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151: Taylor, Vincent: 1: The person of Christ in NT teaching. 2: The ...
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Anti-Trinitarians are setting up a false dilemma in the mind of the reader in that they project the false idea that if God (Jesus) becomes man through incarnation, and is subject to any type of development, that Jesus is no longer God or never was God. Taylor, Vincent: 1: The person of Christ in NT teaching. 2: The Expository Times. What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "The Gospels clearly show that the knowledge of Jesus was limited, that He asked questions for the sake of ... Our comment Vincent openly states several times that Jesus is Very God. Vincent is discussing the change that took place as a result of the incarnation of the divine pre-existent Jesus into a man. Biblical Trinity accepts the full manhood of the incarnate divine Christ. Deception Exposed: Anti-Trinitarians are setting up a false dilemma in the mind of the reader in that they project the false idea that if God (Jesus) becomes man through incarnation, ... ...
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152: Anatomy of an Epidemic, Robert Whitaker, 2010 AD
Anatomy of an Epidemic Robert Whitaker 2010 AD Click to View Click to View See also: History of Psychiatry homepage Review: The author had blindly accepted that chemical imbalances were a proved testable ... The treatment turns a period of crisis into a chronic mental illness." -AMY UPHAM (2009 fn 1) Paraphrase it and use this quote without refererncing it Prior to 1955, history tells us, the state ... I got off the other meds and took only this one drug. I got better. I could start to plan. I wasn't talking to the devil anymore. Jesus and God weren't battling it out in my head." Her father put it ... But penicillin was effective only against gram-positive bacteria (microbes that took up a stain developed by Danish scientist Hans Christian Gram), and after the war ended, Berger sought to find a ... He enrolled there in January of 2008 with dreams of becoming a journalist and a writer, and in the fall, he became managing editor of the school's newspaper. Under his leadership, the newspaper won ... ...
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153: Bettenson, Henry: Documents of the Christian Church
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority who opposed the Nicene creed believed Jesus is a creature. Bettenson, Henry: Documents of the Christian Church What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "The decisions of Nicea were really the work of a minority, and they were misunderstood and disliked by many" (Documents of the Christian Church, Henry Bettenson) What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: Attempts to overthrow the Nicene Formulas: The decisions of Nicaea were really the ... Anti-Trinitarians leave off the important "who were not adherents of Arius" because they want you to think that the "majority who disliked" the Nicene creed, were aligned with the Arians who taught Jesus was a creature. The "majority who disliked" firmly believed that Jesus was God, they didn't like the Greek terms used to describe Jesus deity, not that they rejected the deity itself! The opposition was also from those ... ...
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154: Bowman, Robert M.: Why You Should Believe In The Trinity
Click to View Decepto-Meter False Dilemma: Trinitarian Give false impression that if intimate details of trinity are not in the Bible that Jesus is a creature. Bowman, Robert M.: Why You Should Believe In The Trinity What Anti-Trinitarians quote: "The New Testament does not contain a formalized explanation of the trinity that uses such words as trinity, three persons, one substance, and the like." (Why You Should Believe In The Trinity, 1989, Robert M. Bowman Jr.) What they fail to tell the same book also says: That Bowman plainly says that the scriptures teach the deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. That Bowman is contrasting the undeveloped trinitarian beliefs of the apostles, (who believed in the deity of Christ but had not yet come to grips with the impact on the oneness of God issue) with the developed creedal explanations in Nicea 300 years later. Our comment Just because the Bible fails to "fully develop" trinity doctrine to the same extent as the Nicene ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Bowman.htm
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155: John Calvin: Commentary On The Gospel According To John (Translated ...
Jehovah's Witnesses create a false dilemma in an effort to prove their interpretation of John 10:30. They try to project the idea that if Jesus was not teaching He was "made of the same stuff as the Father", then he was a creature. In fact, the passage clearly proves Jesus was divine, because twice the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for making himself out as being God. Jesus never denied he was God. John Calvin: Commentary On The Gospel According To John; A new translation, from the original Latin, by the Rev. William Pringle How anti-Trinitarians quote the source Click to View "Regarding John 10:30, John Calvin (who was a Trinitarian) said in the book Commentary on the Gospel According to John: "The ancients made a wrong use of this passage to prove that Christ is . . . of the same essence with the Father. For Christ does not argue about the unity of substance, but about the agreement which he has with the Father."" (As quoted in, Should you believe the Trinity?, Watchtower publication, ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Calvin.htm
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156: Trinity proof texts: John 17:3
Anti-Trinity Proof Texts Refuted Click to View John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. (John 17:3 represents the primary proof text that Anti-trinitarians use to teach Jesus is a creature and trash the trinity. John 17:3 is to a Jehovah's Witness, what John 3:16 is to a Christian!) What John 17:3 is saying: While Jesus walked the earth, he took off the outward robes of deity and put on the robes of a servant. (Phil 2:6-8 + John 13:3-20) Jesus on earth was still "very God" or the "only true God" but he took on a new role of a servant where all His efforts was to direct people to the Father as God and not to Himself. He humbled Himself, avoiding the glory of being God on earth and directing it to the Father alone. In the midst of Jesus' final prayer in the garden just prior to his arrest, we see that such submission was not merely a show while in the presence of man, but a true to the heart submission to the ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john17-3.htm
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157: Henderson, Ian: Encyclopedia International
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote & False Dilemma: Trinitarian Although Henderson correctly says that the "Nicene concept of Trinity" is not in the Bible, he would say that early Christians and the scriptures clearly taught that Jesus was both pre-existent and fully divine! Henderson, Ian: Encyclopedia International Quoted by Anti-trinitarians "The doctrine of the Trinity did not form part of the apostles' preaching, as this is reported in the New Testament." (Encyclopedia International, Ian Henderson, University of Glasgow, 1969, page 226) The deception identified Trinitarians agree! Surprise! Trinity is used in this quote to refer to the creedal definition of the trinity of the Nicene era 325 AD. All theologians (except for Arians/Jw's and modernists) agree that the New Testament and the earliest Christians viewed Jesus as God. Although Henderson correctly says that the "Nicene concept of Trinity" is not in the Bible, he would say that early Christians and ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-HendersonI.htm
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158: Trinity: plural references to God in the Old Testament: Plural ...
