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Muller, James Arthur: Creeds and Loyalty Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Anti-Trinitarians create a false dilemma by projecting the false impression in the mind of the reader that if the "Formulated trinity doctrine" (of the Athanasius creed) is not in the Bible that Jesus is a creature and the Holy Spirit is electricity! Muller, James Arthur: Creeds and Loyalty What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "This lack of a formulated doctrine of the Trinity reflects the theological thought of the second century. In the works of Justin Martyr, who wrote in about 150 A.D., the preexistence of the Son is stressed, yet in relation to the Father He is spoken of as 'in the ... The deception is that anti-Trinitarians create a false dilemma by projecting the false impression in the mind of the reader that if the "Formulated trinity doctrine" (of the Athanasius creed) is not in the Bible that Jesus is a creature and the Holy Spirit is electricity! Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Muller.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 8:58 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View John 8:56-59 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid ... Click to View Word Study on I AM in the Bible Click to View The circus of Watchtower grammatical flip flops Click to View Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals Jesus Echoes Jehovah! Click to View Another important ... Such verses as John 1:15,30, coupled with John 8:58 are insurmountable obstacles to the Christadelphian view that Christ pre-existed only in the mind of God and not personally. No where in the Bible is it stated ... Schonfield, an advocate of the "swoon theory" is quoted by the Muslims in support of their view that Jesus didn't actually die on the cross. Jehovah's Witnesses habitually quote faithless men like this to trash ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john8-58.htm

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Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher: believes in Angel Christology It is the height of satanic deception for the Jehovah's Witnesses to remove the phrase between two abutting quotes: "Jesus himself may not have claimed any of the Christological titles which the Gospels ascribe to him, not even the functional designation 'Christ'" Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library Click to View Bulletin of The John Rylands Library quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive ... delivered in the university of Manchester, G. H. Boobyer, B.D., D. Theol., by Visiting Professor Of Theology In The University College Of Rhodesia) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Rylands.htm

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H.A.A. Kennedy: The Expositor's Greek Testament, The Epistle ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Jehovah's Witnesses project the false impression that since Kennedy takes the active interpretation of harpazo (grasped at), that Jesus is a creature. In fact Kennedy out right states that the passage teaches Jesus is uncreated God. H.A.A. Kennedy: The Expositor's Greek Testament, The Epistle to the Philippians How anti-Trinitarians quote the source Click to View "The Expositor's Greek Testament also says: "We cannot find any passage where ... Thus it is not permissible to glide from the true sense 'grasp at' into one which is totally different, 'hold fast.'" (As quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication, John 10:30; p 416-423) What they left out of the ... for (LXX K-6pLOS), Jehovah. Cf. Sa),iitgs of _Yew. Failters (ed. Taylor), iv-, 7, and Additional Notes, pp. 165-167, Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Kennedy-Expositors-Greek.htm

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John Calvin: Commentary On The Gospel According To John (Translated ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Jehovah's Witnesses create a false dilemma in an effort to prove their interpretation of John 10:30. They try to project the idea that if Jesus was not teaching He was "made of the same stuff as the Father", then he was a creature. In fact, the passage clearly proves Jesus was ... quote the source Click to View "Regarding John 10:30, John Calvin (who was a Trinitarian) said in the book Commentary on the Gospel According to John: "The ancients made a wrong use of this passage to prove that Christ is . . . of the same essence with the Father. For Christ does not argue about the unity of substance, but about the agreement which he has with the Father."" (As quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, ... This reminds us that we are not exposed to the lawless passions of wicked men, which God restrains by his bridle, whenever he thinks fit. Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Calvin.htm

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Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd ... Though late-daters love to quote Victorius who says it was Domitian who exiled John, they fail to note that Victorious contradicts ... believe in it, and we will not set up any one with our Lord [Trinity]: And that He-- exalted be the majesty of our Lord-- has not ... While the Bible teaches that Jesus is Creator God and the Holy Spirit is a person, the developed trinitarian formula seems over-emphasized and a bit early. c. Polycarp being called "THE Bishop" rather ... At the time of Polycarp's death, in AD 150 church organization had only begun to view one of the many elders as the "head elder" or ... It is impossible for me to sacrifice to these demons with their deceptive appearances. For those who sacrifice to them are like ... asking "What about the thief on the cross" refutes the Bible doctrine that water baptism is essential to salvation, click here. ... Babylonian Chronology: 626 B.C. - A.D. 75, Richard Anthony Parker, Waldo H Dubberstein, 1971 AD b. See detailed Chronological tables ... ... https://www.bible.ca/revelation/

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Hertz, Dr. J. H.: The Pentateuch and Haftorahs JW's project the false view that they would have an easier time converting Jews to Watchtower view of God, (where they call Jesus Lord, a God, and Messiah) than Trinitarians to the Triune God. Hertz, Dr. J. H.: The Pentateuch and Haftorahs Click to View "This sublime pronouncement of absolute monotheism was a declaration of war against all polytheism . . . In the same way, the Shema excludes the trinity of the Christian creed as a violation of ... We could quote a pile of Rabbi's who are honest enough to admit that Ex 3 should be rendered "I am who I am"... "I am" Deception Exposed: For Arians (JW's, Christadelphians) to appeal to Jewish Rabbis to support their false doctrine is nothing short of incredible! Doing such is as dishonest as it is deceptive! JW's have not comprehended that if they had the ... or TWINITARIANS! Stated differently, from the perspective of Jewish Rabbis there is NO REAL DIFFERENCE between the Trinitarian view of God and the Arian (JW's) view of God. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hertz.htm

