Peter A Pope? In the books of men, the following titles are commonly used with reference to a man: "Pope," "Holy Father," "Vicar of Christ," "Sovereign Pontiff." All of these are titles that rightly belong only to the Lord Jesus Christ and to God the Father. There is not a single instance in the Scriptures where any of the above titles are applied to a man. The term, "Holy Father" is used only once in the entire Bible, and ... ...
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179: Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 425 AD: Augustine
And when ye have received it, write it in your heart, and be daily saying it to yourselves; ... For this is the Creed which ye are to rehearse and to repeat in answer. These words which ye have heard are in the Divine Scriptures scattered up and down: but thence gathered and reduced into one, that the memory of slow persons might not be distressed; that every person may be able to say, able to hold, what he believes. For have ye now merely heard that God is Almighty? But ye begin to have him for your father, when ye have been born by the church as your Mother. (Augustine, On the Nicene Creed: a Sermon to the Catechumens, 1) Click to View Augustine, like all the fathers, believed that every phrase in the Nicene creed had its origin in the scripture, not some "unwritten oral tradition of the apostles". He calls the creed, "Rule of Faith" which was first used by Tertullian in 200 AD. The age of creed making is in full bloom! Today, every major denomination, including the Catholic and ... ...
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180: Official creed of the Presbyterian Church
... In his sight all things are open and manifest; his knowledge is infinite, infallible, and independent upon the creature; so as nothing is to him contingent or uncertain. He is most holy in all his counsels, in all his works, and in all his commands. To him is due from angels and men, and every other creature, whatsoever worship, service, or obedience he is pleased to require of them. [6.013] 3. In the unity of the Godhead there be three Persons of one substance, power, and eternity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. The Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding; the Son is eternall begotten of the Father; the Holy Ghost eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son. Chapter III Of God's Eternal Decrees [6.014] 1. God from all eternity did by the most and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so as thereby neither is God the author of sin; nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, nor is the ... ...
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181: McClintock and Strong: Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and ...
McClintock and Strong: Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature Click to View How the Watchtower quoted the source: "Matthew 28:19 reads: "Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, and eternity? No, they do not, no more than listing three people, such as Tom, Dick, and Harry, means that they are three in one. This type of reference, ... Thomas probably remembered what Jesus bad often said respecting his. superhuman origin (v, 8,10,17). and he now saw it all confirmed by his resurrection from the dead. Phil 2:6-11 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." There it is said of Christ that he is [Greek]; not [Greek] terms applied by Homer to kings and heroes. The term [Greek], on the contrary, is never applied to ... ...
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182: McKenzie, John L.: Dictionary of the Bible
... The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of "person" and "nature" which are Gk philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as "essence" and "substance" were erroneously ... Our comment When McKenzie says "Jn 1:1 should rigorously be translated "the word was with the God [= the Father], and the word was a divine being."", he is saying that "the word was with a divine being (Father) and the word was a divine being". or "the word was with a God (Father) and the word was a God" This rendering is really no problem ... On the application of the name of Spirit to the Son in the Pauline writings Cf SPIRIT. The unity of nature does not appear as a problem in the Bible, and indeed could only arise when a philosophical investigation of the term nature as applied to God was begun. In the NT the Father is "the God" (Gk ho theos), and Jesus is "the ... ...
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183: Storr, G. C. & Flatt: Biblical Theology
S. S. Schmucker, trans., p. 301, as quoted by: The Way International, Victor Paul Wierwille) Luther was uneasy with the term trinity, not the idea of Trinity, for Luther most certainly always was a trinitarian: "On the words persona, (etc. ). . . . Much has been said, about the time of the Reformation, concerning the tendency of these terms to lead to tritheism; and among the advocates for their expulsion from ... Our comment: A closer look at Storr's words reveals that Luther did not disagree with the Trinity, but was afraid of the words, or theological terminology such as the Latin word "person" (persona), which might imply tritheism instead of trinity. Luther's hesitation is exactly that of many who signed the Nicene creed. It was not that they questioned if Jesus was a creature, but that they felt the words used to convey the ontological relationship between God and Jesus were inadequate. Deception Exposed: Wierwille deceptively leaves the impression that Luther was a closet ... ...
