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Trinity proof texts: Philippians 2:5-8 Trinity Proof Texts: Phil 2:6 Jesus is not a creature Click to View Philippians 2:5-11 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be ... They say that this was the devil's mistake in trying to be equal with God (without scriptural proof of course). But even if that was true it still doesn't help them in Phil 2:6. Our approach lays the axe at the root of the false doctrine! c. The "Arian View" of the ... He did not "empty"; He "took on" the form of a man -- i.e., was fully God and fully man -- God manifest in the flesh. Anderson, G. W., Trinitarian Bible Society, Quarterly Record no. 538, 1997, Anti Kenotic Although in his preincarnate state ... Jesus humbled Himself to become flesh, and then to become sin as He willingly went to the cross. The Bible Knowledge Commentary, Walvoord, J. F., Zuck, R. B., & Dallas Theological Seminary. · 2:6-8. The word translated nature (morph) in verses ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians2-6.htm

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Kelly, J.N.D.: Early Christian Doctrines Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian JW's Quote Kelly in such a way as to leave the impression that he is not a trinitarian or one with no Bible basis. Kelly, J.N.D.: Early Christian Doctrines Kelly is quoted in, Watchtower Magazine, Aug. 1, 1984, p 23 by Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "Of a doctrine of the Trinity in the strict sense there is of course no sign" (Watchtower, Aug. 1, 1984, pg 23, quoting J.N.D. Kelly) "Of a doctrine of the Trinity in the strict sense there is of course ... "The ideas implicit in these early catechedical and liturgical formulae, as in the New Testament writers' use of the same dyadic and triadic patterns, represent a pre-reflective, pre-theological phase of Christian belief. It was out of the raw material thus provided by the preaching, worshiping Church that theologians had to construct ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Kelly.htm

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Storr, G. C. & Flatt: Biblical Theology Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian Wierwille deceptively leaves the impression that according to Storr, Luther was a closet anti-trinitarian! Storr, G. C. & Flatt: Biblical Theology How anti-Trinitarians quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive ... to Melanchthon's wishes, and in the Augsburg Confession, the doctrine of the trinity is couched in the old Scholastic terms. " (G. C. Storr & Flatt's , Biblical Theology. S. S. Schmucker, trans., p. 301, as quoted by: The Way International, Victor Paul Wierwille) Luther was uneasy with the term trinity, not the idea of Trinity, for Luther most certainly always was a trinitarian: "On the words persona, (etc. ). . . . Much has been said, about the time of the Reformation, concerning the tendency of these terms to lead to tritheism; and among the advocates for their expulsion from theological disquisition, might be mentioned a number of the first divines of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Storr.htm

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Ralph P. Martin: The Epistle of Paul to the Philippians Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Trinitarians take both the active and passive of "harpagmos" (grasped). Martin flat out says that both are possible in the Greek. But either way, the text still teaches that ... Director of Graduate Studies Program, Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, California) How anti-Trinitarians quote the source Click to View "In this regard, Ralph Martin, in The Epistle of Paul to the Philippians, says of the original Greek: "It is questionable, however, whether the sense of the verb can glide from its real meaning of 'to seize', 'to snatch violently' to that of 'to hold fast.'"" (As quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication, John 10:30; p 416-423) ... This title could mean' on this reading, not his humanity but his transcendental state as the heavenly man who came to earth to accomplish a saving mission for the world. The doctrine of the heavenly man has been traced elsewhere in Paul's writings ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Martin.htm

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Encyclopedia Americana JW's love to quote major recognized works, but they deliberately practice selective quoting to deceptively project a view opposite to what this excellent source is saying. Americana is a ... XXVII, p. 294L., is deceptive because it projects the false impression that early Christian teaching" was not Trinitarian. "For the early Christian belief that Jesus was divine, the Son of God, and that as the risen, glorified Messiah or Lord, He was now at the right hand of God: required the use of theistic language." (Encyclopedia Americana, Trinity, p116) The correct way to quote this source would be to say that some ... It is probably a mistake to assume that the doctrine resulted from the intrusion of Greek metaphysics or philosophy into Christian thought; for the data upon which the doctrine rests, and ... Such formulas as Paul's "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit" (11 Corinthians 13:14) are not necessarily theological, that is, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Americana.htm

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Morenz, Siegfried: Egyptian Religion ... centuries of Egyptian paganism. (Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz, p254-257) The multifarious links between Egypt and Judaeo-Christian scriptures and trinitarian theology can already be traced with some degree of plausibility. ... Jesus no more borrowed from the pagans in Luke 16, (the rich man and Lazarus) any more than apostle John borrowed from the pagans in his view that Jesus was God. Deception Exposed: It is dishonest for JW's not to tell us that Morenz trashes the whole of Christianity as borrowed from the pagans not just trinity doctrine. In one of the most deceptive examples of selective quoting we have ever seen, is this: The next sentence after the JW's quote: "In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with ... theologians. -The evidence quoted above extended down to the Late period; here we may add that we also find such evidence in Greek only one generation before the beginnings of Christian theological speculation on such matters. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Morenz.htm