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BEWARE: Arian Biased Translations Arian Biased Translations Click to View Schonfield Johannes Greber New World Translation Moffatt, James Goodspeed, Edgar Smith, J. M. Powis Emphatic Diaglott Kingdom Interlinear Lamsa ... Modernists who deny the virgin birth are quoted by Jehovah's Witnesses because both deny the deity of Christ! Bible Scoffers and Arians make strange bedfellows! Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal refuted Below are the Bibles Jehovah's Witnesses will quote to ... However, Schonfield, author of "The Passover Plot", makes Jesus into a charlatan, and doesn't even believe in the deity of God the Father! Schonfield, an advocate of the "swoon theory" is quoted by the Muslims in support of their view that Jesus didn't actually die on the cross. Jehovah's Witnesses habitually quote faithless men like this to trash the trinity. ("The ... Smith regards the miracles of the Bible, such as Jesus' virgin birth, His raising of the dead, and others as mere myth or legend. Emphatic Diaglott: Produced by a Christadelphian named ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-translations.htm

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Anti-Trinity Proof Texts Refuted: Galatians 4:14 Anti-Trinity Proof Texts Refuted Click to View Galatians 4:13-14 "you know that it was because of a bodily illness that I preached the gospel to you the first time; 14 and that which was a trial to you in my bodily condition you did not despise or loathe, but you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself." Click to View False Arian argument stated: The two expressions "angel of God" and "Christ Jesus Himself" prove that Jesus is an angel or is ... Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals: Anti-Trinitarian faulty argument #1 By way of Hebrew Parallelism, where the same thing is repeated twice in different ways for emphasis, "Jesus" is the "angel of God". That Jesus is outright called an angel in this ... There are three different definition uses of HOS listed by BAGD. Gal 4:14 is not even listed anywhere in the extensive article by BAGD. It is deceptive not to mention this, but more to only quote one of three possible definitions then IMPLY that Gal 4:14 is within that one definition. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-galatians4-14.htm

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False Doctrine of Modalism: As taught by the United Pentecostal ... Click to View See also: "Sixty Questions On The Godhead" refuted A False View of God: Click to View Definition: Think of a being that can "morphe", "shape shifter" from one ... at any one time" If the three modes of God are able to co-exist AT THE SAME TIME, then there is no essential difference with Modalism and Trinity doctrine. Now some Modalists, will disagree with our definition pointing to the fact that all three modes did indeed manifest themselves a the baptism of Jesus. ... Would any Trinitarian claim that God the father had no sympathy with his own son as he hung upon the cross? The Modalists never used the term of themselves.) The ... Both United Pentecostal and Christadelphian doctrine are heresy! Click to View "... God formed a plan, put flesh on that plan, and then put that plan in operation. God ... Modalists really never give an answer. But interesting Jesus does in the next verse of Jn 17 that they fail to quote: "I in them, and Thou in Me, that they may be ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism.htm

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"Hostile witness approach" misused by the Watchtower "Hostile Witness Approach" Satanic Quoting practices exposed! Click to View "Hostile witness approach" misused by the Watchtower in: "Should You Believe in the Trinity"(Watchtower booklet) A quick short summary! Top Ten List: "Worst of the worst" of satanic quoting in the ... Evolutionists hate it when one of their own admits some element of evolution theology is flat wrong. Creationists will quote this guy with glee, because a fellow evolutionist had ... Jehovah's Witnesses, have recognized the power of the "hostile witness" approach to debunking Trinitarian theology. They published a booklet called, "Should you believe in the ... In fact in the very next sentence he says, "Not only is Trinity a pagan doctrine. but even Jesus borrowed all his parables directly from Buddhism." Jehovah's Witnesses make it ... Origins debate: Correct "hostile witness" approach: Dr. Patton quoting an evolutionist to refute evolution. Origins debate: Deceptive quoting approach: If Dr. Patton quotes a ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-hostile-witness-approach.htm

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Footnoting Policy of Watchtower, and actual footnotes to their ... How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their own people? Click here Click to View We draw your attention to the fact that the Watchtower booklet, "Should you believe the Trinity?" has NO FORMAL FOOTNOTES. The best they provide are vague partial references to a book Title (often not even quoting the ... Further, they quote several times from non-English resources that are not translated into English. The Watchtower was kind enough to translate their little deceptive quote, but such quotes in an English resource makes it ... The Watchtower boasts in the front cover of this booklet of a first printing of 5 million. This means that it is the single most important anti-trinitarian document that the JW's use in their efforts to teach the public ... Section 5: What Does the Bible Say About God and Jesus? 66. "A Critical History of the Evolution of Trinitarianism", by Levi Leonard Paine, 1900, (Houghton, Mifflin, and Company, Boston and New York; The Riverside Press, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-footnotes.htm