Trinity: plural references to God in the Old Testament: Plural nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs Click to View Click to View Grammatical Plurality & Yahweh .Click here for a detailed discussion of plurals applied to God in the Old Testament Click to View Click to View Click to View Click to View Nouns: God - elohim, Lord - adonai ... It is most unusual to have a plural adjective describing God. Single verses that contain both singular and plural references to the same person. B. Why this is proof of Trinity in the Old Testament: Anti-Trinitarians and Unitarians alike, try to explain away the plural references to God in the Old Testament: "Let US make man in OUR ... For I would not say that the dogma of that heresy which is said to be among you (The Jews had their own heresies which supplied many things to the Christian heresies) is true, or that the teachers of it can prove that [God] spoke to angels, or that the human frame was the workmanship of angels. But this Offspring, which was truly ... ...
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159: TRINITY proven in the Bible MEGA-SITE
Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA Trinity proven from the bible: 1. Start here: Introduction 2. Trinity and the definition of God 3. Trinity Christology and Jesus Christ 4. Incarnation of Jesus 5. Trinity history 6. Trinity and the Holy Spirit 7. Trinity and the oneness, unity of God 8. Trinity subordination within the Godhead 9. Trinity proof texts Unitarians and Anti-Trinitarians refuted: 1. Satanic and deceptive quoting practices in Watchtower by Jehovah's Witnesses 2. Anti trinity proof texts refuted 3. Trinity is not of pagan origin ...
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160: Trinity: Oneness in unity not in number: Yachid vs. Echad
Trinity: Oneness in unity not in number: Yachid vs. Echad "Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [Echad]!" Deuteronomy 6:4 Click to View Yachid vs. Echad: The most important verse Jews memorized in the Bible was Deut 6:4: "Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [Echad]!" There are a few words in Hebrew that the Holy Spirit could have ... For example, when God said in Genesis 2:24 "the two shall become one [echad] flesh" it is the same word for "one" that was used in Deut 6:4. Click to View This is most troubling for Jews and Anti-Trinitarians since the word yachid, the main Hebrew word for solitary oneness, is never used in reference to God. ... For any Jew to use "Yachid" to refer to the oneness of God is UNBIBLICAL because the Holy Spirit never willed that any scripture in the Bible uses the word YACHID in reference to God. It is claimed by Jews who attack Christian theology that the use of the word ECHAD in Deut 6:4 causes them no problem since the word ... ...
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161: Johannes Greber: "The New Testament", and "Communication with ...
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Click to View Satanic quote: occult spiritist Click to View Both Greber and JW's believe spirits communicate with them! One of the most common references Jehovah's Witnesses once used to support "a god" in John 1:1. There is irrefutable proof that Greber was known to the Watchtower as an occult spiritist in 1953, but they did not stop using Greber until 1976. Then in 1983, the ... We want to draw your attention to the fact that what happened to Greber is common among "Christian/Pentecostal" and occult religions around the world. Click to View Click here to see similarities between Greber's experience and the occult! The boy Greber describes was a medium, and the ... However, for 40 days after his resurrection Jesus appeared to his disciples on different occasions in various fleshly bodies, just as angels had appeared to men of ancient times. ((Insight on the Scriptures Vol. 2 p.786) Trinity is a Human Creation You teach the union of three persons ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Greber.htm
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162: Thayer, Joseph Henry: A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament
The quote is from a handwritten note in a book that was supposed to be Thayer's personal copy in his library. Thayer, Joseph Henry: A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament (Grimm's lexicon translated by Thayer, with Thayer's personal commented added) Click to View How the quote appears in "Should you believe in the Trinity", Watchtower, JW's booklet. "In the same way, since John 1:1 shows that the Word was with God, he could not be God but was "a god," or "divine." Joseph Henry Thayer, a theologian and scholar who worked on the American Standard Version, stated simply: ... Even Jehovah's witnesses believe that THEOS/GOD is applied to Jesus because they openly call Jesus "A GOD" (Jn 1:1), "GOD" (Jn 20:28), "MIGHTY GOD". (Isa 9:6) If you don't believe us, this is exactly how the New World Translation renders the phrases, with various squabbles over whether it should be "A GOD" or "a god". (As if it makes any difference.) So both Trinitarians and Jehovah's Witnesses stand together in ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Thayer.htm
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163: Buzzard, Anthony: Who is Jesus?
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Accurate quoting but, Self-quoting: Self-Quoting: Christadelphian-like No need to misrepresent the opinions of one of their own! But it is deceptive to mention that a misquote is from a Trinitarian but not tell you when they are quoting from a fellow Arian. Buzzard, Anthony: Who is Jesus? What Anti-Trinitarians quote: ". . . we shall find not a hint that Jesus believed himself to be an uncreated being who had existed from eternity. Matthew and Luke trace the origin of Jesus to a special act of creation by God when the Messiah's conception took place in the womb of Mary. It was this miraculous event which marked the beginning-the genesis, or origin of Jesus of Nazareth" (Who is Jesus?: Anthony Buzzard, anti-Trinitarian with Christadelphian-like views) Who is Jesus? Anthony Buzzard "The Old Testament is a strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there or even in any way shadowed forth, is an ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Buzzard.htm
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164: Trinity: "Plural of Majesty", "pluralis majestaticus", "singular ...
