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Refuted: Anti-Trinitarians misuse these passages to prove the ... ... If Arians understand how a person can be a door that we go in and out of, then they should understand a person can be used to anoint another person. Obviously there is a type and antitype that is in play here. Incense in the Old testament is said to be our prayers in the New testament. Rev 5:8. It says the incense is the prayers of the saints. The temple of stone is our bodies in the New Testament. God says "the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple" Rev 21:22 Does this mean God is not a person? Notice the antitype of the physical temple is God Himself and Christ! Likewise, Holy Spirit is the antitype of the anointing oil of the Old Testament. #8 Anti-Trinitarian Proof Text Refuted Click to View "While some texts say that the spirit "spoke," other passages make clear that this was done through angels or humans" (Reasoning from the Scriptures, Spirit, p380, Jehovah's Witness publication) The Watchtower is again up to their deceptive tricks. They know full well that many texts ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-holy-spirit-arian-proof-texts-refuted.htm

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Why Pentecostals say, "knoweldge is of the Devil" (anti-intellectualis ... Click to View "Why waste time studying the Bible when you can experience the Holy Spirit anointing" Click to View Pentecostalism is a religion that roots in emotions not the mind. They say, "You feel religion, you don't think it." Click to View The devil has deceived all Pentecostals into confusing the presence of God in their assemblies for emotional chaos! Click to View You don't learn Pentecostalism, you experience it Click to View "these are ignorant and unlearned men" Pentecostals often quote the religious Jewish leaders statement in reference to the apostles in Jerusalem, "these are ignorant and unlearned men" (Acts 4:13) Yet God chose apostle Paul to write 2/3's of the New Testament. He used a man of high ... Click to View often denounced what he called the "ecclesiastics" who rightly came against his false teachings Copeland, Kenneth Click to View Believers are not to be led by logic, he writes. We are not even to be led by good sense (The Force of Faith, 7) I don't preach ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-anti-intellectualism.htm

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Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology JW's project the false impression that ancient Babylonians would not label the Watchtower version of God as a Triad. (Father-true God, Son-a created demi-god and Holy Spirit-the force or energy of God) Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "'The Triad of the Great Gods': ... to the ancient Babylonians they would immediately label JW's as a religion who believe in a triad concept of God very similar to themselves. (Trinitarians) Stated differently, from the perspective of ancient Babylonian there is NO REAL DIFFERENCE between the Trinitarian view of God and the Arian (JW's) view of God. Ancient Babylonians would label both views as POLYTHEISM! The Governing Body really blundered when they chose this route! But the same source identifies all kinds of similarities between Christianity and pagan beliefs, like the Lord's supper. Similarities don't mean that Christians borrowed from the pagans. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Larousse.htm

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The New World Translation: A corrupt sectarian paraphrase. 1666 ... The translators used what J.B. Rotherham had translated in 1893, in modern speech, and changed the readings in scores of passages to state what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach. That is a distortion not a translation." (Julius Mantey , Depth Exploration in The New Testament (N.Y.: Vantage Pres, 1980), pp.136-137) the translators of the NWT are "diabolical deceivers." (Julius Mantey in discussion with Walter Martin) Click to View We speak the truth in Love... Click to View Like the Mormon's Bible, the NWT was translated with help of the Holy Spirit: (inspiration) If you notice the very significant Watchtower quote below, they do not claim the translators knew Greek and Hebrew, only that they were "experienced" and "anointed". By experienced, they mean that they had been JW's for a long time and would tow the party line. By "anointed", they mean inspired by the Holy Spirit. So not only do JW's believe that the Watchtower is inspired, they believe the NWT is translated by ... ... https://www.bible.ca/Jw-NWT.htm

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Four positions on the day of Christian worship The universal record of history, from the Resurrection of Christ, Christians have always worshipped on the first day of the week (Sunday) and never on the Sabbath (7th day). Sunday is not a Christian Sabbath or a day of rest, or a holy day to be kept. This quote is used by Sabbatarians, but in fact refutes their position. ... does not heed that prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.'" Thus we listen to Christ in all things and Moses in nothing. This is New Testament Christianity! Click to View #2. The Seventh-day Adventist position: Click to View 80 questions Sabbatarians don't like to be asked False Sabbatarian view: Christians originally kept the ... SDA's interpret "The Seal of God" to be "Saturday Sabbathkeeping" vs "The Mark of the Beast" which they interpret to mean "Sunday Sabbathkeeping" - not now, but AFTER an assumed national Sunday law is passed so all must choose between the two. Of course these interpretations are apostate in themselves. Click to View 80 ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-4-positions.htm

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Scholars on the Personality of the Holy Spirit Personality of the Holy Spirit: Click to View Quotes by Scholars Anti-Trinitarians will misquote scholars so frequently, that they effectively projecting the false idea that these scholars actually reject that the Bible teaches the personality of the ... The Holy Spirit is associated with God's power, but is often attributed clear personality in both the Old and New Testament. To prove the Holy Spirit is not a person, Jehovah's Witnesses and all Anti-Trinitarians deal with the subject of spirit by picking one of many definitions from a Greek dictionary while ignoring the rest. Then they say, "See spirit is nothing more than wind, the Holy Spirit is not a person." Using their same logic, that makes angels, the devil and demons even God Himself ... The Watchtower booklet, "Should you believe in the trinity?", said of Mt 28:19: "Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, and eternity? No, they do not, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-quotes-personality-of-holy-spirit.htm