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184: Wells, H.G.: Short History of the World
Council of Nicaea, which forcibly crystallised the controversies of two centuries and formulated the creed upon which all the existing Christian churches are based, was one of the most disastrous and one of the least venerable of all religious gatherings. ... The systematic destruction by the orthodox of all heretical writings, had about it none of that quality of honest conviction which comes to those who have a real knowledge of God; it was a bawling down of dissentions that, left to work themselves out, would have spoiled good business. ... A large majority of those who possess and repeat the Christian creeds have come into the practice so insensibly from unthinking childhood that only in the ... By faith we said of that stuffed scarecrow of divinity, that incoherent accumulation of antique theological notions, the Nicene deity, 'This is certainly no God.'" (God the Invisible King, H. G. Wells, as quoted by anti-Trinitarians) What they fail to tell the same article also says: ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Wells.htm
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185: Werner, Martin: The Formation of Christian Dogma
And the most decisive Subordinationist of the New Testament, according to the Synoptic record, was Jesus himself (cf. for example Mk. x, 18; xiii, 32; xiv, 36). This original position, firm and manifest as it was, was able to maintain itself for a long time. 'All the great pre-Nicene theologians repre-sented the subordination of ... In this respect it had hitherto been no less sensitive than Modalism. Thus Arius argued that a Son, who was, in like sense as God the Father, 'eternal' and consequently god-like, would no more be the Son, but the Brother of the Father. But now many Arians compromised to the effect that the Logos-Son was indeed not true God (but a high ... A misunderstanding of the Messianic doctrine of late Judaism and Primitive Christianity was involved here, analogous to that whereby, as Post-Apostolic Christianity had come to suppose, the Primitive Christian term 'Son of Man' should signify Christ as the Son of Mary or as a descendant of Adam. It was now thought that the sense ... ...
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186: Trinity proof texts: John 5:18
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse may befall you." The man went away, and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well. And for this reason the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath. But He answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working." For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. Click to View The irrefutable argument stated: Jesus quite clearly taught that he was equal to God. This was the clear impression that Jesus listeners had of Jesus' teaching, and they wanted to stone him for it. Comments: It is important to note that Jesus breaking the sabbath was the first recorded controversy that John records in the single most important chapter in the gospel of John to prove ... ...
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187: Sola Scriptura Creedalists: The Apostolic Fathers expected all ...
Or even simpler, "Be silent heretic, and read the Nicene creed for yourself!" "In order to solve as easily as possible this most difficult problem, we must first master the knowledge which the Divine Scriptures give of Father and of Son, that so we may speak with more precision, as dealing with familiar and accustomed matters." (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 3, 2) Click to View Hilary again shows that the individual skill can make a difference in properly understanding the Bible whether you are in the church or a heretic! His solution to the Arian controversy was in the scripture, not the Nicene creed. "Yet it is well for us to know all that ... He also says that the natural reading of scripture is enough. Why do the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches think that what they write is understandable with "ordinary reason", but what God writes is confusing to all unless you are the Pope? If non-Catholics cannot understand the Bible apart from "God's organization", because the ... ...
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188: C. H. Dodd: New Testament Translation Problems Part II, John ...
... It is [...], that which it really is. Thus what John is saying is that what God is, is [...] (with its attributes of immateriality, invisibility, life, power, etc.), in contrast with [...]. Hence the expressions, [...] (3.5) are identical in meaning. On this analogy, the meaning of [...] will be that the o6cria of [...], that which it truly is, is rightly denominated [...], that term being used in a way more congruous with Hellenistic thought than with the Hebraic strain in the thought of Judaism and early Christianity. That this is the [...] (the personal God of Abraham, the Father goes without saying. In fact, the Nicene [...] is a perfect paraphrase. How is it to be translated? In English it is natural enough to use the term "spirit" for "incorporeal or immaterial being, opp. to body or matter" (O.E.D.), so that "God is spirit" is a perfectly intelligible proposition. But the term "God" is not naturally used in so abstract a sense and "The Word was God" does not convey the meaning ... ...
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189: Grant, Robert M.: Gods and the One God
Similarly, Clement refers to Christ as God. In spite of these points, the Christology of the apologies, like that of the New Testament, is essentially subordinationist. The Son is always subordinate to the Father, who is the one God of the Old Testament. (Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant, p109) "What we find in these early authors, then, is not a doctrine of the Trinity- a term we reserve for a doctrine that tries to explain the relation of the three Persons to the one God-but a depiction of the three Persons. In other words, we find the materials for such a doctrine but not ... It was especially offensive at Alexandria, where Origen had tried to overcome subordinationism even though he shared many aspects of it. Presumably Arius' true views can be seen in his letter to his ally Eusebius of Nicomedia. He objected to the slogans of his own bishop, Alexander of Alexandria, such as: 'Ever God ever Son, together Father with Son, the Son exists unbegottenly with God, ever begotten, ... ...