It is clear that these plural references to God in the Old Testament we hidden until fully revealed by Christ and his apostles with the proclamation of the deity of Jesus. Jews could look back and see Jesus there in Genesis! B. Understanding the various terms used in this discussion: Plural of Majesty comes from the Latin, "pluralis majestaticus" and is also known as "singular of intensity". "Royal we" "we are not amused" (Queen Victoria) C. History of the "Plural of Majesty" argument: Click to View "We are not amused" Queen Elizabeth 1st would not be amused... about they way Anti-Trinitarians twist every plural reference to God as a mere "Royal We". After all, Elizabeth was a Trinitarian, and would not be one bit amused that her own words were being used to trash the very trinity she believed in! "Let US make man in OUR image" (Gen 1:26) cannot be "Plural of Majesty" because this poetic device did not even exist in scripture until after the Old Testament was completed. The apostolic ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-plural-of-majesty-pluralis-majestaticus-royal-we.htm
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165: Official creed of the Orthodox church
His All Holiness Bartholomew: Archbishop of Constantinople and New Rome, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople Click to View Organization and hierarchy of Autocephalous churches in fellowship with the Patriarch of Constantinople. Orthodox Creed Orthodox Catechism Click Your Choice Go To Start Orthodox Creed Orthodox Catechism GOD THE FATHER: GOD THE FATHER is the fountainhead of the Holy Trinity. The Scriptures reveal the one God is Three Persons -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- eternally sharing the one ... a gift to the Church, to empower the Church for service to God (Acts 1:8), to place God's love in our hearts (Romans 5:5), and to impart spiritual gifts (I Corinthians 12:7-13) and virtues (Galatians 5:22, 23) for Christian life and witness. ... THE BIBLE is the divinely inspired Word of God (II Timothy 3:16), and is a crucial part of God's self-revelation to the human race. The Old Testament tells the history of that revelation from Creation through the Age of the Prophets. The New ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/cr-Orthodox.htm
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166: Douglas, J. D. & Bruce F. F.: New Bible Dictionary
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote & False Dilemma: Trinitarian Fails to supply critical information which misleads the reader & Give false impression that if intimate details of trinity are not in the Bible that Jesus is a creature. Douglas, J. D. & Bruce F. F.: New Bible Dictionary Click to View How it is quoted in "Should you believe in the trinity?": "The word Trinity is not ... The earliest foreshadowing is contained in the narrative of the creation, where Elohim is seen to create by means of Word and Spirit (Gn. i. 3). (New Bible Dictionary, J. D. Douglas & F. F. Bruce, Trinity, p 1298) It is thought that Gn. i. 26 ('And God said, Let us make man in our image and after ... "TRINITY. The word Trinity is not found in the Bible, and, though used by Tertullian in the last decade of the 2nd century, it did not find a place formally in the theology of the Church till the 4th century. It is, however, the distinctive and all comprehensive doctrine of the Christian faith and ... ...
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167: Four positions on the day of Christian worship
Also see: Exposing the Sabbatarian practice of quoting Sunday worshipping churches to prove we should keep the Sabbath (Saturday) holy. (Quotes commonly used by Sabbatarians from various churches are examined for their value.) Click to View Reading the "Frequently Asked Questions" will help you learn MUCH faster! Click to View #1. THE TRUTH: (The position defended at this website) The Truth: The universal record of history, from the Resurrection of Christ, Christians have always worshipped on the first day of the week (Sunday) and never on the Sabbath (7th day). Sunday is not a Christian Sabbath or a day of rest, or a holy day to be kept. This quote is used by ... There is not in any place in the Bible any intimation of such a change." (Alexander Campbell, First Day Observance, pp. 17, 19) The 10 commandment law including the requirement to keep the Sabbath day were abolished at the cross along with all the rest of the law of Moses. God gave a covenant at Mt. Sinai through Moses to the ... ...
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168: Trinity Proof Texts: Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8
Trinity Proof Texts: Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8 Click to View Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, according to Our likeness" I. Plural pronouns used of God proving the trinity: Click to View Click here for detailed study of plural references to God A. Two plural pronouns, (Us, Our) used 6 different ... B. There is no reason to suggest the plural pronoun is the "plural of Majesty", since both Jesus and the Father are described as having the same image. Click to View Click here for a full discussion of "plural of Majesty" III. Angels are not included in "Us" and "Our": A. Anti-Trinitarians claim that when God said, "Let US make man ... For I would not say that the dogma of that heresy which is said to be among you (The Jews had their own heresies which supplied many things to the Christian heresies) is true, or that the teachers of it can prove that [God] spoke to angels, or that the human frame was the workmanship of angels. But this Offspring, which was truly ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-genesis1-26.htm
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169: How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their ...