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Rich man and Lazarus in Hades: Luke 16:19-31: Neo-Sadduceeian ... Neo-Sadduceeian: Herbert W. Armstrong and most modern splinter groups See what early Christians said about Hades Click to View Rich man and Lazarus: Luke 16:19-31 Bible Truth The Word Picture, pre-resurrection, view The truth in the Bible and the interpretation proven at this website (www.bible.ca) What do we ... If Arians argue that the usage of symbolic word pictures in Luke 16 proves that there is no real place where the dead actually consciously exist, then by the same logic, Jehovah Himself, doesn't exist! The use of symbolism doesn't mean there is nothing real and literal beneath the word picture! The fact that God is described in anthropomorphisms is powerful evidence that ... Arians say the corresponding spiritual meaning is about the "righteous-poor triumphing over the wicked-rich". But this concept is already taught extensively throughout the Old Testament. If this truth is already revealed clearly in the OT without the "wild fable-like details" of consciousness in the grave, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/su-hades-luke16.htm

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How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their ... A Satanic booklet used by Jehovah's Witnesses to deceive the public into thinking that Trinity is a pagan doctrine. How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their own people? A. Because Jehovah's Witnesses believe their organization is guided by God in all it does! Read this quote from the Watchtower magazine: "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content ... B. The Watchtower is an information control cult that deliberately confuses its people: 1. Jehovah Witnesses do not understand the difference between Modalism and Trinity. Jehovah's Witnesses really don't understand the difference between Trinity and Modalism. In fact Modalism is just as Anti-Trinitarian as Arianism (JW view). But in utter deception, the Watchtower applies Modalistic interpretations to a passage, then refutes it. What the average JW's doesn't understand, is that Trinitarians apply the identical logic to refute the identical thing: Modalism. Jehovah's Witnesses constantly confuse ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decieve.htm

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Modalism refuted: UPCI's Sixty Questions On The Godhead refuted ... Refuted: "Sixty Questions On The Godhead" (UPCI) Modalism Refuted! Anti-Trinitarian! United Pentecostal Church's: "Sixty Questions On The Godhead" Refuted! Click to View See modalism as taught by the UPCI Refuted at: Modalism Before noticing the questions we wish to make certain observations: It appears the questions are based upon the King James Version. The ... The expression Holy Spirit is a descriptive basically meaning separate Spirit. Godhead is an old English word for Godhood (That which makes God, God). In the New Testament it is translated from three Greek words: theios - divine, deity - meaning 1. Relating to God 2. Characteristic of God 3. Godlike (Acts 17:29); ... UPC Question #3. "Does the Bible speak of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost? Yes" In ways which show that they are not the same being. UPC Question #4. "Do these titles as used in Matthew 28:19 mean that there are three separate and distinct persons in the Godhead? No, they refer to three offices, roles, or relationships ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism-UPC-60-questions-godhead.htm

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Morenz, Siegfried: Egyptian Religion Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Christianity Morenz, Siegfried: Egyptian Religion Click to View Egyptian Religion, by Morenz Siegfried quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication Watchtower Deception exposed: How the Watchtower quoted the source ... In order to avoid any gross misunderstanding, we must at once emphasize that the substance of the Christian Trinity is of course Biblical: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The three are mentioned alongside one another in the New Testament, probably for liturgical reasons. (Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz, p254-257) Without ... the 'crown of righteousness' [2 Timothy 4:8] to which there were so many references during the last centuries of Egyptian paganism. (Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz, p254-257) The multifarious links between Egypt and Judaeo-Christian scriptures and trinitarian theology can already be traced with some degree of plausibility. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Morenz.htm

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The Ten Commandments are the Old Covenant that was abolished ... Click to View The Ten Commandments are the Old Covenant that was abolished at the cross. Click to View The logic is irrefutable: 1. The Ten commandments are the Old Covenant: Ex 34:27-28 2. The Old Covenant was abolished: Heb 8:13 3. The Ten Commandments are Therefore abolished! Actual Sabbatarian False argument: "The First Covenant that was abolished in Heb 8:13 was not the ten commandments. The ten Commandments and the Old Covenant ... There were many things associated with the first covenant: book, salt, blood, ark, tables But only one thing in the Bible is actually identified as the actual covenant itself: The ten commandments! The Ten commandments are the Sinai covenant, The old Testament, the first testament! B. The 10 commandments were the first/old covenant! This is so clear all we need to do is quote the Bible without comment: The tables are part of the abolished first covenant: Heb 8:13 When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-10=1stCoven.htm

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Discussion: Eternal torment or annihilation? ... For the Old Testament folks the idea was that God would rescue man from Sheol, not that God had intended for man to remain in Sheol. the Annihilationist wrote: >"Lest you think "poor demented, deluded the Annihilationist" has REALLY lost it here, >let me quote from an article by a well-known and respected ... the facts is more in line with my view than the Annihilationist's. Lewis rejects the Annihilationist's proposition saying that the death of the body does not mean non-existence for the transcendent part of man. Our well respected professor Lewis offers no clothing for the Annihilationist's emperor. 8-) We see this same picture in the story of Lazarus and the Richman, in a place of waiting, from which, at the resurrection, men will be re-united with their bodies to await the final judgment. (the Annihilationist labors to remove the story from consideration, but his conclusions do not match the facts, see later comments) Though the Old Testament does not say much about the early ... ... https://www.bible.ca/su-annihilation-refuted-discussion.htm

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Encyclopædia Britannica Neither view is very likely (Encyclopædia Britannica, 1971, Constantine, Vol. 6, p. 386) The Watchtower portrays Constantine as a pagan sun worshipper who had no faith in Christ and was practically the sole author of the Nicene creed. Amazing, in the same article they say "Constantine had no understanding" and then imply here that he drafted the final text! But a few paragraphs before the Watchtower quote, Britannica rejects the notion that Constantine's conversion was politically motivated! As ... Extremely deceptive! "Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: `Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' ... of Jesus Christ; the Holy Spirit was viewed not as a personal figure but rather as a power and appeared graphically only in the form of the dove and thus receded, to a large extent, in the Trinitarian speculation. Introduction of Neoplatonic themes. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Britannica.htm