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The Top 10 List: "Worst of the worst" of Watchtower satanic quoting ... Yet, Weigall trashes all of Christianity and also says that the Lord's Supper, Baptism and the virgin birth and trinity are all of pagan origin! Click here for more details. Top 10 List: #6 Lyman Abbott: Dictionary of Religious Knowledge Abbot is a Christianity Trasher! Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith." Quoted by Watchtower Click to View It is dishonest for the Watchtower to not tell you the author also trashes all church organization, baptism, the Lord's supper and the doctrine of blood atonement, and trinity in the ... What Gibbon is saying, is that the Bible itself was of pagan origin, not just 4th century Trinitarian doctrine! "Gibbon was an infidel, and his unbelief lurks in every page of his work where Christianity is nearly or remotely touched upon. His skepticism leads him into manifold displays of unfairness and even into inaccuracies." (Cyclopedia of Biblical, theological and ecclesiastical literature, John ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-top-ten-list-start.htm

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Gibbon, Edward: History of Christianity Trashes trinity, incarnation and Jewish sacrifices as of pagan origin in the same paragraph! Gibbon, Edward: History of Christianity Click to View "If Paganism was ... Look at what they left out of the quote! "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians (who differed from their fellow Jews only in the belief that Jesus was the promised Messiah,) was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief. The doctrine of ... His skepticism leads him into manifold displays of unfairness and even into inaccuracies." (Cyclopedia of Biblical, theological and ecclesiastical literature, John ... Gibbon not only trashes trinitarian theology, but all of Christianity as a religion! And the Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses knows this about Gibbon's views. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Gibbon.htm

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Scholars on the Personality of the Holy Spirit Personality of the Holy Spirit: Click to View Quotes by Scholars Anti-Trinitarians will misquote scholars so frequently, that they effectively projecting the false idea that these scholars actually reject that the Bible teaches the personality of the Holy Spirit and the trinity! The personality of the Holy Spirit is a knock out against all anti-Trinitarians and automatically proves that the trinity doctrine of three persons in the one Godhead is true! Discussion: Deceptive ... a person, Jehovah's Witnesses and all Anti-Trinitarians deal with the subject of spirit by picking one of many definitions from a Greek dictionary while ignoring the rest. ... The Watchtower booklet, "Should you believe in the trinity?", said of Mt 28:19: "Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian ... At most points, however, context approves and the analogy of the NT strongly suggests that the ruah YHWH is the Holy Spirit, "in the fullest Christian sense" (Theological ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-quotes-personality-of-holy-spirit.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Mark 2:7 Trinity Proof Texts Mark 2:5-12 And Jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic, "My son, your sins are forgiven." But there were some of the scribes sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, "Why does this man speak that way? ... I am not God any more than they!" But he did not correct them, but rather reinforced their view because it was correct! Only God can forgive sin! Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #2 The apostles could forgive sins just like Christ, does that make the Apostles God? John 20:23 "If you forgive the sins of ... Jesus was claiming the power of absolution. Documentation section Correct interpretation of John 20:23: New Bible Dictionary The other is Jn. 20:23, 'If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven'. It is more than difficult to ... Two ways the apostles and ministers of Christ remit and retain sin, and both as having authority:-[1.] By sound doctrine. They are commissioned to tell the world that salvation is to be had upon gospel terms, and no other, and they ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-mark2-7.htm

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Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher: believes in Angel Christology It is the height of satanic deception for the Jehovah's Witnesses to remove the phrase between two abutting quotes: "Jesus himself may not have claimed any of the Christological titles which the Gospels ascribe to him, not even the functional designation 'Christ'" Rylands, John: Bulletin of The John Rylands Library Click to View Bulletin of The John Rylands Library quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source What ... And if it is asked why a reappraisal of Christological doctrine is urgent today, I would give at least four reasons. (1) First, is it not a pressing apologetic and catechetical need? Put more precisely, do we ... by those recent theological fashions which have disclaimed interest in any other Jesus than the kerygmatic Christ of apostolic witness and have denied that our New Testament sources can yield up any other. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Rylands.htm

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Jehovah's Witnesses abuse the divine name YHWH of my God Like all cults, they destroy the reliability of the manuscripts of the Bible. Click to View Here is what scholars have to say about a Hebrew original of Matthew: click here. YHWH ... Rather than trashing their false doctrine, they trash the Bible! Introduction: The most obvious proof that Jehovah's Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the ... Of course, Christians know that JW's add YHWH into their NWT strictly for theological reasons, but in doing so, trash the Bible! The only scholars who JW's can quote as believing in a Hebrew Matthew, are themselves Bible trashers and modernists who entirely deny ... But the Watchtower has a long history of doing just this. For example, in the "Should you believe in the Trinity" booklet, JW's reference several "scholars" who come right out and ... it is used only a few times in KJV and not at all in RSV. (Anchor Bible Dictionary, YAHWEH) Take a look at the obvious error of spelling it Jehovah as Jehovah's Witnesses demand it. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/jw-YHWH.htm

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Discussion: Eternal torment or annihilation? Obviously, nobody likes to be told their doctrine has pagan >roots, but "facts is facts!" Those who have taken the time to truly dig >deeply into the origins of this traditionalist doctrine KNOW this, ... I laid Fudge's book, The Fire that Consumes, out along side Morey's book and dug around in all my lexicons, dictionary and other resources using KJV, NIV, ASV, NASV, and RSV Bibles, and two large ... For the most part, I'll quote enough of the Annihilationist needed for clarity. Much of this was stuff written in prior discussions, not all of it in response to the Annihilationist, but covers the same material, or at least close enough for government work. Click to View 2. Revelation and Second Death the Annihilationist writes (combined from a couple different posts): >"There they will suffer a ... the Scriptures, observed, "The parable in >Luke 16:19-31, of the rich man and the poor man, has been made to >mean almost everything within the range of theological speculation" (p. >234). ... ... https://www.bible.ca/su-annihilation-refuted-discussion.htm