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190: Pseudo-Philo: 60 AD Creation in 5886 BC, Septuagint Chronology
"For from Adam to the deluge there are reckoned, according to our copies of Scripture [Septuagint], 2262 years, and according to the Hebrew text, 1656 years." (Constantine, Aug., De civ. Dei 15.20.2) Introduction: 1. Augustine was a theological Jellyfish with poor logical skills who felt at ease in teaching things that directly ... While it was almost universally (wrongly) believed that Terah was only 70 years old, the Holy Spirit corrected this error. d. HOLY SPIRIT: "Then he left the land of the Chaldeans and settled in Haran. From there, after his father died, God had him move to this country in which you are now living." (Acts 7:4) e. AUGUSTINE: "Now Abraham was ... Although Augustine rejected the idea that the Jews corrupted their chronologies in Gen 5,11, he takes specific note that was a widely held opinion of the day. Augustine was wrong and the prevailing opinion that the Jews changed their Torah chronology was true. II. The majority view was that the Jews corrupted the Hebrew text: ... ...
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191: Father's are critically important to normal development of children
initiated by women - most common reason cited: they were growing apart or she didn't feel loved anymore.) 3. Fathers abuse their children (the majority of maltreated children were abused by their mother 58% verses 42% for fathers in a 2003 government study) C. Older television shows had titles like "Father Knows Best," but current televison portray fathers as bumbling idiots. D. What is interesting is that people didn't always have this view 1. In 1965 Patrick Moynihan made this conclusion: "From the wild Irish slums of the 19^th century eastern seaboard, to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angles, there is one unmistakable lesson in American history: A community that allows a large number of ... found that the best predictor of violent crime and burglary in a community was the proportion of households without fathers. (2) US Department of Health and Human Services/ found that 70% of all juveniles in long-term correctional facilities did not live with their father while growing up. b. ... ...
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192: Trinity proof texts: Micah 5:2-3
... If a single creation point was meant, it would have to be non-plural! Hosea 6:3 uses the "singular/non-plural" [4161 mowtsa'] in reference to God, making it more likely, according to Jehovah's Witness logic, that God had a single origin/creation point. "So let us know, let us press on to know Jehovah. His going forth [4161 mowtsa'] is as certain as the dawn." Of course, we know God is not a creature, but then neither is Jesus Christ according to Micah 5:2! But the use of the plural "goings forth" is irrefutable proof, that the text means, "His activities date back to all eternity, without beginning" rather than, "He was created [singular] long ago". Even if we granted that the word [4163 mowtsa'ah] meant "origin" in the sense of "beginning point", we could easily say of Jehovah, "Jehovah's origin (beginning point) is from long ago, from the days of eternity." We would not think it meant the Father was a creature! We would clearly understand that God's origin dates back to all eternity, ... ...
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193: Prerequisites Qualifications & Requirements of the councilor
Historically, elders of a local church are the most qualified councilors on earth to deal with the behaviours associated with all mental illnesses including schizophrenic. The Bible uses all the terms "elder/presbyter, pastor/shepherd, bishop/overseer in reference to a single office in the church in an interchangeable way. The ... The councilor must have a good working knowledge of the Bible which is able to equip him for even mental illness: "equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, comfort [pleading for one to take action: ... "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose [telling someone they are wrong: Elencho] them ;" Ephesians 5:11 "Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke [strongly rebuke: epitimao] him; and if he repents, forgive him." Luke 17:3 "instructing [long term parental guidance of a child to mold ... ...
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194: Top ten list of why the Roman Catholic and Orthodox take the ...
The idea that they had their origin in extra-biblical oral tradition is utterly false. It is wrong to view creeds, like the Nicene creed, as proof that oral tradition continues today, since these creeds were in fact written down and being written, were no longer "oral" traditions! When the Church Fathers made reference to a "oral apostolic tradition" separate from scripture, they always viewed such tradition as duplicating what the apostles later revealed in scripture as a parallel witness. In other words, all doctrines that originated from apostolic oral traditions were finally recorded in the text of scripture. The substance of Oral tradition doctrines is ... On the Trinity, Book 1, 35), (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 7, 16) When Basil and the Arians both claimed their tradition was correct, Basil said, "let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favour of that side will be cast the vote of ... ...
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195: The Catholic Church did not Give the world The Bible!
... It was not until the fourth session of the Council of Trent (1545-1563) that the bishops and high ranking officials of the Catholic Church "officially" cataloged the books they thought should be included in the Bible and bound them upon the consciences of all Catholics. (See Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, pp. 17-18). Secondly, God did not give ... In the following we list some of the catalogues of the books of the Bible which are given by early Christian writers. 326. Athanasius, bishop at Alexandria, mentions all of the New Testament books. 315-386. Cyril, bishop at Jerusalem, gives a list of all New Testament books except Revelation. 270. Eusebius, bishop at Caesarea, called the Father of ecclesiastical history, gives an account of the persecution of Emperor Diocletian whose edict required that all churches be destroyed and the Scriptures burned. He lists all the books of the New Testament. He was commissioned by Constantine to have transcribed fifty copies of the Bible ... ...