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Carpenter, Edward: The Origins of Pagan and Christian Beliefs ... Mary." (Edward Carpenter, Pagan And Christian Creeds , p202, quoted by Muslims) Deception Exposed: First, we want to say that the Muslims have used no deception or misrepresentation in their use of Carpenter's book. We deny that Carpenter's conclusions are valid, for it is preposterous to suggest that the source of Christianity is Pagan, given that Islamic faith is 600 years younger. At the very worst, Carpenters book proves both Christianity and Islam are both of Pagan origin! However, the flaw in Carpenter's logic is simple: The fact that there was similarity of ideas between major world religions does not mean one borrowed from another But for Anti-Trinitarians to quote Carpenter's book as proof Trinity is of pagan origin, is dishonest, unless they are willing to tell you that he also trashes the whole of Christianity as of pagan origin. Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Carpenter.htm

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The Incarnation of God, the Son: Jesus Christ ... Whatever that is supposed to really mean, they never tell us specifically, but seem to take refuge in a definition that is as much an oxymoron as it incomprehensible. "Emptying himself of himself" sounds clever enough, until you realize that it can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean. The entire notion of "emptying by adding" makes Jesus into more than what he was before, not less, meaning exactly opposite to the definition of emptying. ... Jesus did not "empty himself of himself" at the incarnation, for there was no change in his humility before and after. Rather Jesus emptied himself of the "form of God" and "equality with God". Here Jesus reduced his rank, from God to slave. He was as humble when ranked as God, as he was as a slave. 4. Unitarian Dilemma: anti-trinitarian The "Unitarian View" of the Phil 2:6 violates the context as much as it is an assault on logic. The Jehovah's Witnesses, for example, claim that Jesus being a creature, showed us an example of humility by not ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-incarnation-Jesus-god-son.htm

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The Error of the Catholic Nicene Trinity Click here for Trinity Mouse Rollover Graphical Helper Click to View Biblical Trinity Vs. Catholic Trinity Do you know the difference? Click to View Neither Catholics or Jehovah Witnesses understand the difference between 1st Century Biblical Trinity ... As you read the quotes below, it is essential for you to identify the "Trinity that is found in the Bible" vs. the "Trinity that is not found in the Bible"! All the Trinitarian authors below make reference to both in each statement. If you do not ... We recommend you print the quotes and circle with two different coloured pens each type of trinity found in the statements. In the New Testament we do not find the doctrine of the Trinity in anything like its developed form, not even in the Pauline ... 1932, God, vol 2, p84, J. Schneider) In any case the orthodox doctrine in its developed form is a Trinity of essence rather than of manifestation, as having to do in the first instance with the subjective rather than the objective Being of God. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-catholic-nicene.htm

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Watchtower Deceptions: Confusing Modalism as if it were trinity ... Refuting Modalism position Confusing Modalism as if it were trinity doctrine Refuting Modalism Doctrine by calling Here is a perfect example of their deceptive and unscholarly argument: Click to View Modalism and Trinity deliberately confused in "Should ... Jehovah's Witnesses really don't understand the difference between Trinity and Modalism. In fact Modalism is just as Anti-Trinitarian as Arianism, just in a different way. But in utter deception, the Watchtower applies Modalistic interpretations to a passage, then refutes it. What the average Jw's doesn't understand, is that Trinitarians apply the identical logic to refute Modalism. Here is something that is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT for the JW to understand. When a born again Christian ... Within the text, Jesus' prayer in Gesthsemane is quoted, "Let not MY will, but YOURS take place" (Luke 22:42; emphasis in original quote). LF then asks, "if Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he?" Please take careful ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-modalism.htm

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Harnack, Adolf: Outlines of the History of Dogma Click to View Harnack, Adolf: Outlines of the History of Dogma Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Modernist and Christianity trasher! The Watchtower extracts an isolated quote in the midst of a complicated theological discussion far above the head of most JW's, then proceed to make it say the exact opposite to what the ... But the spirit of this religiousness entered into the Church and produced forms of expression in doctrine and cultus to correspond with itself. The testament of primitive Christianity-the Holy Scriptures-and the testament of antiquity-the New-Platonic speculation-were by the end of the 3d century intimately and, as it seemed, ... This is what Harnack is saying about third century. Harnack tells us that the influence of Hellenism led to "the invention of mechanically-atoning consecrations (sacraments)" not trinitarian theology! (The very thing JW's wished Harnack had said. Harnack says that the church had made no compromise with Paganism up to the 3rd ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Harnack.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Mark 2:7 ... I am not God any more than they!" But he did not correct them, but rather reinforced their view because it was correct! Only God can forgive sin! Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #2 The apostles could forgive sins just like Christ, does that make the Apostles God? John 20:23 "If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have [already] been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have [already] been retained." Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal refuted If Jesus was merely forgiving sins like men forgive sins, they would not have called Jesus a blasphemer, for the Old Testament commanded men to forgive each other. Jehovah's Witnesses are always deifying the creature by ascribing solely divine functions to a creature. ... If one man says to another, "I will not use either of my arms, until you instruct me to" does not mean that man did not previously have full personal control over the use of his arms. Rather, he has become a perfect slave. "This ain't rocket science!" JW's should be ashamed! God ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-mark2-7.htm

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The Personality & Deity of the Holy Spirit proven from the Bible ... "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" 2 Cor 13:14 Although the verse gives us no information of 4th century Trinitarian doctrine of "three in one" etc, it most certainly proves the Holy Spirit is a person. To suggest we are to be baptized in the ... jealous '" in Rom 10:19 which is a quote from Deut. 32:21 "And Isaiah is very bold and says, "I was found by those who sought Me not'" in Rom 10:20 which is a quote from Is 65:1. Click to View III. The Holy Spirit is a divine person, like the Father A. The Holy Spirit is outright Called God: Acts 5:3-4 "You have lied unto the Holy Spirit ... you have ... Heb 9:14 "Who through" the ETERNAL Spirit" Neh 9:20 "Thy GOOD Spirit" He is omnipresent: Ps 139:7-10 "Where can I flee from thy Spirit" He is all knowing: 1 Cor 2:11 "The Spirit searches the mind of God" E. The Holy Spirit speaks in the first person in the New Testament what Jehovah spoke in the first person in the Old ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-holy-spirit-personality-deity.htm