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False Doctrine of Modalism: As taught by the United Pentecostal ... ... Modalists, being Calvinists, believe in the false doctrine of Total Hereditary Depravity of man (all men inherit the guilt of sin of Adam). One of the theological problems with Depravity is trying to explain how this ... In other words, the Son had both beginning and END! What heresy! Click to View History of Modalism: Modalist false account of History: Truthful Historical record: Click to View "We should remember that the New Testament writers had no conception of the doctrine of the trinity, which was still far in the future at the time ... Cyprian and others claimed these Modalists were Patripassians); Sabellius denied that he was a Patripassian. (Schaff admits that the Patripassians did not mean a real suffering but only a sympathy. Would any Trinitarian ... Modalists really never give an answer. But interesting Jesus does in the next verse of Jn 17 that they fail to quote: "I in them, and Thou in Me, that they may be perfected in unity" v23. Bad news for Modalists! Jesus ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism.htm

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Sabbathgate 1888 by Kerry Wynne ... will be taking a look at the highly damaging information that has deliberately been suppressed by the Seventh-day Adventist Church in regard to the Sabbath, Ellen White, and the Sanctuary Doctrine. ... The more incredible any available theory is, the greater demand there is for one's arguments to be strong. In view of the extreme difficulties he has in supporting the first of these two ... New Testament Times (Edinburgh: (Oliver & Boyd, 1964), p. 72; Eduard Lohse, art. "Sabbath," Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, 7:9. [Credit for this concept goes to Robert Brinsmead, and it is his ... It is fascinating to see the way these early SDA leaders dealt with this problem. Although a bit long, it is well worth your study. Here is an extended quote from the 1895 edition of Replies to ... It was discovered that the heathen didn't rest from work on Sunday. "In the early centuries of the Church's history down to the time of the Emperor Constantine it would, in any case, not have been ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbathgate-1888ad-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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"KJV Only" advocates refuted! ... If the KJV translators were inspire, why did they use a marginal reference to the apocrypha: Click to View If God always gives the world his word in one language (as KJV advocates say of English), ... Why should Bible students throw out their Greek dictionaries and buy an "archaic English" dictionary? Are there not word pictures in the original Greek words that the English cannot easily convey? ... Froy (or Roy), who took the disputed words from the Latin Vulgate? (we are not disputing the doctrine of the trinity, just the validity of the last half of this verse) How do you explain the grammatical error in ... Among the criticisms levelled at Erasmus one of the most serious appeared to be...that his text lacked part of the final chapter of I John, namely the Trinitarian statement concerning 'the Father, ... So the first Christened Emperor [Constantine] (at the leastwise that openly professed the faith himself, and allowed others to do the like) for strengthening the Empire at his great charges, and ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm

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Encyclopedia of Pentecostal History of Tongues: 150 AD - 1901 ... ... Many of them were consequently persecuted and killed by Rome." (Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur, 1991, p. 234) 1600-present Pentecostals selectively quote ... and preserved without any forging of Scriptures, by a very complete system of doctrine, and neither receiving addition nor [suffering] curtailment [in the truths ... His major work, Against Heresies, was an attack on Gnosticism with a defense of the Christian faith drawn from those theological and canonical traditions at his ... Gnostics Click to View During the middle of the second century, however, two movements arose alongside or within the main body of Christians, presenting a major ... and in all, perfected and completed." (Novatian, Treatise Concerning the Trinity, xxix, ANF, V, 641.) (The Charismatic Movement, 1975, Michael P. Hamilton, p ... Franciscans, Europe. ("Tongues, Gift of," B, IV, 796; "Tongues, Gift of," Smith's Dictionary of the Bible, H. B. Hackett, ad. (1870; Rpt. Grand Rapids: Baker Book ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-history.htm

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George Salmon's Infallibiliy of the church The Infallibility of the Church originated as a series of lectures delivered by Salmon (Provost of Trinity College, Dublin, and sometime Regius Professor of Divinity ... Kenny Chumbley Ludlow, IL 60949 31 December 1996 Click to View TABLE OF CONTENTS Part 1: Infallibility The Catholic Claim The Crux of the Issue Is the Church's Infallibility Self-evident Catholicism and the Bible Catholicism and Tradition The Inadequacy of Tradition Catholicism and the Doctrine of Development Tradition Obviated BY ... understand. [120] To bolster their contention that an infallible guide is essential, they dwell much on the difficulty of understanding the Scriptures, and quote St. ... acknowledged by Romanist writers. [286-87J a. THE NICENE COUNCIL [325 AD]. Constantine, at the time not a baptized Christian, and as a politician anxious above ... Of the qualities which go to make up our modern idea of saintliness. the only one to which Cyril can lay claim is zeal for orthodoxy. Of the non-theological virtues ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-salmon-infallibility.htm