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Werner, Martin: The Formation of Christian Dogma Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Modernist: believes in Angel Christology Werner is a flaming modernist typical of almost all university professors of religion. But in utter deception, JW's fail to tell us that Werner labels ... What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "In the Primitive Christian era there was no sign of any kind of Trinitarian problem or controversy, such as later produced violent conflicts in the Church. The reason for ... Wherever in the New Testament the relationship of Jesus to God, the Father, is brought into consideration, whether with reference to his appearance as a man or to his Messianic status, it is conceived of and represented categorically as ... Werner, a "modernist and liberal theologian" is about the best Anti-Trinitarians can find as an authority. Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Werner.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 1:1 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." The three "a,b,c" clauses referred to in this document: John 1:1a "In the ... exactly like we do, as a "class of being". The difference is that JW's define Jesus as a lessor class of being, and we, defining the two occurrences of God identically, as an equal class of being! ... There is no syntactical parallel to Acts 28:6 where there is a statement in indirect discourse; John 1:1 is direct....I am neither a Christian nor a Trinitarian." Kaufman: Dr. Paul L. Kaufman of ... Now God's plan was materialized in all its fulness." [cf. The Trinity, J. H. Broughton, p 247, Christadelphian doctrine book] In the beginning, God had a plan to eventually create EVE, and EVE, as ... So John 1:1 highlights the quality of the Word, that he was "divine," "godlike," "a god," but not Almighty God." Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #13 refuted Click to View "The Decepto-meter" Satanic Quote ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john1-1.htm

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Trinitas - A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian, Roman Catholic Tertullian was a Trinitarian who believed in the uncreated deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. Trinitas - A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity Click to View "The Catholic work Trinitas-A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for example, notes that some of Tertullian's words were later used by others to describe the Trinity. Then it cautions: 'But hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for he does not apply the words to Trinitarian theology.'" (as quoted in "Should you believe in the trinity?", Watchtower booklet) What did they fail to quote from this source? "The great African fashioned the Latin language of the Trinity, and many of his words and phrases remained permanently in use: the words Trinitas and persona, the formulas 'one substance in three persons,' 'God from God, light from Light.' He uses the word substantia 400 times, as he uses ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Trinitas.htm

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Jocz, Jacob: The Jewish People and Jesus Christ Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: World Religion: Jewish Rabbi JW's project the false impression that Jews are more easily converted to the Watchtower view of Jesus than the Trinitarian view because of the deity of Jesus. Jocz, Jacob: The Jewish People and Jesus Christ What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "It is at this point that the gulf between the Church and the Synagogue opens before us in all its depth and significance. . . . The teaching of the divinity of Jesus Christ is an unpardonable offence in the eyes of Judaism." (The Jewish People and Jesus Christ, 1979, Jacob Jocz) What they fail to tell the same article also says: The missionary motive therefore cannot be the extension of Church but the Lordship of Jesus Christ. The profession that Jesus Christ is Lord is the distinctive mark of the Church and is tested in a particular and drastic way when face to face with Judaism: here as nowhere else Church and mission coincide. (The Jewish People and Jesus ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Jocz.htm

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Hislop, Alexander: The Two Babylons Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian JW's and Christadelphians should be spanked for quoting Hislop as saying trinity came from the Pagans! Hislop's actual view is that God revealed Himself as Trinity from the beginning to the patriarchs calling trinity "original patriarchal faith" and that the pagans corrupted it! Hislop, Alexander: The Two Babylons Quoted by JW's & Christadelphians & Victor Paul Wierwille of The Way International "Trinity in Unity, In India, the supreme divinity, in like manner, in one of the most ancient cave-temples, is represented with three heads on one body, under the name of "Eko Deva Trimurtti," "One God, three forms."" (The Two Babylons Alexander Hislop, Chapter II Section I) "The three heads are different arranged in Layard's specimen, but both alike are evidently intended to symbolise the same great truth [of the trinity], although all such representation of the Trinity necessarily and utterly debase the conceptions of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hislop.htm

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Hodder and Stoughton: The Illustrated Bible Dictionary Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Misleads the reader into thinking that Hodder denies that trinity is scripture based. As Hodder says "Although Scripture does not give us a formulated doctrine of the Trinity, it contains all the elements out of which theology has constructed the doctrine." (i.e. the deity of Christ and personality of the Holy Spirit) Hodder and Stoughton: The Illustrated Bible Dictionary Click to View "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) (Identical quote also found in New Bible Dictionary, by Douglas, J. D. & Bruce F. F) What they failed to add before and after (their quote in blue) "It must be remembered that the OT was written before the revelation of the doctrine of the Trinity was clearly given." ... "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hodder.htm

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Henderson and Buck, Charles: Theological Dictionary, 1852 Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Quote is used to project the false impression that Constantine is the one who ushered the "pagan Trinity Doctrine" into the church. A careful reading of the quote shows that is not what the author is saying! Henderson and Buck, Charles: Theological Dictionary, 1852 Quoted by Anti-trinitarians "Whatever may have been the true character of Constantine's conversion to the Christian faith, its consequences were of vast importance both to the empire and to the Church of Christ. It opened the way for the unobstructed propagation of the Gospel to a wider extent than at any former period of its history. All impediments to an open profession of Christianity were removed, and it became the established religion of the empire. Numerous, however, in various points of view, as were the advantages accruing to it from this change, it soon began to suffer from being brought into close contact with the fostering influence of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Henderson.htm