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Earliest evidence for the New Testament canon This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! 2. This of course does not mean that ... Basilides was a Gnostic heretic who lived about 117-138 AD. Basilides, however, quoted from 1 Corinthians prefacing the quote with: "the scripture says". I. Evidence to support the early canon: 1. The use of "Nomina Sacra": a. Although non-inspired books also contained these abbreviations for special words, it does prove the existence of a special collection of books. 2. The Codex Form rather than scrolls. a. It is quite amazing, but the New Testament breaks with the Old Testament tradition of ... Although the titles are not inspired, the fact that all the manuscripts employ the same titles for each book, strongly argues for an early and unified canon of scripture. c. "In view of the unanimity on this point of the tradition of the Church which ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-earliest-evidence.htm

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"Sunday keeping" DID NOT originate in the pagan religion of Mithraism ... Click to View Sunday is not of pagan origin! If it is then so is the Sabbath! Click to View When Sabbatarians quote books to prove Sunday originated with Sun worship and Mithraism, these same books also say that the Sabbath was of pagan origin from ... logic, as you will see, if Sunday originated with Mithraism, then the Sabbath originated with the Babylonians. For when you check their sources for the origin of Sunday, the same sources say Sabbath is a Babylonian origin! Of course all the quotes the Sabbatarians use are worthless because they are written by Bible haters who say all of Judaism and Christianity is of pagan origin! Weigall Trashes the whole of Christianity as being of Pagan origin including the Sabbath! Click to View Contents of The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall Notice #28 says Sunday is of pagan origin and #29 says the Sabbath The Twelve Disciples Derived From Zodiac: p25 The 27 books of the New Testament Canon is invalid: p37 The name Mary is of pagan ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-Mithraism.htm

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The false doctrine of Roman Catholic apostolic succession! ... The New Testament bishops were not successors to the apostles nor did they in any way resemble present day Catholic bishops. Their qualifications are clearly disclosed in 1 Tim. 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9. We quote Paul's words to Timothy here for you careful consideration: "This saying is true: If anyone is eager for the ... Instead of having several bishops (or elders) overseeing one church, they have one bishop overseeing several churches. The Council of Nicia in Cannon 8 forbad having more than one bishop in a city (Disciplinary a Decrees of the General Councils, p. 34). Click to View Catholic Mis-Translation In the New Testament the words "elder," "bishop," or "pastor" are ... For example, "The word 'priest' is derived from the Greek presbyter..." (My Catholic Faith, p. 129). This is another example of their twisting of the Scriptures to prove their own doctrine. The Greek word "presbyter" does not mean "priest" and no reputable Greek scholar has ever rendered it as such. The word simply ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-apostolic-succession.htm

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Does the RC church have more authority than the Bible? ... Christ makes here a solemn prediction that no error shall ever invade His Church, and if she fell into error the gates of hell certainly prevailed against her." (The Faith of Our Fathers, p. 55). The Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, by W.E. Vine defined the word "hell" of Matt. 16:18 as, "HADES, the region of departed spirits of the ... Jesus said, "...I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." The gates of hell shall not prevail against what? They would not prevail against Christ building His church. Click to View Pillar And Ground Of Truth Catholics sometimes quote 1 Tim. 3:15 which states, "...The church of the living God, the pillar and mainstay of the truth" to prove that the church is invested with authority to legislate in divine matters. (See Father Smith Instructs Jackson, p. 35; The Question Box, p. 96). The phrase "pillar and ground of truth" does not mean that the church is the originator of truth, or that it can make or change the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-church=pillar.htm

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Apostate church organization: 150-250AD: The rise of the single ... ... But now that I have learned from information given me that their mind was lurking in some hole of heresy, I will make a point of coming to you again: so, brethren, expect me speedily. Knowing then, brethren, of what kind of heresy was Marcion- [Here follows a sentence where the text is faulty.]... From others who used this very gospel-I mean from the ... E. Roman Catholics and Orthodox love to quote from Ignatius: Click to View Outline on the Fraudulent forgeries of Ignatius Now of course, Roman Catholics and Orthodox simply cannot accept that all of Ignatius writings are forgeries. He is their "organizational and hierarchical savior"! They desperately need Ignatius. The Bible doesn't help them. No other post-apostolic writer before 200 AD helps them. Remember, even Roman Catholic and Orthodox scholars agree with us: "In the New Testament, the terms bishop and presbyter are used interchangeably. This is evident from the following passage from Titus 1:5-7." (THE WAY: What Every ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-150-250AD.htm

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Trinity: Arius and the Nicene Creed It affirmed that Christ is not truly divine but a created being. (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1979, Arianism, Vol. I, p.509) "Arianism: Up to this point the Trinitarian debate had taken place entirely in the West. We now move to the East, where the ... Arius' view of Christ was much inferior to that of either Theodotus in the West or of Paul of Samosata in the East. ... They satisfied the deep-rooted Greek idea that God cannot be the creator of the material universe. (A Short History of the Early Church, Harry R. Boer, p113) From the outset, the controversy between both parties [Arius & Nicenes] took place upon the common basis of the Neoplatonic concept of substance, which was foreign to the New Testament itself. It is no wonder that the ... The Semi-Arians, who thought it enough to admit the Son's likeness to the Father, but would not allow the second Person to be equal to or consubstantial with the first, were driven by the force of logic, to make the Holy Ghost a creature. (A Catholic ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-history-arius.htm