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242 Dates for the End of the world!!! Date Setters! ... People did not even know the date -- peasants had no notion of chronological time, elites used a variety of systems and even those using AD disagreed. There are no theological reasons for 1000 ... Benedictus Aretius of Berne (1505-1547) calculated that 1260 years added to the year Constantine made Christianity the official religion (312+1260=1572) should be the year. (Luther Martin, Date ... John Hinkle On Trinity Broadcasting Network quote: "The most cataclysmic experience that the world has ever known sine the resurrection is going to happen." He said, God said, "On Thursday, June the ninth, I will rip the ... Our life span will be increased to 150 years or longer. Most diseases will be wiped out. 2000 Click to View soon The House of Yahweh A former kibbutz worker named Jacob - now Yisrael - Hawkins ... After all Camping has been telling everyone to leave every church on earth and listen to him alone. Therefore, the money he got to promote his false doctrine actually came from the treasuries ... ... https://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

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Acapella Responsive Singing, No Instruments in first century ... ... the spirit world, so too the Angelic Liturgy, clearly the product of Pharisee doctrine, refuted the Sadducees view that angels did not exist with a 13 week worship ... Werner adds, "The primitive Christian community held the same view, as we know from apostolic and post-apostolic literature: instrumental music was thought unfit for ... were-for whatever reasons-unrelated in the minds of the church fathers" (Dictionary of New Testament Background, C. A. Evans, W. J. Porter, Music, p713, 2000 AD) ... It would have been only natural to employ the same hymns they already knew while adding new ones to reflect their new theological understanding. Among these may be ... Abgott Baals feldzeichen" [Translation: "of the Roman idol Baal field sign"] Luther's list, dating back to 1597 AD is authentic, and the quote of Luther is valid! ... Philip Schaff: "The use of organs in churches is ascribed to Pope Vitalian (657-672). Constantine Copronymos sent an organ with other presents to King Pepin of France ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Acapella-responsive-singing-non-instrumental-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-worship-prototype-ancient-Synagogue-ritual-liturgy-worship.htm

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Personal Evangelism 101 ... The importance of baptism in the New Testament is illustrated by the use of metaphors by the inspired writers. A metaphor is defined by the Merriam-Webster Dictionary ... So we return to the initial question: "If the New Testament mentions only one church, where did all the denominations come from?" Notice this quote from Jesus: ... The apostles, Paul and Peter, warned of departures from the doctrine and practice given to them by Christ. Acts 20:28-32 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 1 Timothy 4:1-3 2 ... The objections to messianic movements which had impelled the chief priests to get rid of Jesus continued to operate, and on the theological plane the Sadducees could ... The simple worship of the early church was corrupted gradually before the time of Constantine. J.L. Mosheim giver four reasons for these corruptions in his book ... There are two attitudes toward the silence of scripture: A. Denominational view - "We can practice things not found in the New Testament. We must avoid only those ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-brent-hunters-evangelism-101.htm

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McKenzie, John L.: Dictionary of the Bible Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian The Watchtower takes little bits of McKenzie's comments on Jn 1:1 (a god) and leaves the false impression in the mind of the reader that McKenzie agreed with the JW's mistranslation. What is clear, is that when McKenzie says Jesus is a divine being, he is saying that Jesus is in that unique class of divine being with the Father and the Holy Spirit, to the exclusion of all others. Jehovah's Witnesses satanically redefine the meaning of the phrase, "divine being" into something different than what McKenzie meant. McKenzie, John L.: Dictionary of the Bible Click to View "Jn 1:1 should rigorously be translated . . . 'the word was a divine being.'" "Dictionary of the Bible", by John L. McKenzie, 1965, p. 317, as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) What they left out to deceive you: In the words of Jesus and in much of the rest of the NT the God of Israel (Gk. ho theos) is the Father* of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-McKenzie.htm

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William Smith: A Dictionary Of The Bible Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Misleading quote: trinitarian Smith does not believe that Jesus is a creature, for he openly states that Jesus is called "Jehovah". Plural of Majesty did not exist until after the entire Old Testament was completed meaning it is impossible for a poetic device to be used, when it did not exist! The first use of "plural of majesty" by the Jews was about 200 AD. Click for more on the "plural of majesty" argument. William Smith: A Dictionary Of The Bible Click to View How the Watchtower quoted the source: "The fanciful idea that [elo-him] referred to the trinity of persons in the Godhead hardly finds now a supporter among scholars. It is either what grammarians call the plural of majesty, or it denotes the fullness of divine strength, the sum of powers displayed by God.'" (William Smith: A Dictionary Of The Bible, p220; quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Smith.htm

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International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ISBE) Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Leaves the false impression that ISBE reject trinity, that Jesus is a creature and that Trinity had no foundation in scripture, but is of pagan origin. International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ISBE) What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "In the earliest thinking of the Church the tendency when speaking of God the Father is to conceive of Him first, not as the Father of Jesus Christ, but as the source of all being. Hence God the Father is, as ... What they fail to tell the same article also says: "Introduction. Though "trinity" is a second-century term found nowhere in the Bible, and the Scriptures present no finished trinitarian statement, the NT does contain most of the building materials for later doctrine. In particular, while insisting on one God, it presents Jesus Christ as the divine Son in distinction from God the Father, and probably presents the Holy Spirit or Paraclete as a divine person distinct from both. Obvious ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-ISBE.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: 58 Triadic Bible Texts Trinity Proof Texts: 58 Triadic Bible Texts Click to View 58 Triadic Bible Texts Here are a collection of texts that prove the concept of the trinity, is clearly imprinted upon every page of the New Testament. These triadic (patterns of threes) texts are arranged in the order they appear in the Bible. Click to View Analysis of Triadic passages showing interchangeability Click to View A refutation of Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals to this material. Click to View Use this material as an interactive Bible class in church! Analysis of Triadic Texts showing interchangeability of terms: Interchangeability of "love": Romans 5:5-6 love of ... anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. " A refutation of Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals to this material. Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 "Your triadic passages are based upon the assumption that the doctrine of a triune Godhead is true. The mere mention of these names we are not justified in concluding that they are evidence of the trinity. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-text-triadic.htm