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Newman, John Henry: Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian It is deceptive to deliberately misrepresent Newman to say that trinity is pagan origin, when in the same breath Newman also says that incarnation, angles, demons, divine kingdom and new birth are also of pagan origin. In Fact Newman doesn't believe any of these things originated with Pagans! Newman, John Henry: Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "Let us allow that the whole circle of doctrines, of which our Lord is the subject, was consistently and uniformly confessed by the Primitive Church . . . But it surely is otherwise with the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity. I do not see in what sense it can be said that there is a consensus of primitive [church authorities] in its favour . . . The Creeds of that early day make no mention . . . of the [Trinity] at all. They make mention indeed of a Three; but that there is any mystery in the doctrine, that the Three are One, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Newman.htm

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Girdlestone, Robert Baker: Synonyms of the Old Testament Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority of top scholars and the author adopt the "Plural of Majesty" view of Gen 1:26 Girdlestone, Robert Baker: Synonyms of the Old Testament How anti-Trinitarians quoted it What they didn't want you to see! "Many critics, however, of unimpeachable [Trinitarian] orthodoxy, think it wiser to rest where such divines as Cajetan [a theologian] in the Church of Rome and Calvin among Protestants were content to stand, and to take the plural form as a plural of majesty." (Synonyms of the Old Testament, R. B. Girdlestone) The Name ELOHIM and the Trinity. It is clear that the fact of the word Elohim being plural in form does not at all sanction polytheism - but we have now to consider whether it may fairly be taken as a testimony to the plurality of Persons in the Godhead. It is certainly marvelously consistent with this doctrine, and must remove a great stumbling-block out of the path ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Girdlestone.htm

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Bettenson, Henry: Documents of the Christian Church Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority who opposed the Nicene creed believed Jesus is a creature. Bettenson, Henry: Documents of the Christian Church What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "The decisions of Nicea were really the work of a minority, and they were misunderstood and disliked by many" (Documents of the Christian Church, Henry Bettenson) What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: Attempts to overthrow the Nicene Formulas: The decisions of Nicaea were really the work of a minority, and they were misunderstood and disliked by many who were not adherents of Arius. In particular the terms [Greek] aroused opposition, on the grounds that they were unscriptural, novel, tending to Sabellianism (taking [Greek] in the sense of particular reality and erroneous metaphysically. Athanasius was twice exiled, and when ninety bishops assembled at Antioch for the dedication of Constantine's ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Bettenson.htm

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Schneider, J.: Theologisches Begriffslexikon zum Neuen Testament Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Apart from misleading the reader of the sources true meaning, according to anti-Trinitarian logic, a wife is a lesser class of being than her husband because she is subordinate to him! Schneider, J.: Theologisches Begriffslexikon zum Neuen Testament What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "Jesus Christ does not usurp the place of God. His oneness with the Father does not mean absolute identity of being. Although the Son of God in his preexistent being was in the form of God, he resisted the temptation to be equal with God (Phil. 2:6). . . . Although completely coordinated with God, he remains subordinate to him." (Theologisches Begriffslexikon zum Neuen Testament, J. Schneider, 1965, Vol. 2, p. 606) What they fail to tell the same author says: J Schneider is being misrepresented, as this quote proves: "E. Stauffer is doubtless correct when he writes: "The Christology of the NT is carried to its logical conclusion with the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Schneider.htm

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Hase, Charles: A History of the Christian Church Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Misrepresents what Hase actually says. Hase, Charles: A History of the Christian Church Quoted by Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille, leader of "The Way International" cult, in his book: "The Origin of the Three-in-One God. Wierwille misrepresents Hase by inferring that Hase says that the Christian faith was quickly corrupted by pagan converts. Hase does not assert this, and especially does not say the Trinity a pagan doctrine. (Charles Hase, A history of the Christian church; translated from the 7th and much improved German edition by C.E. Blumenthal and C.P. Wing. New York : Appleton, 1866. pp. 53-71.) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hase.htm

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Hick, John: The Myth of God Incarnate Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Christianity Trasher: Denies incarnation Hick completely denies the incarnation, but is so liberal in his view of the Bible that not even Christadelphians, who also deny the incarnation, would want to quote from this guy! Hick, John: The Myth of God Incarnate As quoted by Anti-trinitarians "There is actually nothing new about the central themes of this book ... That the historical Jesus did not present Himself as God incarnate is accepted by all [theologians] ... Christian laymen today are not fully aware of it. ... (Jesus) did not teach the doctrine of the trinity." (The Myth of God Incarnate, John Hick) Our Comment Hick is a flaming modernist who doesn't believe the Bible! The title of the book "Myth of God incarnate" not only denies that Jesus was God incarnate, (trinity) but denies any incarnation period! In other words, Hick and his collection of liberal theologians, don't even believe that Jesus was a pre-existent ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hick.htm