Click to View Should you believe in the Trinity? A Satanic booklet used by Jehovah's Witnesses to deceive the public into thinking that Trinity is a pagan doctrine. How can the Watchtower continue to get away with deceiving their own people? A. Because Jehovah's Witnesses believe their organization is guided by God in all it does! Read this quote from the Watchtower magazine: "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings published by the Watchtower Society should be the thing that satisfies, that convinces, together with a comparison of these things with the inspired Word of God, the ... In fact Modalism is just as Anti-Trinitarian as Arianism (JW view). But in utter deception, the Watchtower applies Modalistic interpretations to a passage, then refutes it. What the average JW's doesn't understand, is that Trinitarians apply the identical logic to refute the identical thing: Modalism. Jehovah's Witnesses constantly confuse modalism and Trinity doctrine! 2. ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decieve.htm
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170: Girdlestone, Robert Baker: Synonyms of the Old Testament
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority of top scholars and the author adopt the "Plural of Majesty" view of Gen 1:26 Girdlestone, Robert Baker: Synonyms of the Old Testament How anti-Trinitarians quoted it What they didn't want you to see! "Many critics, however, of unimpeachable [Trinitarian] orthodoxy, think it wiser to rest where such divines as Cajetan [a theologian] in the Church of Rome and Calvin among Protestants were content to stand, and to take the plural form as a plural of majesty." (Synonyms of the Old Testament, R. B. Girdlestone) The Name ELOHIM and the Trinity. It is clear that the fact of the word Elohim being plural in ... Perhaps the idea unfolded in the plural form Elohim may be expressed more accurately by the word Godhead or Deity than by the word God; and there is certainly nothing unreasonable in the supposition that the name of the Deity was given to man in this form, so as to prepare him ... ...
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171: Sola Scriptura: The Heretics even quoted scripture!
The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches use this silly argument to suggest that we cannot use the Bible alone to refute heretics, since they also quote scripture. Perhaps there is more truth to this than what first appears! Perhaps only ... This view completely misrepresents history and the facts. Click here to learn why. "Proponents of sola Scriptura often point out that the early Church Fathers appealed to the Scriptures for authority during the doctrinal controversies of the early centuries. What they usually neglect to mention, however, is that the heretics also appealed to the Scriptures. A classic example of this is the Arian controversy which ultimately resulted in the doctrinal definitions affirming the doctrine of the Trinity." (THE ... Yet it is certainly by these same words of God that we must come to understand the things of God." (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book IV, 14) Click to View An amazing text that refutes the Roman Catholic and Orthodox apologists claim ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-heretics-used-scripture.htm
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172: Harris, R. Laird: Theological Workbook of the Old Testament
Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive Quote : Trinitarian Quote only the first of several meaning of Spirit (wind/power) in order to prove the Holy Spirit is nothing but hot air! Harris, R. Laird: Theological Workbook of the Old Testament How Anti-Trinitarians quoted the source What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "His 'spirit' may indicate no more than active power. (Is 40.13)" (Theological Workbook of the Old Testament, Vol 2, page 836-7) Ruah can exhibit a range of meaning. The "breath" of God may be a strong wind (Isa 40:7; 59:19; cf. Num 11:31). His "spirit" may indicate no more than active power or mood Isa 40:13, "Who hath directed the spirit [intention] of the Lord?" or, "who has known the mind [intention] of the Lord," SO Lxx and I Cor 2:16). At most points, however, context approves and the analogy of the NT strongly suggests that the ruah YHWH is the Holy Spirit, "in the fullest Christian sense" (Theological Workbook of the Old ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Harris.htm
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173: Frend, W.H.C.: The Rise of Christianity
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Deceptive quote: Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority who opposed the Nicene creed believed Jesus is a creature and portray Constantine as practically the author of the Nicene Creed. Frend, W.H.C.: The Rise of Christianity How the Anti-Trinitarians Paraphrased the source "the controversial term, defining the son as Consubstantial with [homoousios] the father was introduced by Constantine. The term was ... The possibility is that once again he was prompted by Hosius, and he may have been using it as a "translation" of the traditional view held in the West, that the Trinity was composed of "Three Persons in one substance," without inquiring further into the meaning of ... The "majority who disliked" firmly believed that Jesus was God, they didn't like the Greek terms used to describe Jesus deity, not that they rejected the deity itself! Full Text: Though the exact course of events is uncertain, it seems that the bishops soon found ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Frend.htm
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174: Trinity Proof Texts: 2 Corinthians 13:14 and Philippians 2:1 ...
Trinity Proof Texts Click to View 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all. Philippians 2:1-2 "If therefore there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and ... Three different things are given to Christians by three different persons of the Godhead. This verse is so powerful in proving the Holy Spirit is a person, that anti-Trinitarians are at a loss what to do with it! They are forced into the most uncomfortable position of having to render the meaning of the verse as: " The grace of ... Having said the above, we are honest enough to admit that the Greek word for fellowship can mean a sharing between persons through the medium of a thing. A Christian sharing with a non-Christian his faith. Christians sharing with one another and Christ the body and blood in the Lord's supper. Rich Christians sharing with poor ... ...
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175: Trinity proof texts: Isaiah 45:23-24 = Philippians 2:9-11
Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Isaiah 45:23-24: "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. They will say of Me, 'Only in the Lord are righteousness and strength.' Men ... that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Click to View The irrefutable argument stated: Isaiah 45:23-24 states that every knee shall bow to Jehovah and every tongue shall confess allegiance to Jehovah. Isaiah 45:23-24 is quoted and applied to the Father in Romans 14:9-12 and applied to the Son in Philippians 2:9-11 Therefore Jehovah is applied to both the Father and the Son. Further, Isaiah 45:23-24 is another example of the highest form of joint worship. Comments: Anti-Trinitarians know they are in trouble with this verse. First they deny Phil 2:9-11 is a quote of Isa 45:23-24. Next they will say that Phil 2:9-11 teaches that every knee will bow to the Father, not Jesus. ... ...