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196: Sola Scriptura: Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary ...
... Or even simpler, "Be silent heretic, and read the Nicene creed for yourself!" "In order to solve as easily as possible this most difficult problem, we must first master the knowledge which the Divine Scriptures give of Father and of Son, that so we may speak with more precision, as dealing with familiar and accustomed matters." (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 3, 2) Click to View Hilary again shows that the individual skill can make a difference in properly understanding the Bible whether you are in the church or a heretic! His solution to the Arian controversy was in the scripture, not the Nicene creed. "Yet it is well for us to know all that ... He also says that the natural reading of scripture is enough. Why do the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches think that what they write is understandable with "ordinary reason", but what God writes is confusing to all unless you are the Pope? If non-Catholics cannot understand the Bible apart from "God's organization", because the ... ...
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197: The Personality & Deity of the Holy Spirit proven from the Bible ...
"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" 2 Cor 13:14 Although the verse gives us no information of 4th century Trinitarian doctrine of "three in one" etc, it most certainly proves the Holy Spirit is a person. To suggest we are to be baptized in the name of (or by the authority of) the Father, the Son and electricity, assaults our common sense. Three persons are clearly implied in this verse. With 2 Cor 13:14, like Mt 28:19, we have a three part combination verse that demands grace, love and fellowship be equally ascribed to three corresponding persons. A. What is a person: Definition of person: "One who had substance, completeness, self-existent, individuality and ... E. The "Holy Spirit" is in contrast to "unholy Spirit", who are persons: The very term "Holy Spirit" is used in contrast to "unholy spirits" like demons and the devil: Mark 3:22-23; Mt 12:32; 1 Tim 4:1; 1 Jn 3:24-4:6. If "unholy or evil spirits" are ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-holy-spirit-personality-deity.htm
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198: Dunn, James D. G.: Christology in the Making, 2nd edition, 1989
formula ('one substance, three persons') as 'person' in the sense that we now understand 'person', or, more to the point, in the way that Jesus of Nazareth was a person. If the preexistent Word of God, the Son of God, is a person in that sense, then Christianity is unavoidably tritheistic. And if we take texts like Col. 1. 15ff. as straightforward descriptions of the Jesus who came from Nazareth we are committed to an interpretation of that text which has broken clearly and irrevocably from monotheism. Likewise if we assume that the Father/Son language of John's Gospel has in view more the relationship between the Father and the Son (of Nicene and post-Nicene concern) than the continuity of Logos Christology (of pre-Nicene concern) we lose sight of the primary monotheistic control which prevents such language slipping into polytheism. (Christology in the Making, James D. G. Dunn, 2nd edition, 1989, foreword, xxxii) If the preexistent Word of God, the Son of God, is a person ... ...
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199: Official creed of Associated Gospel Churches (AGC)
We believe that the Godhead eternally exists in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, having precisely the same nature, attributes and perfections, and are worthy of precisely the same homage, confidence and obedience. Gen. 1:26; 3:22; 11:6-8; John 1:1-4; Isa. 63:8-10; Acts 5:3+4; Matt. 28:19-20; 2 Cor.13:14; Mark 12:29; Rev. 1:4-6; Heb. 1:1-3 We believe that God exists in three persons, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, that these three are eternal and are ... We believe that our Lord and Saviour clearly prescribed for His believing disciples the solemn rite of the Lord's Supper as a memorial of the Lord's death to be kept by His disciples until He comes again, according to His promise and the Father's revealed plan. Luke 22:19-20; 1 Cor. 11:23-27. - Constitution of the AGC In this constitution the term Associated Gospel Churches shall here-in-after be referred to as the A.G.C. PREAMBLE WHEREAS in the year 1922, when a serious ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/cr-AGC.htm
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200: Modalism refuted: UPCI's Sixty Questions On The Godhead refuted ...
... If we accept that the verse should be translated "the express image of His substance," it still proves that one is the "image" and one is the "substance." That makes two because an image is not the same as a substance. What proves too much proves nothing. UPC Question #10. "Does the Bible say that there are two persons in the ... In Deuteronomy 4:35 Moses told Israel, "...The LORD (the singular Hebrew word - Yahweh) Himself is God (the plural Hebrew word - eloheem). According to Deuteronomy 32:6 the Father is the one Yahweh - LORD - Jehovah. Malachi 2:10 will be considered under question 16. UPC Question #14. "Where was God the Father while Jesus was on earth? ... The question is flawed and therefore the author's contentions are inappropriate. There is no contradiction when we understand that God the Father and God the Holy Spirit are separate. In fact the basic idea conveyed by the term holy is separate. There is the Father, the Son and the separate Spirit and they are revealed as being ... ...
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