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Noss, John B.: Man's Religion Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Christianity and rejects the inspiration of the Bible Noss, John B.: Man's Religion What Anti-Trinitarians quote: John B. Noss 1968 "The doctrine of the trinity he [Michael Servetus] felt to be a Catholic perversion and himself to be a good New Testament Christian in combating it. . . According to his conception, a trinity composed of three distinct persons in one God is a rational impossibility" (Man's Religion, John B. Noss, 1968) What they fail to tell the same article also ... Historical criticism has been particularly busy with them during the last seventy-five years, and has reached the verdict that in the New Testament the early Christian religion about Jesus has overlaid and modified the record of the religion of Jesus himself; but there is no unanimity about the degree of modification. It is known that Jesus himself did not write down his teachings, but relied upon his ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Noss.htm

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C. H. Dodd: New Testament Translation Problems Part II, John ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Anti-Trinitarians quote Dodd's words, "The Word was a god". As a word-for-word translation it cannot be faulted", and use it to justify the NWT's rendering. In fact, Dodd outright rejects this as a possible translation, but Jehovah's Witnesses won't tell you that is what Dodd says. They want you to believe Dodd would stand behind the NWT rendering. The United Bible Society (who publishes the magazine wrote in: The Bible ... Notice how Dodd qualifies the quote you provided: "*If* translation..." His point is that translation is NOT merely a wooden substitution of one English word for one Greek word. If it were, "a god" could not be "faulted." Murray J. Harris in his excellent book, _Jesus as God, also says that "a god" is grammatically possible - as is "God was the Word" and "The Word was God." He also notes that a "literal" translation of Jn 8:44 could be "you belong to the father of the devil," if "only ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Dodd.htm

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Earnest Haenchen: 1984 English translation of Haenchen's commentary ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic quote: trinitarian The Watchtower commits every offence with Haenchen's work. They selectively quote to make Haenchen appear to say something opposite to what he is actually saying. They overlook the fact that Haenchen comes right out and says Jesus is not a creature. They again confuse modalism with trinitarian theology. They redefine Haenchen's words like "divine" in a way that Haenchen himself would object to. Finally, they rely on a sloppy translation by Funk, who takes some liberties, that Haenchen would not. Haenchen, ... The Watchtower article quotes Haenchen and then asks, "Does that sound as if scholar Haenchen discerned in the Greek some distinction between God and the Logos, or the Word?" (Watchtower, December 15, 1985, p 25) Again this is deceptive, because Jehovah's Witnesses and Trinitarians agree that Jesus and the Father are distinct. It is modalists that deny the distinction between Father and Son, not trinitarians! ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Haenchen.htm

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Paine, L. L., A Critical History Of The Evolution Of Trinitarianism Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Bible Trasher! Payne rejects the Bible as God's word! Paine, L. L., A Critical History Of The Evolution Of Trinitarianism Click to View THE Bible teaching that God is one is called monotheism. And L. L. Paine, professor of ecclesiastical history, indicates that monotheism in its purest form does not allow for a Trinity: "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there . . . is utterly without foundation." Was there any change from monotheism after Jesus came to the earth? Paine answers: "On this point there is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed, but not a new theology. . . . And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: 'Hear, O Israel, the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Paine.htm

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Parthasarathy, A.: The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: World Religion: Hindu Parthasarathy is a Hindu who would review the Watchtower concept of God and label all JW's as trinitarian! Parthasarathy, A.: The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "Siva is one of the gods of the Trinity. He is said to be the god of destruction. The other two gods are Brahma, the god of creation and Vishnu, the god of maintenance. . . . To indicate that these three processes are ... There are only vague parallels between the Hindu trinity and the Christian trinity. For Arians (JW's, Christadelphians) to appeal to Hindus, to support their false doctrine is nothing short of incredible! Doing such is as dishonest as it is deceptive! JW's have not comprehended that if they had the Governing Body themselves sit down and explain their view of God (Father-true God, Son-a god and Holy Spirit-the force or energy ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Parthasarathy.htm

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Hopkins, E. Washburn: Origin and Evolution of Religion Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher Washburn Hopkins trashes the whole of Christianity, not just trinity: "Finally, the life, temptation, miracles, parables, and even the disciples of Jesus have been derived directly from Buddhism". But even Hopkins openly states that Apostle John taught the trinity one sentence before the watchtower quote! Hopkins, E. Washburn: Origin and Evolution of Religion Click to View What the Watchtower deceptively quotes: "The final orthodox definition of the trinity was largely a matter of church ... How can JW's use Hopkins as proof that Trinity was borrowed from the pagans, when in fact Hopkins says: "the life, temptation, miracles, parables, and even the disciples of Jesus have been derived directly from Buddhism."? Hopkins is not even a Christian, but a Bible hater that trashes the whole of Christianity including the fundamentals of the JW's faith. Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hopkins.htm