...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians9-11.htm
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176: Reglan, Lord: The Hero
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic Quote: secular Our Islamic specialist applied the Muslim's own "hero myth test" to the Islamic religion itself and came up with a score of: 14/22! Moses scored 14/22 too! That is only one less than Christ at 15/22! Reglan never discusses Christianity in his book, but Muslims have drawn conclusions for Reglan. Reglan, Lord: The Hero What Anti-Trinitarians quote: Lord Raglan, who has made a detailed study of the stories of mythical heroes in another of his admirable books. The ... of his mother, but 4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and 5. He is also reputed to be the Son of God. 6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grandfather, to kill him, but 7. He is ... 'Aziz as-Samed, Peshaver University, Muslim, "A Comparative Study of Christianity and Islam", The Source of Christian Creeds, 1976, Pakistan, quoted by Muslims) Muslims then comment: "Out of these twenty-two points, Lord Raglan ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Reglan.htm
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177: Divine Titles, Functions and Character Qualities ascribed to ...
"And if one can overpower him who is alone, two can resist him. A cord of three strands is not quickly torn apart." (Eccl 4:12) Click to View To prove trinity true we need either prove Jesus is uncreated God and/or the Holy Spirit is a person with will, thoughts and emotions like God, angels and man. Click to View Divine TITLES Jesus shares with the Father. Click to View Divine TRAITS Jesus shares with the Father. What God is. Click to View Divine FUNCTIONS Jesus shares with the Father Things God does. Click to View PERSONALITY and character ascribed to the Holy Spirit. Click to View Irrefutable logic: Game Over for Arians! Trinitarians do not need to prove God is "three in one" or ... Deut 7:7-8; Jer 31:3; Jn 3:16; 1 Cor 13:11; Eph 2:4-5; Heb 12:6; 1 Jn 4:8,16 Jn 15:13; Eph 5: 25 Rom 15:30 Grace Ps 84:11; 1 Pet 5:10 Rom 16:20; 1 Thess 5:28 Zech 12:10; Heb 10:29 Who Gives the Christian the Words to Speak? Mt 10:17-20 Lk 21:12-15 Lk 12:11-12 Lied to Hosea 11:12 Jn 8:55 Acts 5:3 Bears ... ...
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178: Trinity proof texts: Revelation 22:3
Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Revelation 21:22; 22:1-5 "I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple." ... "Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. There will no longer be any ... Now here is the twist: When Jehovah's Witnesses accuse Roman Catholics of worshipping the virgin mother, Catholics respond, "We Catholics do not offer "latreuo" to the Mother of Jesus and therefore cannot be accused of Mariolatry. (worship of Mary) Jehovah's Witnesses go to great lengths to show that Catholics indeed to offer divine worship to Mary, in spite of Catholic objections. Yet when Trinitarians made the identical argument to Jehovah's Witnesses, in regard to the worship of Jesus in the ... ...
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179: Yes we can pray to Jesus! Prayer is simply talking to Jesus
Christian liturgical prayer is probably "Our Lord, come" (Maranatha, I Corinthians 16:22; compare Revelation 22:20); it implies that prayer was addressed to the risen, glorified Christ. The Aramaic title Mar or Lord (Greek Kyrios; I Corinthians 12:3) was a term or title regularly used in religious worship. (Encyclopedia Americana, Trinity, p116) Click to View Praying to Jesus is scriptural: There are three ways to establish Bible authority: (Command, example and inference.) We are commanded to pray to Jesus: Jn 14:14; James 1:1-7; 1 Cor 1:2; Eph 5:19; Acts 8:22 We have apostolic examples of praying to Jesus: Rev 22:20, 2 Cor 12:7-9, Acts 7:54-60; Acts 8:24 We have necessary inferences of pray to Jesus: 1 Jn 5:11-15, Acts 1:24; Heb 7:25 Jesus is God, ... Click to View M. The very last verse of the Bible ends with a prayer to Jesus: Rev 22:20 "Even so, come Lord Jesus" is an example of prayer to Jesus. Click to View N. The prayer of Acts 4:24f contained a quote from Psalm 2, a psalm clearly ... ...
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180: Ellen G. White found guilty of plagiarism (copying)
Click to View Ellen G. White Prophet? or Plagiarist! The White Lie! By Walter T. Rea Click to View Order Walter Rea's book: "The White Lie" White copied The Great Controversy from Life Incidents! This ... Thus the ultimate source of Seventh-day Adventist theology is not God inspiring new truths to White, but plagiarizing (copying) J. N. Andrews. We suggest that White step down and let Andrews take her place as the single most influential sources of doctrine in the SDA church! Here is what Walter Rea says in his book, "The White Lie": One of the unwritten stories in Adventist history is the influence that James White had in forming the ideas and sentences that came out under Ellen's name and pen. Although not noted as a literary writer or as a theologian, James did produce four published books. Two of these were Life Incidents in Connection with the Great Advent Movement, as Illustrated by the Three Angels of Revelation XIV, published in 1868, and in 1875 Sketches of the Christian Life and ... ...
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181: History proves the earliest Christians worshipped on the first ...
record: Click here for much more proof There is no historical evidence that Christians kept the Sabbath (Saturday) during this same time!!! There is no historical evidence that Christians disputed over the change of the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday!!! The Historic evidence unanimously shows that the universal practice was to meet on Sunday There is no Historic evidence of the Lord's supper being practice on the Sabbath during this same time. Adventists are lying to the public by misrepresenting history in their frequent Revelation Seminars! We challenge any Sabbatarian to come up with one quote that any ... to what the Bible says in Col 2:16, that the Sabbath law was not nailed to the cross. Only in the 19th century did God, through the Seventh-day Adventist church, restore, by direct revelation, the truth that the day of Christian worship was Saturday The universal practice of Christians has always been Sunday, but some are doing the right thing for the wrong reason. ... ...