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List of 300 Old Testament quotes in New Testament ... Dependence on these Targums cannot be demonstrated conclusively, but the mere fact that there was a connection with the tradition represented by the Targums is already an interesting result, especially in view of the disputed problem of their dating. However, the forms of quotation and allusion to the Old Testament in ... It is perhaps known best for its famous JPS Tanakh, the translation of the Hebrew Bible in English from the original Hebrew. Matthew Old Testament Quotes | Go to top NT Reference quote OT Source Quote New Testament: New English Translation (NET) Septuagint LXX Vaticanus 325 AD Masoretic MT Jewish Bible JPS Matthew 1:23 Isaiah 7:14 ""Look! ... Do you desire to kill me in the same way in which you killed the Egyptian yesterday?" And Moses became afraid and said, "If it is so, this matter has become known."" (Exodus 2:14) "He retorted, "Who made you chief and ruler over us? Do you mean to kill me as you killed the Egyptian?" Moses was frightened, and thought: Then the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/List-of-300-Old-Testament-passage-quotes-in-New-Testament-Septuagint-Codex-Vaticanus-LXX-Masoretic-MT-Jewish-Tanakh-Bible.htm

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Pentecostalism: Worshipping God with your mind in neutral! ... See also A. R. Hay, "Counterfeit Speaking in Tongues" in What is Wrong in the Church? Vol. 2 (Audubon, N.1.: New Testament Missionary Union, n.d.), 15-53.) Testimonies by Pentecostal-charismatic believers describe exactly the same kinds of experiences. Charismatics who experience various states of euphoria attribute their experiences to certain gifts of the Holy Spirit, particularly tongues. The common testimony is, "It feels so good. I never felt this way before! It must be of God." But does a good feeling mean their experience is from God? Not necessarily, as we are about to see from the Corinthian experience. (Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur, 1991, p. 164) Click to View Qigong (Dr. Yan Xin, Qigong Master) Click to View "What ... I was taught that whenever we had questions . . . pray in tongues. Copeland, Kenneth Click to View Believers are not to be led by logic, he writes. We are not even to be led by good sense (The Force of Faith, 7) I don't preach doctrine, I preach faith. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-neutral-mind.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Micah 5:2-3 The Only Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal refuted below: Hebrew word links and definitions: (Strong numbers inserted) Micah 5:2-3 But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth3318 for Me to be ... Hosea 6:3 uses the "singular/non-plural" [4161 mowtsa'] in reference to God, making it more likely, according to Jehovah's Witness logic, that God had a single origin/creation point. "So let us know, let us press on to know Jehovah. His going forth ... If you began in past eternity, YOU HAVE NO BEGINNING! If Jesus' starting point was past eternity, that means he did not have a beginning! When anti-Trinitarians attempt to define the Hebrew word, "OLAM" here to mean less than "forever" it cuts both ... His goings forth [4163 mowtsa'ah] are from long ago, From the days of eternity." Word #1 "goings forth" Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View Word #2 "go forth" His goings ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-micah5-2.htm

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Refuted: The Christadelphian view of Resurrection, Judgement ... ... There is a universal law of morality in the world that every culture clearly understands. (lying, stealing, adultery etc.) Finally v 16 says that these "ignorant Gentiles, who had never heard about God's law WOULD BE JUDGED by Christ. Click to View Christadelphian Proof Text ... Further, the context is the "cup of God's wrath" is used elsewhere in Jeremiah: (And echoed in Revelation) Notice the expressions "sleep and not wake up" (Jer 51:39) and " be drunk, vomit, fall and rise no more" (Jer 25:27) mean nothing more than to die physically. Notice also that Jerusalem was to also drink this cup from which, "They would rise no more". So according to Christadelphian logic not even Israel would be raised from the dead, ... God's people will respond to the gospel of Christ and although dead in sin, will be raised at baptism from the dead as it were. This concept is indisputably taught in the New Testament. So we merely suggest that this is what Isa 26 was prophetically referring to. Of course ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/d-christadelphian-resurrection-judgement-hell.htm

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Bible Prophecy Fulfilled ... The error of this approach is becomes evident when you try to do the same thing in the dual prophecies of Isaiah 7:14; Isaiah 53 and 2 Samuel 7:14. The correct approach is to view all of Matthew 24 as a dual or triple prophecy. f. Ezekiel was dual ... Misha and Talmud used Midrash Hermeneutic: "Although in the rabbinic corpus mdrš may mean study or inquiry in a general sense, its main use in these documents is to designate Scriptural interpretation. In the rabbinic collections the term signifies both the process whereby Scripture is expounded and the product of that exegesis." (ABD, Midrash) 6. Jews who dismiss New Testament fulfillments are often both ignorant and hypocritical: a. The interpretive methods used by modern Rabbis in the Tanakh ... Acts 20:7 is the only recorded Sunday worship service in the New Testament by way of example. Using the logic that "if the text says they met on the first day of the week to break bread, that they met EVERY first day of the week to break bread" is an ... ... https://www.bible.ca/prophecy/welcome.htm

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100 Sabbath keeper stumper questions. Sabbath-keeper Stumper Questions. Sabbatarians will be up all night, unable to rest on the sabbath, trying to solve truth problems. Click to View Stumper Questions Sabbatarians don't like to be asked! Amazing Facts about the Sabbath and other stumper ... void of any reference to the Sabbath or any other law/restriction given by Moses? 13. If breaking the Sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament (Exodus 31:14 & 35:2), why is it not condemned in any way, shape, or form in the New Testament? ... position of the Seventh-day Adventist church is that the change from Saturday to Sunday took place in 140 AD, doesn't that mean that they have come a long way from Whites 325 AD and have only 40 more years to travel to reach the truth of the ... every produced even one historical quote (75-500AD) that says Christians kept the Sabbath? 27. If the Sabbath is not a ceremonial law, then why is it lumped into the same identical class of "holy convocations" as the rest of the Jewish feast days? ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbath-questions.htm