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Wells, H.G.: Short History of the World Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher It is dishonest is it to quote from Wells that trinity is pagan, when the same author trashes Jesus as our saviour. Wells, H.G.: Short History of the World What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "There is no evidence the Apostles of Jesus ever heard of a trinity" [H. G. Wells, Outline of History, 1920 Edition, p 499]." quoted by anti-trinitarians "The writer is of opinion that the Council of Nicaea, which forcibly crystallised the controversies of two centuries and ... Wells is a prolific writer of many books, but one thing rings through, he is a Bible skeptic and a modernist who is not a Christian. Deception Exposed: It is dishonest is it to quote from Wells that trinity is pagan, when the same author trashes Jesus as our saviour, unless you tell the reader all these facts. Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Wells.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: 58 Triadic Bible Texts Click to View 58 Triadic Bible Texts Here are a collection of texts that prove the concept of the trinity, is clearly imprinted upon every page of the New Testament. These triadic (patterns of threes) texts are arranged in the order they appear in the Bible. Click to View Analysis of Triadic passages showing interchangeability Click to View A refutation of Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals to this material. Click to View Use this material as an interactive Bible class in church! Analysis of Triadic Texts showing interchangeability of terms: Interchangeability of "love": Romans 5:5-6 love of God Christ died Holy Spirit who was given Jude 20-21 love of God mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ praying in the Holy Spirit 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 ... Remember, all a Trinitarian must prove is that all three members of the trinity are persons (specifically the Holy Spirit) and Jehovah's Witness and Christadelphian theology crumbles further into finer dust, than what it already is! The key point is ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-text-triadic.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Philippians 2:5-8 Trinity Proof Texts: Phil 2:6 Jesus is not a creature Click to View Philippians 2:5-11 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the ... The translation "made himself of no reputation" eliminates the need for these distracting arguments. ... He did not "empty"; He "took on" the form of a man -- i.e., was fully God and fully man -- God manifest in the flesh. Anderson, G. W., Trinitarian Bible Society, Quarterly Record no. 538, 1997, Anti Kenotic Although in his ... Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower, Should you believe in the Trinity?, Arian Click to View For a full refutation of this most deceptive Watchtower booklet, click here. (Note Jehovah's Witness deception: The Expositor's Greek Testament: Jehovah's Witnesses project the false impression that since Kennedy takes the active ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians2-6.htm

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Sabbatatrians Refuted and Sabbath keepers Exposed: 2011 AD ... The doctrine of Athanasius [the Trinity] was received, not originated, by Rome" (pages 71, 72). This indicates how dependent Rome was for centuries on ... Sabbatarian apologists quote another passage from Tertullian which appears to be pro-Sabbatarian, but that quote is in reference to the keeping of the ... "This passage does not therefore state that every Old Testament regulation is eternally valid. This view is not found anywhere in the New Testament, which consistently sees Jesus as introducing a new situation, for which the ... that a major judgment event took place in Heaven on May 21, 2011. Lee calls this technique "the old false-prophecy-becomes-deceptive-doctrine ploy." ... For Newton these time periods (especially the 1260 years) represent the time span of the apostasy of the Church (for Newton this means the Trinitarian ... For the complete text of the 1873 edition of Andrews' book, go to the Wikipedia article, "J.N. Andrews," and click on the link to the book. You must have ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-lying-for-god-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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Abbott, Lyman: Dictionary of Religious Knowledge Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Core Christianity Abbott, Lyman: Dictionary of Religious Knowledge Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, Jw's booklet. Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith." (A ... What else did they fail to tell about Abbott's religious views? But when I came to study the teachings of Jesus with my fellow students in this Congregational Bible Class, I found that he never mentioned vicarious atonement or the Fall of Adam or the Trinity" ("What Christianity Means to me, A spiritual ... Abbott is an ultra liberal. "Abbott, Lyman: His theological position is that of a Congregationalist of the Liberal Evangelical type." (The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia, Abbott, Lyman, Vol 1, p7) But not content that he is a Liberal, they even practice deceptive "selective quoting" by failing to note that ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Abbott.htm

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Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity Such a conclusion is simply invalid and for this reason, it is utter deception for the Jehovah's Witnesses to use Weigall as proof that trinity is pagan, because the same identical logic would prove the virgin birth as pagan. Weigall, Arthur: The Paganism in Our Christianity Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet: "The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan." (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) "Historian Arthur Weigall notes: "Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New ... If they can read all what Weigall says was pagan and not immediately label their own organization as dishonest on the spot, they are simply too blind to reason anything. As Jesus said: "leave them alone, they are blind guides". It is utterly deceptive, dishonest and unscholarly to quote Weigall as proof that trinity is pagan, when ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Weigall.htm

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Hanson, Richard Patrick Crossland: The Search for the Christian ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Creates a false dilemma in the mind of the reader by projecting the false illusion that if Jesus is subordinate to the Father, that he cannot be God! Hanson, Richard Patrick Crossland: The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God, The Arian controversy 318-381 Quoted by Anti-Trinitarians "There is no theologian in ... A wife is subordinate to her husband, but is equal in nature. Her rank is lower, but she is made of the identical stuff as the man! What else they failed to quote: "A characteristic exegetical ploy of the Arians was to invoke texts in the interests of what might be called 'reductionism', that is to say ... Greg and Groh, (Early Arianism, p107-108) give a list of texts used by Arians to reduce the significance of the Son's partaking in God. (R. P. C. Hanson, The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God, The Arian controversy 318-381, p838) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hanson.htm