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182: Official creed and Baptismal vows of Seventh-day Adventist church
Click to View Sabbath Keepers refuted website Click to View Ellen G. White Website 27 Fundamental beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists Click to View Go to Seventh-day Adventist Official Baptismal Vows Seventh-day Adventists accept the Bible as their only creed and ... They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. Support is found in these Bible passages: 2Peter 1:20,21: 2Timothy 3:16,17: Psalms 119:105: Proverbs 30:5,6: Isaiah 8:20: John 17:17: 1Thessalonians 2:13: Hebrews 4:12 #2 The Trinity There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, ... Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Savior. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments. This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of ... ...
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183: Early Christians always met on the First day (Sunday) and never ...
You will observe that the first mention of Sunday being a day of rest was in 220AD by Origen. This is the beginning of the current false doctrine, that Sunday is the Christian Sabbath, as taught by most churches today. While Sabbatarians will quote 20th century authors who guess about what happened 1900 years earlier, we quote Christians whose writings are 1900 years old and spoke what they saw! The record of history, from the Resurrection of Christ, Christians have always worshipped on the first day of the week (Sunday) and never on the Sabbath (7th day). Sunday is not a Christian Sabbath or a day of rest, or a holy day to be kept. It is the day God requires all Christians to gather together to worship and eat ... See the extensive historical quotes below. Click to View While Sabbatarians will quote 20th century authors who guess about what happened 1900 years earlier, we quote Christians whose writings are 1900 years old! (Date of the writing given first) 90AD DIDACHE: "Christian ... ...
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184: SDA 1919 Bible Conference that discusses E. G. Whites' inspiration
of Bible and History July 30, 1919 Inspiration of the Spirit of Prophecy As Related to The Inspiration of the Bible August 1, 1919 Click to View Click to View Go to Ellen G.White Website Click to View Go to Sabbath Keepers Refuted Website Click to View Order Walter Rea's book: "The White Lie" Click to View Tell us if you feel we have misrepresented E.G. White or SDA's Click to View Participants in the 1919 Bible Conference Arthur G. Daniells, President of the General Conference and Moderator of the round-table discussion W. E. Howell, editor of the *Christian Educator* ... And O, I would feel terribly to have this denomination lose its true, genuine, proper faith in this gift that God gave to this church in these messages that have come to us. I want that we shall stay by this ... I said, "Now here you say that you were shown that the view of the 'daily' that the brethren held was correct. Now," I said, "there are two parts here in this 'daily' that you quote. One is this period of ... ...
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185: Earnest Haenchen: 1984 English translation of Haenchen's commentary ...
Satanic quote: trinitarian The Watchtower commits every offence with Haenchen's work. They selectively quote to make Haenchen appear to say something opposite to what he is actually saying. They ... Haenchen, Earnest: 1984 English translation of Haenchen's commentary on John by Robert W. Funk Click to View Watchtower Magazine Earnest Haenchen is quoted in: Watchtower Magazine, December 15, 1985, p 25. How the Watchtower quoted the source "John 1:1, however, tells of something that was sin existence already in time primeval; astonishingly, it is not 'God'. The hymn thus does not begin with God ... But that is only hinted at in this passage because here the emphasis is on the proximity of the one to the other. ... It was quite possible in Jewish and Christian monotheism to speak of divine beings ... between God and the Logos, or the Word?" (Watchtower, December 15, 1985, p 25) Again this is deceptive, because Jehovah's Witnesses and Trinitarians agree that Jesus and the Father are distinct. ... ...
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186: Psychiatry is founded upon the "medical/chemical model" which ...
Man is not just a pile of chemicals or a binary computer! Click to View Click to View Introduction: Psychiatry is founded upon the "biological/chemical model" which is opposed to the "Moral/spiritual model" revealed in scripture. Psychiatry views man as wholly physical, just a bunch of chemicals and denies the both the existence of God and the spirit of man. Psychiatry openly mocks and ridicules God and Christians, calling Christian theology "foolish, misleading and obsolete". The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental ... You can't help cannibalizing the young boys you raped. Its not your fault. You have an error in your DNA. You have a family history of doing this. All behaviour is a choice. It is a myth that mental illnesses are inherited from the ... K. The chemical view was emboldened by the discovery of the cause of Parkinson's: This quote shows the focus on chemical imbalances led to the discovery of Parkinson's., it shows the general bias towards mental illness caused by broken ... ...
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187: Psychiatry wants to replace Christianity and the church for guidance ...
Click to View Click to View Psychiatry is a vicious enemy of Christianity and the Bible. Psychiatry is Anti-Christian Psychiatry is Atheistic Psychiatry is Humanistic Introduction: Psychiatry has positioned itself to function as a replacement to the church and Christianity. Psychiatry is not content to share the "turf" with Christianity, it seeks to compete with, replace and obsolete the idea of looking to God for guidance and solutions for life's problems. Psychology is actually a religion where Psychiatrists, psychologists ... The psychiatry industry and insurance industry have banded together to literally yank a minister's or pastor's traditional role of "councilor" out of their hands. This is a very recent phenomena and is unprecedented in history! It is ... The pastor is banished from the operating room where the spiritual surgery is performed and placed in the waiting room outside. What is shocking about this quote, is that it comes from a very naive conservative Christian: "The pastor ... ...