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Hislop, Alexander: The Two Babylons Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian JW's and Christadelphians should be spanked for quoting Hislop as saying trinity came from the Pagans! Hislop's actual view is that God revealed Himself as Trinity from the beginning to the patriarchs calling trinity "original patriarchal faith" and that the pagans corrupted it! Hislop, Alexander: The Two Babylons Quoted by JW's & Christadelphians & Victor Paul Wierwille of The Way International "Trinity in Unity, In India, the supreme divinity, in ... What they won't tell you when they quote Hislop: "While overlaid with idolatry, the recognition of a Trinity was universal in all the ancient nations of the world, proving how deep mated in the human race was the primeval doctrine on this subject, which comes out so distinctly in Genesis." (Alexander Hislop, The Two Babylons, p. 18) "The ancient Babylonians held, the modern Hindoos skill hold, clear and distinct traditions of the Trinity the Incarnation, the Atonement. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hislop.htm

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Kadesh-Barnea by Henry Clay Trumbull, 1884 AD ... III., Rl. 12G and 128. 3 See Ebers s JEgypt. u, die Buck. Mose s, p. 80 /. ; also Brugsch s Hist, of Egypt, II., 19. KHETAM AND ETIIAM. 331 triumph, the inscription ... Egypt, II., 23. 5 Tafel XLVIII. 6 Brugsch, indeed, comes back to the " Cutting " idea in his later Geo- i graphical Dictionary (p. 591). 334 KADESH-BARNEA. Once more, ... I quote from Brugsch s translation (in his Hist, of Egypt, II., 56). 3 These bracketed words are of my insertion. KHETAM AND ETHAM. 335 As to the correspondence of ... Smith [W. Robertson Smith], looking at the question from a philological point of view, regards Urugsch s identification of the Khetam of the monuments with the Etham ... Dictionary of Egyptian Hieroglyph ics. Philadelphia: 1883. McCLINTOCK AND STRONG : Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature. 10 vols. New ... Thomson, W. M., 26, 62, 63, 64, 90, 103, 104, 105, 175, 230 Thotmes I., 39, 53 Thotmes III., 372 Tischendorf, Constantine von, 55, 406 Thrupp, J. F., 151, 224 ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-henry-clay-trumbull-1884ad.htm

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Schaff, Philip: 1. History of the Christian Church. 2. New Schaff ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian The Watchtower deliberately misleads the readers to the wrong conclusion that Philip Schaff, believes the origin of trinity is from the "pagan doctrines" of Plato! Schaff openly states in the that trinity has its origin in the scripture. Schaff, Philip: 1. History of the Christian Church. 2. New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "The doctrines of the Logos and the Trinity ... For Jehovah's Witnesses to quote Philip Schaff and try to make him say that Trinity is borrowed from Platonism is utterly preposterous and totally deceptive as you will see. First the quote, when you read the article, is not saying that Trinity is an error! The errors Schaff refer to are not trinity! Since Schaff is a trinitarian who believes the doctrine is based upon the Bible, it should be obvious that he is referring to something else that he ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Schaff.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 5:18 For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. Click to View The irrefutable argument stated: Jesus quite clearly taught that he was equal to God. This was the clear impression that ... But who said that Jesus was making himself equal to God? Not Jesus. He defended himself against this false charge." (Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower, "Should You Believe in the Trinity?") Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 refuted Jehovah's Witnesses know they are in deep trouble with this verse and resort to tricks. They imply that Jesus did not ... The sabbath law (the fourth commandment) was a ceremonial law, and God himself gave many examples of when it can be broken right in the law of Moses. (priests in temple for example) It is important to note that we can consistently and powerfully argue that "situation moral ethics" is a false doctrine, while arguing that Jesus ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john5-18.htm

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Grant, Robert M.: Gods and the One God Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that author has no Biblical basis for believing in the divinity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit (Biblical trinity) Grant, Robert M.: Gods and the One God Quoted by Anti-Trinitarians What they failed to tell you "The Christology of the apologies, like that of the New Testament, is essentially subordinationist. The Son is always subordinate to the Father, who is the one God of the Old Testament. . . . What we find in these early authors, then, is not a doctrine of the Trinity . . . Before Nicaea, Christian theology was almost universally subordinationist." (Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant, as quoted by Anti-Trinitarians) In any event, the passage [Phil 2:6-8] makes it plain that before Christ Jesus emptied himself he was not human but divine." (Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant, p105) But Justin describes this Logos as a second God, one who proceeded from the Father ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Grant.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Micah 5:2-3 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Micah 5:2-3 But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity. Therefore, He will give them up until the time When she who is in labor has borne a ... The text is so clear that anti-Trinitarians have only one argument based upon the definition of the word translated, "goings forth", [4163 mowtsa'ah] and it is a very weak argument! Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals: The only Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal The expression, "His goings forth are from long ago" actually teaches the messiah was a ... Unlike Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians deny Jesus had any pre-human existence but teach that Jesus only existed in the mind of God from all eternity, but not actually until his conception. Christadelphians reject the doctrine of incarnation. They are delighted that the word [3318 yatsa'] is used in Micah 5:2 to denote his ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-micah5-2.htm