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Largest Audio/Video library of Pentecostal Manifestation Heresy ... ... It came in a package of offence. I've come to the conclusion that my gift is offending people. what can you do? You know I mean. I think Christians are to sensitive anyway you know, always winging. but it is a gift. I don't need to even say anything. ... I call these glasses glory shades. I'm sure Moses would have worn them if they had them in the old testament. Whoahhh, Now hang in please, hang in. fasten your seat belt. we may have a bit of turbulence tonight. and you might want to run, but hang on in. lets go back to the reading." See and hear the video clip! The behaviour of Pentecostals on this video is identical to many occult world religions John Scotland Click to View Manifestation: Charge! [1:33 minutes] Click to View Here is new one! ... Rodney Howard-Browne is interpreting the tongues as he hears them. (Copeland says a little then waits for Browne to interpret) Amazingly Browne begins to quote 1 Corinthians 1:14 but completely applies this simple verse in a false way. Browne says, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-audio-video-documentation.htm

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Sola Scriptura was not impeded by a 10% of people could read ... Extra-Biblical Oral Tradition Arguments Refuted: Click to View "Sola Scriptura is impossible since only 10% of people could read in 100 AD" False arguments that Catholics and Orthodox use to prove oral extra-scriptural church tradition are refuted. ... Scriptures were possessed in homes and always accessible in the synagogues. They were read every week in the assemblies and memorized by individuals. Being illiterate does not mean someone is stupid or unintelligent. Even if it was true that only 10% ... Deuteronomy 6:6-9 The eunuch is a Gentile convert to Judaism with his own personal copy of Isaiah! Perhaps he had the entire Old Testament. But the fact remains, that the scriptures were readily available to anyone who wanted them. "So he got up and ... If the ability to read is an essential pre-condition to sola Scriptura, then how do illiterate Catholic and Orthodox pew-dwellers know the Catholic and Orthodox Catechisms? Would not the same logic apply to illiterates in the Roman Catholic and ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-illiteracy-rate.htm

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The Dugger-Porter Debate on Sunday as the Lord's Day W. CURTIS PORTER A. N. DUGGER Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE "you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA NOTE: Page numbers from book imbedded in text. Buy This Book THE PORTER-DUGGER DEBATE 5 THE SABBATH QUESTION ... So my friend says this means all of the ten must be kept. But did he ever notice that in verse 8 James quoted a commandment not found in the ten but in what Dugger would call the law of Moses. Does this mean that all of the Mosaic law is to be kept now? But James did not quote the Sabbath commandment at all. He did not say to keep it. The law he referred to was "the law of ... We hear him say: "For if that which was done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious" (2 Cor. 3:11). This ends the Sabbath, written and engraven in stones, unless Dugger can find it re-established in the New Testament. 3. Christians are not under the law. Sabbatarians con- 28 THE ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-debate-porter-dugger.htm

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Is the RC church infallible and unable to make errors? Click to View The Pope and the Catholic Church are quite fallible. Catholics say Yes! Truth says No! Is The Catholic Church Infallible? None will deny the importance and need of infallibility in religion. To assure man of his salvation, he wants and ... Jesus said, "Thy (God's) word is truth." (John 17:17). The Holy Spirit guided the apostles into "all truth" (John 16:13) and they alone with the inspired New Testament prophets wrote God's truth for us (Eph. 3:2-5). They were God's chosen ambassadors ... Furthermore, all know that the Catholic Church has at times, and still does, e.g., the Lenten fast, enjoined abstinence from foods. The Catholic writer in our initial quote said, "Christ sent forth his church clothed with his own and his Father's ... the Catholic Church." (My Catholic Faith, pp. 148-149). In the above quotes, the Catholic writers declare that Christ made His church perpetual and indefectible. They mean that the church could never defect from truth or cease to be the true church. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-church-infallible.htm

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Septuagint 250 BC: Goshen of Arabia Seemingly not put off by the discrepancies in meaning between the Hebrew text and the Septuagint, the New Testament writers quoted from the Septuagint freely." (Jeff Smelser, NTGreek.net) "Region of Egypt which the Israelites inhabited during their sojourn in that ... There is a "China Town" in ever major city, but we all know where China is not. 2. The references to the "Arabian Sea" and the "Arabian Mountains" does not mean Arabia inside Egypt, west of the Red Sea or even close by. These references simply mean the Egyptian ... who performed their translation work IN EGYPT would say Goshen was of Arabia. When those bent on keeping Mt. Sinai out of Saudi Arabia quote ancient historians who say Hebrew Goshen in Egypt was in fact Arabia, you wonder why the Israelites ever left? It simply trashes the Bible story like putting Kadesh Barnea inside the promised land at Qudeirat. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-ancient-geographers-maps-sinai-egypt-midian-arabia-kadesh-barnea-shur-septuagint-250bc.htm

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Jewish Messianic Expectation in the Dead Sea Scrolls: Luke 3 ... Prophecy: "Jesus would rise the third day" "He shall be called a Nazarene" Mt 2:23 Dead Sea Scroll: 4Q175-4QTestimonia Dead Sea Scroll: 4Q174-4QFlorilegium Click to View Digging up Bible stories! Written about 90 BC, two Dead Sea Scroll, ... For example, Isa 7:14 (virgin birth) and other key messianic prophecies are not referenced in either of these scrolls from Qumran. This does not mean that the Jews in 100 BC did not consider Isa 7:14 to be a messianic prophecy. What this means is that we have not found archeological texts (yet) where Jews quoted Isa 7:14 in a messianic application. From these two Dead Sea Scrolls, we have compiled a list of Messianic Old Testament Bible prophecies (see below) that every Jew was familiar with ... 5. In a refutation that Hezekiah was the messiah, as previously taught by some Jews from an earlier time, they actually quote Isa 9:6 as a messianic prophecy, then to on to say that Hezekiah DID NOT fulfill Isa 9:6. a. "Of the increase of his ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/bible-manuscripts-dss-dead-sea-scrolls-4Q174-4QFlorilegium-4Q175-4QTestimonia-Messianic-prophecy-Mt2-23-he-shall-be-called-a-Nazarine-Nazarite-branch-Jesus-90BC.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based ... Everyone, both Orthodox and Arian, understood Wisdom to be Christ. The question was, what does this verse mean. Arius' answer was that the Logos is a creature, albeit the highest, noblest, and best of creatures. Those who sought to uphold the ... of Alexandria, De Decretis or Defence of the Nicene Definition, 13) Roman Catholics today apply Proverb 8:22 to Mary not Christ at all! I guess after getting beat up for so many years that the wisdom of proverbs was a woman, they changed their view. ... of Proverbs, 8:22-31" (New Advent, Catholic encyclopedia, The Blessed Virgin Mary, Old Testament Types And Figures Of Mary) Christadelphians, who are Arians that reject Jesus existed before his conception, also reject that Prov 8:22 refers to Christ! ... the interpretation was suddenly reckoned as false." (The Formation Of Christian Dogma, Martin Werner, p158. Note: Werner is a liberal modernist whom Catholics and Orthodox frequently quote from) This all proves that tradition did not catch the error. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-fathers-mistakes.htm