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188: Ellen G. White found guilty of plagiarism (copying)
The White Lie! By Walter T. Rea Chapter 6: Sources from Which She Drew (More or Less) The Desire of Ages by Walter Rea Click to View Order Walter Rea's book: "The White Lie" If Patriarchs and Prophets was the cornerstone of Adventist ... interest to the Christian mind, the relation of the son of God to the Father, and his position in Heaven, together with the fall of man and the Mediatorship of Christ between him and his Great or. In this second volume the author continues with renewed interest the subject of the mission of Christ, as manifested by his Miracles and Teachings. The reader will find that this book furnishes invaluable aid in studying the lessons of Christ set forth in the Gospels. The author, as a religious writer and speaker, has ... Walter Rea pastor of the Long Beach California Church asserted on the basis of inconclusive evidence presented m several unpublished papers that the major source for Prophets and Kings was Bible History: Old Testament by Alfred Edersheim ... ...
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189: Official creed of The United Church of Canada
Time for a new church: Click here to find assemblies of Christians who believe in Jesus' resurrection. 2003 church petitions Ottawa to change the definition of marriage to include deviant sex practitioners. The Manual 26th Revised Edition 1987 Introduction: Ever ... In doing so, we build upon the foundation laid by the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone. We affirm our belief in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments as the primary source and ultimate standard of Christian faith and ... We worship Him in the unity of the Godhead and the mystery of the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, three persons of the same substance, equal in power and glory. 2.2 Article II. Of Revelation. We believe that God has revealed Himself in nature, in history, and in the heart of man; that He has been graciously pleased to make clearer revelation of Himself to men of God who spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit; and that in the fullness ... ...
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190: Julius R. Mantey: Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament: ...
Click to View Click to View Decepto-Meter Satanic quote: trinitarian Mantey outright states that the Watchtower deliberately misquotes his work to draw conclusions opposite to what his work actually says. He even wrote a letter to the Watchtower! ... Julius Mantey, author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, calls the NWT "a shocking mistranslation." "Obsolete and incorrect." "It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god.'" "I have never read any New ... at John 1:1." There is no statement in our grammar that was ever meant to imply that "a god" was a permissible translation in John 1:1. A. We had no "rule" to argue in support of the trinity. B. Neither did we state that we did have such intention. ... The following is a discussion that took place between Dr. Martin and Dr. Mantey on the Jehovah's Witnesses' New World Translation. Christian Research Institute founder, Dr. Martin. begins by saying: DR. MARTIN: In John 1:1, the New World Translation ... ...
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191: Matthew Fontaine Maury "Pathfinder Of Sea" Psalms 8
Updated last: Jan 2, 2010 Click to View Click to View Matthew Fontaine Maury: "Pathfinder Of Sea" Psalms 8 by Steve Rudd Click to View The story has now been confirmed to be true! Click to View Oh the ... Richard L. Maury, who had been with his father in all his work here, and urged him to write the history of it, while memory, papers and books could be referred to; this carefully written, accurate ... She chose Psalm 8, the eighth verse of which speaks of "whatsoever walketh through the paths of the sea," he repeated "the paths of the sea, the paths of the sea, if God says the paths of the sea, ... In a nutshell, I find it incredible that the US Naval Institute would not only publish the story if untrue in 1929, but then puts the quote of the entire verse of Ps 8:8 "Paths of the seas" on his ... His inspiration, Holy Writ, Psalm 8:8; Ecclesiastes 1:6." A genius? No. Just a simple Bible-believing Christian who trusted the inerrancy of the Word of God. (Duane Gish, Days of Praise; Daily Bible ... ...
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192: The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD! Also see: Rapture refuted Click to View The Destruction Of JERUSALEM An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY: INCLUDING ... Erskine's Speech, at the Trial of Williams, for publishing Paine's Age of Reason) PREFACE History records few events more generally interesting than the destruction of Jerusalem, and the subversion of ... In order that it might be better adapted for the general reader, critical inquiries and tedious details are equally avoided ; but it has been the care of the writer not to omit any important fact or ... Usefulness is the writer's main object ; and if a perusal of it shall contribute, under the DIVINE BLESSING, to confirm the wavering faith of only one Christian, or to shake the vain confidence of a single Unbeliever, his labour will be abundantly rewarded. G.H. LONDON, 1st. month, 1805. THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM, &C. THE goodness of God stamps all his proceedings. It has please Him ... ...
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193: Sola Scriptura: Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary ...
They believed that in scripture was revealed everything man needed in life and doctrine. In rebuttal to sola Scriptura, Roman Catholic and Orthodox apologists, always point out that many of the "fathers" we quote, also believed in many false ... This view completely misrepresents history and the facts. Click here to learn why. A. Apostolic Fathers believed scripture alone was understandable. Click to View To the horror of Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders, the apostolic fathers expected the heretics to ... "Ignorance of prophetic diction and unskillfulness in interpreting Scripture has led them into a perversion of the point and meaning of the passage." (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 1, 35) Click to View Notice how Hilary expected the ... Why do the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches think that what they write is understandable with "ordinary reason", but what God writes is confusing to all unless you are the Pope? If non-Catholics cannot understand the Bible apart from "God's ... ...