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Frend, W.H.C.: The Rise of Christianity Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority who opposed the Nicene creed believed Jesus is a creature and portray Constantine as practically the author of the Nicene Creed. Frend, W.H.C.: The Rise of Christianity How the Anti-Trinitarians Paraphrased the source "the controversial term, defining the son as Consubstantial with [homoousios] the father was introduced by Constantine. The term was objectionable to any Origenist bishop and had been rejected by Dionysius of ... Why Constantine put it forward we do not know. The possibility is that once again he was prompted by Hosius, and he may have been using it as a "translation" of the traditional view held in the West, that the Trinity was composed of "Three Persons in one substance," without inquiring further into the meaning of these terms. The Emperor bad spoken, and no one dared touch the creed during his lifetime. The great majority of the Eastern bishops found ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Frend.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 19:7 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View John 19:7 The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because He made Himself out to be the Son of God." Click to View The irrefutable argument stated: The Jews wanted to stone Jesus, for claiming to be the "Son of God". Such a claim was not a misunderstanding in the minds of the Jews. The fact that the term "sons of God" is used 5 times in the Old Testament of created, non-divine beings, proves that when Jesus applied the term to ... But now, in John 19:7, at the end of Jesus public ministry, having been grilled endlessly by the Jews, they still wanted to kill Jesus but the charge was because he claimed to be the "son of God". This proves that the term "equality with God" and God's son, were viewed as claims of deity by the Jews in a sense distinct from any creature. Anti-Trinitarian rebuttals: Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 Click to View The Jews misunderstood Jesus' claim to be the "Son of God". They mistakenly thought ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john19-7.htm

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Wierwille, Dr. Victor Paul: 1. Jesus Christ is Not God. 2. Forgers ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Self-Quoting Anti-Trinitarian For once JW's and other anti-Trinitarians have found someone who actually believes that trinity is of pagan origin, but look who they are quoting! One of their own! Wierwille, Dr. Victor Paul: 1. Jesus Christ is Not God. 2. Forgers of the Word What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "Clearly, historians of Church dogma and systematic theologians agree that the idea of a Christian trinity was not a part of the first century Church. The twelve apostles never ascribed to it or received revelation about it. So how then did a Trinitarian doctrine come about? It gradually evolved and gained momentum in the late first, second and third centuries as pagans, who had converted to Christianity, brought to Christianity some of their pagan beliefs and practices. Trinitarianism then was confirmed at Nicaea in 325 by Church bishops out of political expediency" (Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille, Arian, Leader of The Way ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Wierwille.htm

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Girdlestone, Robert Baker: Synonyms of the Old Testament Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority of top scholars and the author adopt the "Plural of Majesty" view of Gen 1:26 Girdlestone, Robert Baker: Synonyms of the Old Testament How anti-Trinitarians quoted it What they didn't want you to see! "Many critics, however, of unimpeachable [Trinitarian] orthodoxy, think it wiser to rest where such divines as Cajetan [a theologian] in the Church of Rome and Calvin among Protestants were content to stand, and to take the plural form as a plural of majesty." (Synonyms of the Old Testament, R. B. Girdlestone) The Name ELOHIM and the Trinity. It is clear that the fact of the word Elohim being plural in form does not at all sanction polytheism - but we have now to consider whether it may fairly be taken as a testimony to the plurality of Persons in the Godhead. It is certainly marvelously consistent with this doctrine, and must remove a great stumbling-block out of the path of those who feel ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Girdlestone.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Genesis 19:24 ... IV. The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that this was Jesus talking to Abraham, while the Father remained in heaven: Click to View More trinity quotes from the apostolic Fathers A. The unanimous opinion of the apostolic Fathers was that this was Jesus talking to Abraham, in Genesis 18. In this story, Abraham ... when they are not expressed in allegories and parables, but in determinate and simple declarations?" (Tertullian, Against Praxeas, [In which he defends, in all essential points, the doctrine of the holy trinity.] Chapter XIII.-The Force of Sundry Passages of Scripture Illustrated in Relation to the Plurality of Persons and Unity of Substance. ... Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant, against Moses?"" To utterly silence all Jehovah's Witnesses on this point, merely quote 1 Timothy 6:16, "who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.". The official interpretation of the Watchtower book company, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-genesis19-24.htm

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Metzger, Bruce M. and Coogan, Michael D., Editors; Daniel N. ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Trinitarian Anti-trinitarians selective quote in such a way to mislead to reader into a conclusion that is opposite to what the text is saying! Metzger, Bruce M. and Coogan, Michael D., Editors; Daniel N. Scholwalter, author: Oxford Companion to the Bible Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation," "Erroneous" and "pernicious" "reprehensible" "If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature) What Anti-Trinitarians quote: What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "Because the Trinity is such an important part of later Christian doctrine, it is striking that the term does not appear in the NT. Likewise, the developed concept of three coequal partners in the Godhead found in later creedal formulations cannot be clearly detected with the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Metzger.htm