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"KJV Only" advocates refuted! ... The TR itself was based on a very few, late scripts, not one of which contained the entire Greek New Testament and none earlier than the 12th century. In the matter of the book of Revelation, a missing page was translated from the Latin Vulgate BACK ... Just because they wrote in the margins doesn't mean the text is not accurate! Incredible!!! Imagine this. The KJV translators specifically dispel any notion that they were specially guided by God in the preface, but didn't know that what they wrote in the preface was wrong. God was inspiring their choices of manuscripts! Unanswerable question: "If the translators died not knowing they were inspired, HOW DID YOU FIND THIS OUT"??? By Steve Rudd Click to View Questions for "KJV only" advocates: ... Among the criticisms levelled at Erasmus one of the most serious appeared to be...that his text lacked part of the final chapter of I John, namely the Trinitarian statement concerning 'the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm

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Catholicism's SHOCKING attitude toward the Bible! ... Catholic writers usually only quote the first verse (verse 20). However, when putting the two verses together, it is easy to see that Peter is not saying one cannot have a private interpretation of Scripture, but is teaching that no prophecy of Scripture ever ... The Scriptures will instruct one to heaven if he will only avail himself of them (2 Tim. 3:15). Isaiah prophesying of the coming New Testament Way, said, "This shall be unto you a straight way, so that fools shall not err therein" (Isa. 35:8). We freely admit that many do not understand the Scriptures today. When men fail to do so, it does not mean that the holy writings cannot be understood. The written word of God forever remains the only guide which instructs to ... The holy Scriptures can be and are understood by those who love the truth. Those who do not love the truth declare that the Scriptures are not understandable. Click to View Private Interpretation impossible for Catholic! The case of the Ethiopian Eunuch! Catholic ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-attitude-towards.htm

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Scriptures were more important than tradition to Apostolic Fathers A conservative, bible believing perspective! God's providence gave us the 27 book New Testament Canon, not the church. God, not men decided the canon. This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures ... But when man-made church tradition teaches things directly contradictory to the Bible, we violently object. C. James Bernstein, Orthodox leader, tells us why he joined the Orthodox church. 1. The orthodox view of tradition trumping scripture a. "I needed to humble myself and come into union with the Church that produced the New Testament, and let her guide me into a proper understanding of Holy Scripture. After ... But the point remains, that Roman Catholics claim they are the apostolic church based upon tradition and Orthodox claim they are the apostolic church based upon tradition. Let me quote an Orthodox Father named Raymond L. Zell, in his booklet called, "Scripture and tradition." Pg. 2: "Wait ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scriptures-tradition-apostolic-fathers.htm

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The ministry of Dr. Hugh Ross exposed ... Scofield in his famous Bible notes, teach that the sun really was created at the start but did not appear until a dense cloud was removed on the fourth day. But without this explanation, the general reader, following the scientific view, would believe that Moses had erred. On the first ... The Hebrew word here translated "whale" is not specific and can refer to an indefinite large sea creature. But the general reader would understand the reference to mean whales. As to the "creeping things" created on the sixth day, the authoritative Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament says for Genesis 1:25, "Remes m[asculine] a reptile, collect[ively] reptiles." According to science, "creeping ... Having done this, they switch definitions and tell the public that since these moths prove evolution to be a fact, they now must be consistent and believe that phenomena that really would be evolution also are factual. Here is their logic: Birds catch more dark moths from a light ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tracks/b-hugh-ross.htm

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Bible Quiz: 100's of questions for Outdoor Fairs & Home Shows ... Christian to court. (1 Cor 6) The Bible condemns the recreational use of drugs like marijuana, shrooms and "E" ecstasy. (Gal 5:20) The New Testament authorizes the Canadian Government to execute murderers with capital punishment. (Rom 13:4) Click to View Fair questions at Outdoor festival ... (Adultery, premarital sex and homosexuality) 2. Not loving your neighbor 3. Believing false doctrine Extra (new) unused question: DOES GOD EXIST? The easiest way to prove that God exists. (Romans 1:20) 1. Is to quote a passage in the Bible. 2. take a nature walk and observe creation. 3. to touch God with your inner feelings. Click to View 8 fair questions at Outdoor festival 1998 The "Who Is Jesus" Bible quiz! ... When Jesus rose from the dead it proved that He was a great philosopher with divine insight. God a Spirit filled social reformer Supporting Bible Verse: Romans 1:4 What does the word "Christ" mean in "Jesus Christ"? Christ is Jesus' last name, like John "Doe." "anointed one" "God with us" ... ... https://www.bible.ca/evangelism/e-fairs-home-shows.htm