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194: Pentecostal tries to defend manifestions with Scripture
... We appreciate and applaud Shirley A. Elenbaas for making this brave and rare attempt to justify the unbiblical manifestations seen throughout Pentecostalism! She is one of the first Pentecostals who have made an attempt to quote book chapter and verse! Almost all other Pentecostals just say, "God is doing new ... In such limited space we cannot go into great detail of historical accounts of the phenomena of revival, but we can briefly state that strange and unsettling manifestations of God's presence have gone on throughout Christian history. Manifestations of the Holy Spirit of God have occurred in the 1700's in the ministries of Jonathan Edwards, and George Whitefield, in ... Daniel was seeing a vision. Very rarely do people who "shake or jerk" in Pentecostal revivals! The Quakers and Shakers were both occult. For proof of this check: click here. and then here Acts 4:31 "the place where they had gathered together was shaken" the men didn't shake themselves, it was an earthquake type of ... ...
https://www.bible.ca/tongues-defend-manifestions.htm
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195: Official creed of the Shakers: Compendium (1859) Mother Ann Lee
Click to View Click to View Click to View Charismatic Manifestations AND Shakers Manifestations We can't tell the difference... can you? Click here Short summary of Shaker Doctrines: God is Dual. ... doctrines that have placed woman side by side with man, his equal in power, in office, in influence and in judgment. God the Father-Mother. Fatherhood and motherhood exist in the complete human being. ... The life of Christ is in itself, by its very nature, a resurrection out of, above, the natural, carnal life. The Christian resurrection is a resurrection of the soul from death in sin to a life of ... did not refuse the recognition. Click to View S H A K E R S C O M P E N D I U M OF THE ORIGIN, HISTORY, PRINCIPLES, RULES AND REGULATIONS, GOVERNMENT, AND DOCTRINES OF THE UNITED SOCIETY OF BELIEVERS ... They quote Jesus: "Think not that I am come to bring peace on earth [to the earthly procreative relation]; for I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her ... ...
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196: Neither the Pope or Constantine changed the Sabbath from Saturday ...
A. The first Pope did not exist until 606 AD! (over 500 years too late) This is far too late because Christians were meeting on Sundays from the earliest record of history. So Ellen G. White is a false prophet! B. But Adventist's have modified White's argument (corrected the inspired prophet) Listen to what Seventh-day Adventists now teach in their public "Revelation Seminars": "Sundaykeeping was introduced into the Christian Church rather innocently, and its first advocates never dreamed that it would take the place of the seventh-day Sabbath of God. Sundaykeeping had its origin in Rome during the reign of the ... This proves once and for all time that Ellen G. White was a false prophet! Click to View Seventh-day Adventists also publicly teach: The Catholics themselves claim they changed the Sabbath! Quote out of Adventist Revelation seminar book: Catholic Catechism, Peter Geierman, The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50. Q. What is the Third Commandment? A. The Third ... ...
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197: Gifts ceased: Encyclopedia of Pentecostal objections and their ...
Click to View Sometimes Truth makes Love hurt "You are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth" Jn 8:40 Click to View We now consider and refute all Pentecostal Objections to the fact ... in 1 Cor 12. It is amazing that many Pentecostals will say "knowledge is of the Devil, God will do away with all knowledge at the second coming." Pentecostals are notoriously "anti-theological and anti-intellectual" worshipping at the alter of their feelings! There have been groups all down through history who have spoken in tongues, prophesied and performed miraculous healings like the ... Sometimes proponents of current charismatic activity claim that having spiritual gifts is a mark of Christian maturity. Nothing could be further from the truth. The church in Corinth had more in the ... and they also ignore the definitive statement of verses 9 and 10 (a contrast in quantity). One writer goes all the way back to I Corinthians 2:6 for the premise of his maturity argument, completely ... ...
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198: Church ministers were the first Psychiatrists!: The history of ...
The History of Psychiatry: "doctor of the soul" Church ministers were the first Psychiatrists! Click to View Click to View See also: History of Psychiatry homepage Click to View Introduction: The word psychiatrist literally means, "a doctor of the soul" and church ministers were the first psychiatrists who specialized in working with the insane. The record of history is clear. Before 1775 AD, ... Today, the takeover of institutional psychiatry has gone so far, that the insurance companies now tell church ministers never to use the word "counseling" when they perform their God given mandate to ... Modern society defines hospitality as something you extend to friends and family whereas for the Christian, hospitality was always something practiced on behalf of strangers. Jesus instructs us: "If ... Reference to the findings of this Committee and to the prevailing abuses was made in 1866, by a writer who signed himself L.T.F.3 A description was given of a narrative, in MS., dated 1746, in which ... ...
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199: Silence of Scripture and Bible authority
... Alexander Hamilton argued that finding this "sign" in the constitution was not needed and a federal bank was therefore not prohibited because the constitution doesn't say we can't! Click here for more detail on the Constitutional history of the US and how it applies to Bible interpretation. Click to View Ark of Gopher wood, all else prohibited. God told Noah to build the ark out of Gopher wood with the ... of Judah to be a Levite and priest: Judges 17:7,13. Although God had specifically forbidden non Levites (Num 18:22-23) it is powerful to note that the Hebrew writer doesn't argue that God forbade Judah (even though he had), but rather stated that God spoke nothing about Judah being priests. ... 22:16; 1 Pet 3:21. Although God had commanded the Jews in the Old Testament to circumcise, he had never said, "You don't need to be circumcised to become a Christian." The Judaizers in Acts 15:1,5 were teaching that you must not only be believe and be baptized, but also circumcised to be saved! ... ...
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200: Biblical Subordination expressed by early Fathers and apologists ...
Jehovah's Witnesses are correct when they emphasize the subordination of Christ to the Father (in rank or power), but outright misrepresent history, when they say the early church viewed Jesus as a creature. It is not surprising that the Nicene Creed ... Church before the outbreak of the Arian Controversy, who does not in some sense regard the Son as subordinate to the Father." (The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God, R. P. C. Hanson) "Arianism: Before Nicaea, Christian theology was almost universally subordinationist. ... for his attempt to synthesize strict monotheism with a Platonic hierarchical order in the Trinity could have and did have only a subordinationist result. He openly declared that the Son was inferior to the Father and the Holy Spirit to the Son. But he was not an Arian subordinationist for he did not make the Son a creature and an adopted son of God. (The Triune God, Edmund Fortman, p59-61) By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ...
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