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Bowman, Robert M.: Why You Should Believe In The Trinity Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Give false impression that if intimate details of trinity are not in the Bible that Jesus is a creature. Bowman, Robert M.: Why You Should Believe In The Trinity What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "The New Testament does not contain a formalized explanation of the trinity that uses such words as trinity, three persons, one substance, and the like." (Why You Should Believe In The Trinity, 1989, Robert M. Bowman Jr.) What they fail to tell the same book also says: That Bowman plainly says that the scriptures teach the deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. That Bowman is contrasting the undeveloped trinitarian beliefs of the apostles, (who believed in the deity of Christ but had not yet come to grips with the impact on the oneness of God issue) with the developed creedal explanations in Nicea 300 years later. Our comment Just because the Bible fails to "fully develop" trinity doctrine to the same extent as ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Bowman.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Revelation 22:3 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Revelation 21:22; 22:1-5 "I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple." ... "Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. There will no longer be any ... They don't comprehend the irrefutable power of the pattern of "singular use" in the Book of Revelation and specifically Rev 20:6. D. Jehovah's Witnesses share theology with Catholics: Click to View Mariolatry In a bizarre twist, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses actually share the same theological argument in allowing worship of creatures. "Mariolatry" is derived from two words: "Mariam" [Mary], and latria or latreuo [divine worship]. Both latria or latreuo are different ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-revelation22-3.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: 2 Corinthians 13:14 and Philippians 2:1 ... Trinity Proof Texts Click to View 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all. Philippians 2:1-2 "If therefore there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining ... Only Modalists believe there is no distinction between the three and that they are one person. All we need to do is prove that the Holy Spirit is a person from this verse. Since all anti-Trinitarians deny that the Holy Spirit is a person, trinity doctrine is proven by default. There is no in-between position: If the Holy Spirit is a person, then Trinitarians are right, if a thing, then Trinitarians are wrong. Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #2 Christians share in the Holy Spirit, in the same way they would share a pizza, that is all the verse is saying. When 4 people "have fellowship" with ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-2corinthians13-14.htm

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Parthasarathy, A.: The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals all JW's as trinitarian! Parthasarathy, A.: The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "Siva is one of the gods of the Trinity. He is said to be the god of destruction. The other two gods are Brahma, the god of creation and Vishnu, the god of maintenance. . . . To indicate that these three processes are one and the same the three gods are combined in one form."(The Symbolism of Hindu Gods and Rituals, A. Parthasarathy, Hindu, Bombay, as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) What they fail to tell the same article also says: Parthasarathy is a Hindu who would review the Watchtower concept of God and label all JW's as trinitarian! Our comment There are only vague parallels between the Hindu trinity and the Christian trinity. For Arians (JW's, Christadelphians) to appeal to Hindus, to support their false doctrine is nothing short of incredible! Doing such is as ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Parthasarathy.htm

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How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their ... Click to View Should you believe in the Trinity? A Satanic booklet used by Jehovah's Witnesses to deceive the public into thinking that Trinity is a pagan doctrine. How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their own people? A. Because Jehovah's Witnesses believe their organization is guided by God in all it does! Read this quote from the Watchtower magazine: "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings published by the Watchtower Society should be the thing that satisfies, that convinces, together with a comparison of these things with the inspired Word of God, the ... B. The Watchtower is an information control cult that deliberately confuses its people: 1. Jehovah Witnesses do not understand the difference between Modalism and Trinity. Jehovah's Witnesses really don't understand the difference between Trinity and Modalism. In fact Modalism is just as Anti-Trinitarian as Arianism (JW view). But in utter deception, the Watchtower applies ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decieve.htm

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Hase, Charles: A History of the Christian Church Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Trinitarian Misrepresents what Hase actually says. Hase, Charles: A History of the Christian Church Quoted by Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille, leader of "The Way International" cult, in his book: "The Origin of the Three-in-One God. Wierwille misrepresents Hase by inferring that Hase says that the Christian faith was quickly corrupted by pagan converts. Hase does not assert this, and especially does not say the Trinity a pagan doctrine. (Charles Hase, A history of the Christian church; translated from the 7th and much improved German edition by C.E. Blumenthal and C.P. Wing. New York : Appleton, 1866. pp. 53-71.) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Hase.htm

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Lamson, Alvan: The Church of the First Three Centuries Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote: Self-Quoting: Unitarian No need to misrepresent the opinions of one of their own! But it is deceptive to mention that a misquote is from a Trinitarian but not tell you when they are quoting from a fellow Arian. To quote a Unitarian theologian, as an authority to prove the pagan origin of Trinity, is about as trustworthy and believable as quoting the a Catholic Bishop to prove that Peter was the first Pope! Lamson, Alvan: The Church of the First Three Centuries Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "Summing up the historical evidence, Alvan Lamson says in The Church of the First Three Centuries: "The modern popular doctrine of the Trinity . . . derives no support from the language of Justin [Martyr]: and this observation may be extended to all the ante-Nicene Fathers; that is, to all Christian writers for three centuries after the birth of Christ. It is true, they ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Lamson.htm