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The Samaritans: 720 BC The pagan half-Jews of the Old Testament ... This action was a continuation of Jeroboam's policy of separating the ten northern tribes from the one true God at Jerusalem. His famous quote: "It is too far for you to go up to Jerusalem... worship at Bethel or Dan" says it all. h. The "Samaritans" ... the Jews." (John 4:21-22) 3. In the New Testament, Jesus used the "parable of the good Samaritan" as an example of how lost Samaritans can be more moral, than those who consider themselves saved. 4. The Samaritans had three periods of development: a. ... The location of the oaks of Moreh are clearly outside the formal city limits of Shechem: "Then Hamor the father of Shechem went out to Jacob to speak with him." Genesis 34:6 Click to View 3. In 1930 BC, Jacob after he had fled from Laban back to ... The Samaritans argued that the past tense "the place in which the Lord your God has chosen for His name to dwell" can only mean Gerizim and ruled out Jerusalem. e. Ezra created the fiction that the Samaritans had chosen the wrong location for Mt. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-samaritans.htm

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Long vs. Short Egyptian sojourn: Israel spent 430 not 215 years ... ... So we have no independent error checker or alternative method of dating the birth of Jacob in 2006 BC to prove the long sojourn. So the date of Jacob's birth is directly dependant upon how we define the 430 years. c. It may or may not mean anything that half of 430 =215 years, which is the ... And I was young, about twenty years of age, when with Simeon I wrought the vengeance on Hamor for our sister Dinah." (Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs, Levi 2, cf. 4Q213 & 4Q214, 100 BC, but expanded by Christians around 192 AD, this quote likely dates to 100 BC) d. Assume Kothath was born in 1877 BC: Kohath was second born son to Levi BEFORE Jacob entered Egypt in 1876 BC: "Now these are the names of the ... Seder Olam Rabbah Steve Rudd, November 2017 AD: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections By Steve Rudd: November 2017: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go to: Main Bible Manuscripts Page Go to: Main Ancient Synagogue Start Page Go To Start: ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/Bible-Chronology-variants-theological-interpretation-Old-Testament-Book-of-Exodus-12-40-long-short-sojourn-430-or-215-years-Israel-Egyptian-slavery-textual.htm

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Psychiatry is founded upon the "medical/chemical model" which ... ... This usually precedes a statement on how there is no clear distinction between physical and mental illness. Such logic was cited as the reason for the removal of the term organic in the DSM (Spitzer et al., 1992). It is also given as the reason to rename mental disorders as brain disorders (Baker and Menken, 2001). Unfortunately, claims ... K. The chemical view was emboldened by the discovery of the cause of Parkinson's: This quote shows the focus on chemical imbalances led to the discovery of Parkinson's., it shows the general bias towards mental illness caused by broken brains. Parkinson's disease truly does have a physiological etiology (cause). But this does not mean that mental illness have a chemical cause as it commonly believed. Parkinson's is not treatable by psychiatrists anyway! For Parkinson's disease you need a real medical doctor! So although the chemical imbalance bias led to the cause of Parkinson's, no actual success have been logged in the area of mental illness. This ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-atheistic-anti-christian-medical-chemical-biological-model-vs-moral-spiritual-view.htm

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The Pattern of Congregational Benevolence in the New Testament The Pattern of Congregational Benevolence in the New Testament Introduction A. We will do two things in this study: 1. Identify each scripture in the NT that deals with benevolence 2. Look for a pattern in actions of benevolence I. Bible Texts On ... B. One church directly to another without intermediary organization like "missionary society" or "sponsoring church". Click on photo for high resolution: Click to View C. For the saints, not for non-Christians, without exception, establishing a ... One common passage they quote is James 1:27 as proof that the church is given the authority to run orphan homes and Widow homes etc. They argue that giving money from the treasury is for "all men" and not restricted to "saints only" (Members of a ... The context excludes any notion of collective church action helping non-Christians. Never once is the church as a collective even mentioned. There is no logical reason to force "we" and "us" to mean "collective church action" when the natural reading ... ... https://www.bible.ca/d-church-benevolence.htm

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Why I left the Roman Catholic church! (personal testimony) Why I left the Roman Catholic Faith. Why? For Truth's Sake! Two Personal Testimonials: Click here for Testimonial #1 Click here for Testimonial #2 Click to View Find the true church in your own home town! Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE tell us ... This I will endeavor to show in this study. The First Reason I Left Is Because The Catholics Do Not Have The Right Attitude Toward The Truth. To illustrate what I mean by this, I will explain the difference in the two sides. Those with the right ... The Catholics have no passages which mention an official interpreter and, thus, they try to support their claim through human logic and reasoning. Anytime men do such, it amounts to nothing more than human philosophy rather than Scriptural proof. The ... The church is not the Savior, but simply the body of the saved (Acts 2:47; Eph. 5:22-24). There are many passages in the New Testament which reveal that the church would not be preserved from error. Acts 20:17, 28-30; 2 Pet. 2:1-3; 1 Tim. 4:1-3; 2 ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-why-I-left.htm

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Greek Scroll Twelve minor prophets Nahal Hever 50 BC: Septuagint ... ... The quotation of this text in the New Testament (Matt 2:6) lacks the latter phrase. In its place it reads "land of Judah." In this respect the reading in 8ḤevXIIgr is noteworthy. It has oiko [s--e] fratha, like LXX, but lacks "Bethlehem."" (Micah 5:1, AYBC, 2008 AD) 4. The ... child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14) 5. Jehovah's Witnesses struggle with Micah 5:2 because they view him as a creature. If the Holy Spirit wanted to say Jesus was a creature with a beginning, He would have personally chosen to use any of the words that literally mean create like: "In the beginning God created [1254 bara]" Gen 1:1. "Let us make [6213 asah] man in our own image" Gen 1:26. "And God ... The post-Pentateuchal books were translated after the translation of the Torah, for most of these translations use its vocabulary, and several translations also quote from the Greek Torah. Since the Prophets and several of the Hagiographa were known in their Greek version to ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/bible-manuscripts-Septuagint-twelve-Greek-Minor-prophets-scroll-Nahal-Hever-Bar-Kochba-Cave-of-Horrors-letters-Dodekapropheton-Greek-8HevXIIgr-50BC.htm

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