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Reade, Winwood, The Martyrdom of Man Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Core Christianity Reade, Winwood, The Martyrdom of Man Note to Muslims: Not even Reade questions the historical fact of Jesus Christ dying on a cross, just like the Bible says! What Anti-Trinitarians quote: (notice the same quote is used by anti-Trinitarians and Muslims) "Christianity had conquered paganism, and paganism had ... exchanged for the Trinity which the Egyptians had invented and which Plato had idealized into a philosophic system, [and which had existed in Brahminism, too]. The man who had said "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God' had now himself been made a god or the third part of one." (Winwood Reade, Philosopher and historian, The Martyrdom of Man, p 183-184) Deception Exposed: Reade is a Bible hater and a skeptic of Christianity! For Bible believing anti-Trinitarians to quote Reade that trinity is pagan is utterly deceptive since Reade trashes ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Reade.htm

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Norton, Andrews: A Statement of reasons for not believing the ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Accurate quoting but, Self-quoting: Self-Quoting: Unitarian No need to misrepresent this guy! He is one of them... A fellow-Arian. To quote a Unitarian theologian, as an authority to prove the pagan origin of Trinity, is about as trustworthy and believable as quoting the a Catholic Bishop to prove that Peter was the first Pope! Norton, Andrews: A Statement of reasons for not believing the doctrines of ... his religious views, and who knew him in the fulness of his fine powers" (A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton, 1872, Fifth edition, American Unitarian Association, Boston, MA) p ix, biographical notice) That Norton is the leader of an Anti-trinitarian "Unitarian" church. ... They deceive the public by not telling you that Norton is one of them, being an anti-Trinitarian. The governing body really blundered when the quoted Norton! It is totally deceptive to quote Norton as saying trinity is from pagan Plato, but fail to tell the reader that ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Norton.htm

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The Top 10 List: "Worst of the worst" of Watchtower satanic quoting Had the Watchtower told you that these eight men also said that the entirety of Christianity was of pagan origin, we would withdraw our criticism! But the Watchtower makes it appear that these are eight men reject Trinity as pagan false doctrine, but believe the rest of the Bible ... Bulletin of The John Rylands Library The author is a Christianity Trasher! "the fact has to be faced that New Testament research ... has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus ... certainly never believed himself to be God." Quoted by Watchtower Click to View In one of the most incredibly satanic examples of deceptive quoting, look what they left out with their ... The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity." Quoted by Watchtower Click to View What Gibbon is saying, is that the Bible itself was of pagan origin, not just 4th century Trinitarian doctrine! "Gibbon ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-top-ten-list-start.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Isaiah 45:23-24 = Philippians 2:9-11 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Isaiah 45:23-24: "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. They will ... and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Click to View The irrefutable argument stated: Isaiah 45:23-24 states that every knee shall bow to Jehovah and every tongue shall confess allegiance to Jehovah. ... First they deny Phil 2:9-11 is a quote of Isa 45:23-24. Next they will say that Phil 2:9-11 teaches that every knee will bow to the Father, not Jesus. Then, they flip-flop (often in the same article) and say that that it does apply to Jesus but that this is not the highest form of honor equal to what the Father would receive. Just as slaves bow to human masters, men bow to Jesus, but that makes neither divine! Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals: Anti-Trinitarian ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians9-11.htm

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How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their ... Click to View Should you believe in the Trinity? A Satanic booklet used by Jehovah's Witnesses to deceive the public into thinking that Trinity is a pagan doctrine. How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their own people? A. Because Jehovah's Witnesses believe their organization is guided by God in all it does! Read this quote from the Watchtower magazine: "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings published by the ... Finally Jehovah's Witnesses desperately need the booklet in door to door service, and the Watchtower knows it will convert more people using the deceptive booklet, than Jehovah's Witnesses it will lose from those few disobedient JW's who actually question ... Jehovah's Witnesses really don't understand the difference between Trinity and Modalism. In fact Modalism is just as Anti-Trinitarian as Arianism (JW view). But in utter deception, the Watchtower applies Modalistic interpretations to a passage, then refutes ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decieve.htm

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Scholars on the Personality of the Holy Spirit Personality of the Holy Spirit: Click to View Quotes by Scholars Anti-Trinitarians will misquote scholars so frequently, that they effectively projecting the false idea that these scholars actually reject that the Bible teaches the personality of the Holy Spirit and the trinity! The personality of the Holy Spirit is a knock out against all anti-Trinitarians and automatically proves that the trinity doctrine of three persons in the one Godhead is true! Discussion: Deceptive Quoting only a Partial etymological definition of "spirit": There are no ... The Watchtower booklet, "Should you believe in the trinity?", said of Mt 28:19: "Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, ... Thus in II Cor, xiii, 13, St. Paul writes: "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the charity of God and the communication of the Holy Ghost be with you all." Here the construction shows that the Apostle is speaking of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-quotes-personality-of-holy-spirit.htm

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Development of Trinity Doctrine from the Old to the New Testament Development of Trinity Doctrine from the Old to the New Testament. Click to View The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed! I. Watchtower Hypocrisy: When the Watchtower says, "the concept of trinity as revealed ... It is obvious that the Jews would reject the JW view of Jesus being "a god" (see Jn 10:33) as quickly as the Trinitarian view that Jesus was "THE God" (as Jn 20:28 teaches). Evidently, the Jews never made such distinctions as JW's do. This all proves that the Jehovah's Witness doctrine of Henotheism is something not understood or comprehended by the Jews any more than trinity Doctrine was! Both must claim development from the Old to the New Testament. ... VI. False doctrines taught by Jehovah's Witnesses and Christadelphians that were absent from the Old Testament entirely! Jehovah's Witnesses say in their deceptive little Anti-Trinitarian booklet: "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-development-old-testament.htm