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Harner, Philip B.: Journal Of Biblical Literature: Qualitative ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic quote: trinitarian The Watchtower extracts an isolated quote, and draws the opposite conclusion to what the author later states to be his interpretation. Even worse, Harner flatly denies that John 1:1c could be translated "a god" or "divine". Harner's final conclusion as to how the ... This is a satanic deliberate misrepresentation of what Philip Harner said in his article, "Qualitative Anarthrous Predicate Nouns: Mark 15:39 and John 1:1." in The Journal of Biblical Literature 92, March 1993, pp 75-87 is quoted in, "Should you believe the Trinity?", Watchtower publication. How the Watchtower quoted the source ... The Watchtower deliberately misleads the reader to define the term "qualitative" in a way contrary to Harner, as he defined it in the same article, and all other grammar reference works. It is simply satanic, for the Watchtower to use Harner in support of their false doctrine. Deception Exposed: The Watchtower extracts an isolated ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Harner.htm

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The polytheistic "henotheism" of Jehovah's Witnesses and Christadelphi ... The polytheistic "Henotheism" of Jehovah's Witnesses is apostate doctrine: Henotheists "Does not Jesus' own use of the Bible show there are other 'gods' or degrees of being 'god'?" (Jehovah's Witness false statement) Click to View New Bible Dictionary: "Henotheism: devotion to one God (or god) in a polytheistic setting." Webster's: "henotheism: the worship of one god without denying the existence of other gods" Click to View ... For starters look very closely at the quote at the top of the page. The key to grasping Henotheism, is not to think in terms of whether a god is "true or false god", but in terms of whether YHWH has approved the use of the title "god" for the individual. For example, YHWH is called the "only true God", but that doesn't phase Henotheists because they will say YHWH is the only true God, and still call Jesus, angels and Moses "Gods". The Trinitarian must focus on the apostate concept that God openly approves calling Jesus, angels and Moses "Gods". The wear the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-definition-god-watchtower-JW-henotheism.htm

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How the Koran and Muslims view of Jesus Christ Koran, (The Islamic Bible of Muslims, written about 600AD) Click to View Also visit our Islam debunked website: Islam: Truth or Myth: start page Click to View "Muslims simply cannot follow, as the Jews thus far have likewise failed to grasp, the idea of the Trinity" (as quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication) It is utterly incredible that the Watchtower or any Arian would quote from Muslims as proof that trinity is pagan false doctrine! Muslims, quote modernists like Reade to trash all of Christianity, just like Anti-Trinitarians quote from Weigall, Arthur This leaves no doubt at all in our minds regarding ... JW's have not comprehended that if they had the Governing Body themselves sit down and explain their view of God (Father-true God, Son-a god and Holy Spirit-the force or energy of God) Muslims would immediately label JW's as TRINITARIANS or TWINITARIANS! Stated differently, from the perspective of Muslims there is NO REAL DIFFERENCE between the Trinitarian ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Koran.htm

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Norton, Andrews: A Statement of reasons for not believing the ... Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Accurate quoting but, Self-quoting: Self-Quoting: Unitarian No need to misrepresent this guy! He is one of them... A fellow-Arian. To quote a Unitarian theologian, as an authority to prove the pagan origin of Trinity, is about as trustworthy and believable as quoting the a Catholic Bishop to prove that Peter was the first Pope! Norton, Andrews: A Statement of reasons for not believing the doctrines of the Trinitarians concerning the nature of God and the person of Christ Click to View "In the book A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton says of the Trinity: 'We can trace the history of this doctrine, and discover its source, not in the Christian revelation, but in the ... him in his religious views, and who knew him in the fulness of his fine powers" (A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton, 1872, Fifth edition, American Unitarian Association, Boston, MA) p ix, biographical notice) That Norton is the leader of an Anti-trinitarian "Unitarian" church. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Norton.htm

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Wells, H.G.: Short History of the World Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher It is dishonest is it to quote from Wells that trinity is pagan, when the same author trashes Jesus as our saviour. Wells, H.G.: Short History of the World What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "There is no evidence the Apostles of Jesus ever heard of a trinity" [H. G. Wells, Outline of History, 1920 Edition, p 499]." quoted by ... A large majority of those who possess and repeat the Christian creeds have come into the practice so insensibly from unthinking childhood that only in the slightest way do they realise the nature of the statements to which they subscribe. They will speak and think of both Christ and God in ways flatly incompatible with the doctrine of the Triune deity upon which, theoretically, the entire fabric of all the churches rests. ... By faith we said of that stuffed scarecrow of divinity, that incoherent accumulation of antique theological notions, the Nicene deity, 'This is certainly no ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Wells.htm

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Dunn, James D. G.: Christology in the Making, 2nd edition, 1989 Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter For JW's it is deceptive quoting. For Christadelphians it is self-quoting. Dunn, with his Christadelphian-like logos theology, labels Jw Christology as polytheism. Dunn, James D. G.: Christology in the Making, 2nd edition, 1989 What Anti-Trinitarians quote: A wide variety of quotes are used by anti-Trinitarians that are supposed to prove trinity is a false doctrine What they fail to tell the same article also says: Dunn rejects the deity of Christ: "So too the argument that Jesus is divine because he forgave sins ..." (Christology in the Making, James D. G. Dunn, 2nd edition, 1989, foreword, xxi) The ... In contrast, classic orthodoxy is that Jesus Christ is he whom the Word of God became in the incarnation. The mistake, or so it seems to me, is the equivalent of treating 'person' in the Trinitarian formula ('one substance, three persons') as 'person' in the sense that we now understand 'person', or, more to the point, in the way that Jesus of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Dunn.htm

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