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Refuted: Anti-Trinitarians misuse these passages to prove the ... ... Spirit and power are differentiated: "God anointed Him [Jesus] with the Holy Spirit and with power" Acts 10:38; "demonstration of the Spirit and of power" 1 Cor 2:4. It makes no sense that Jesus was "anointed with power and power". #3 Anti-Trinitarian Proof Text Refuted Click to View The Holy Spirit is neuter gender through out the New Testament Greek proving it is an "it" not a person. ... "But on the other hand, we find Jesus repeatedly using IMPERSONAL pronouns when referring to God's holy spirit, a most DISRESPECTFUL thing to do if the holy spirit were the third person of a trinity, coequal, & cosubstantial with Jehovah God himself.... But if the holy spirit were the third person of ... "While some texts say that the spirit "spoke," other passages make clear that this was done through angels or humans" (Reasoning from the Scriptures, Spirit, p380, Jehovah's Witness publication) The Watchtower is again up to their deceptive tricks. They know full well that many texts appear that God ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-holy-spirit-arian-proof-texts-refuted.htm

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Development from the trinity as taught in the Bible and the trinity ... Development of Trinity Doctrine: 100-325 AD Post-Biblical development of Trinity Doctrine: 100 AD - 325 AD Nicene era Click to View Also see outline on: Progressive revelation between the Old and New Testaments. Watchtower Hypocrisy: Doctrinal development of Jehovah's Witnesses Jehovah's Witnesses, like Catholics firmly ... Explicit implies "ontology". But the Biblical trinity (uncreated deity of Christ and personality of the Holy Spirit) are taught in the scripture. The Watchtower will quote Trinitarian sources who will say trinity is not "explicitly" taught in the New Testament, these same sources all clearly state that "trinity" IS TAUGHT in the New Testament. Why ... This does not mean very much, however, for generally speaking the New Testament is less intent upon setting forth certain doctrines than it is upon proclaiming the kingdom of God, a kingdom that dawns in and with the person of Jesus Christ. At the same time, however, there are in the New Testament the rudiments of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-development.htm

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Haruskah Anda Percaya Kepada Watchtower??? Click to View Click to View Haruskah Anda Percaya Kepada Watch Tower (Jehovah Witnesses)? Haruskah Anda Mempercayainya? Apakah anda percaya kepada Tritunggal? Dalam tulisannya "Haruskah Anda Percaya Kepada Tritunggal", Watch Tower (Menara Pengawas, selanjutnya disingkat sebagai WT, ... Tujuan dari penulisan artikel ini adalah untuk membuktikan ketidakjujuran WT terutama dalam mengutip sumber-sumbernya dan menyesatkan para pembaca. Tulisan ini sebagian besar berasal dari tulisan "Encyclopaedia of Anti-Trinitarian Deceptive quoting!" (http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions.htm) yang ditulis oleh Steve Rudd . Hanya sebagian kecil dari daftar yang ... The New Encyclopædia Britannica menyatakan: "Kata Tritunggal atau doktrinnya yang jelas tidak terdapat dalam Perjanjian Baru." Aslinya, Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-indonesian-watchtower-booklet-haruskah-anda-percaya.htm

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Encyclopedia of Pentecostal ministries and preachers Grace Ministries Hagee, John: Cornerstone Church Hagin, Kenneth Hickey, Marilyn Hill, Steve Hinn, Benny Holy Trinity Brompton (UK) Howard-Browne, Rodeny International Charismatic Bible Ministries ... Click to View Sometimes Truth makes Love hurt "You are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go to 20th Century tongues refuted section Go To Start: ... Howard Browne Promise Keepers coming Hagee, John Cornerstone church A Statement of our Doctrine: The Lord Jesus Christ We believe in the deity of Jesus Christ as the only begotten Son of God. ... Unfortunately, thanks to people like John Wimber, their teachings have been widely accepted. You can see this lax view of prophetic standards in this Arnott observation! This quote may well have ... demonic doctrine believed only by those of the whore Babylon false church - he was still revered as a true prophet by almost every major Pentecostal and Charismatic ministry (who are Trinitarian). ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/tongues-encyclopedia-pentecostal-preachers.htm

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William Barclay: Many Witnesses, One Lord Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic quote: Unitarian Barclay himself says about the Watchtower quote of him, "The Watchtower article has, by judicious cutting, made me say the opposite of what I meant to say." William Barclay. Barclay, ... The translation then becomes, to put it rather clumsily, 'The Word was in the same class as God, belonged to the same order of being as God ... John is not here identifying the Word with God. To put it very simply, he does not say that Jesus was ... In Barclay's letter to Shoemaker, he says, "that he is of the same stuff as God, that is of the same being as God" which is echoing the Athanasian creed. William Barclay was a Unitarian, not a Trinitarian Nowhere does the New Testament identify ... Jesus can still do in the world." (J. D. Douglas, Evangelical Dictionary of Theology.) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA Go To Start: ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Barclay.htm

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