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The Apostolic Fathers believed in expedient, optional tradition The Apostolic Fathers believed in expedient, optional tradition "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word ... We love this statement by Tertullian because it proves our point that he used the Bible only to determine doctrine to the exclusion of oral tradition. Now we are ... If these anti-sola Scriptura advocates are correct, that we must follow, as Tertullian did, "tradition" then why do neither the Roman Catholic and Orthodox ... All churches have localized customs and they vary, from congregation to congregation. Remember, there are three kinds of tradition that the apostolic fathers refer to. ... That's because it is optional for local churches and individual Christians to do. Indeed, even the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches do not make the "sign of ... in the baptistery is exactly 77 degrees; holding the person being baptized under water for exactly three second, one for the Father, one for the Son and one for the Holy Spirit. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-3-expedient.htm

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Irrefutable questions that Roman Catholics can't answer ... If the both the Orthodox and Catholic churches follow apostolic oral tradition exactly, how come they teach doctrine so different, that they ... Worse still, both these church fight with protestants that you must use their oral tradition but the Orthodox and Catholic oral traditions ... The Church Fathers believed what Paul said in Eph 3:3-5, that the scripture could be understood by merely reading it. They indicated that the ... did the apostolic fathers expect the heretics to understand the Bible with their own human skills? (Tertullian, The Flesh of Christ, ch 20), (Athanasius, On the Incarnation of the Word, 56), (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 1, 35), (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book 7, ... If Catholic and Orthodox laity can "know the truth" by hearing the catechism read to them, then why not illiterate Christians when they hear ... also to the Orthodox church.) If the personal illumination of the Holy Spirit upon each believer to understand the Bible is not a valid ... ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-questions.htm

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Official creed of Anglican/Episcopal Church The Thirty-Nine Articles of Religion Canada I. Of Faith in the Holy Trinity There is but one living and true God, everlasting, ... is not to be required of any man, that it should be believed as an article of Faith, or be thought requisite or necessary to salvation. In the name of the holy Scripture we do understand those Canonical Books of the Old ... to establish any doctrine; such are these following: The Third Book of Esdras [I Esdras] The Fourth Book of Esdras [II Esdras] The Book of Tobias The Book of Judith The rest of the Book of Esther The Book of Wisdom Jesus the Son of Sirach [or ... Wherefor ther are not to be heard, which feign that the old Fathers did look only for transitory promises. Although the Law given ... Furthermore, we must receive God's promises in such wise, as they be generally set forth to us in holy Scripture: and in our ... The Supper of the Lord is not only a sign of the love that Christians ought to have among themselves one to another; but rather ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-Anglican.htm

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Sabbathgate 1888 by Kerry Wynne ... Adventism rises and falls on the TRUTH of this obscure doctrine. Without it, there is no proof that the Adventist Church is the church of ... The fathers of the Early Church documented an almost immediate abandonment of Sabbath-keeping by Christians, but both early Adventist ... still documents the FACT that Christians were not keeping the Sabbath hundreds of years before there was a pope or a Roman Catholic Church. ... This belies a mindset where it is believed the Sabbath must be true, and all evidence extant is made to conform somehow to the belief. It is reverse logic. The ... the imagination beyond the limits of propriety to think that they would be willing to break one of God's holy laws just to save their necks. ... Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews?" (Homilies on Galatians 2:17 [A.D. 395]). 16. The Apostolic Constitutions [A.D. 400] ... DC. Ellen White's son, Willie, conceded his mother was "shown" that the buildings were built but that, indeed, the buildings were not built. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-sabbathgate-1888ad-Kerry-Wynne.htm

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Trinity Attackers refuted! (Watchtower's: Should You Believe ... ... Here JW's judge the Judge! For example, JW's will reason that eternal conscious torment is false doctrine because "a loving God wouldn't do it to men". ... But Jesus was found worthy and all creation worshipped him for it in Rev 5:11-14. How could any part of an almighty Godhead-Father, Son, or holy ... WHILE Jesus is often called the Son of God in the Bible, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being God the Son. More lies! Read our history section and learn what first century Christians believed! John 1:1 Jesus is ... Here Jesus shows that he and the Father, that is, Almighty God, must be two distinct entities, for how else could there truly be two witnesses? All ... The Watchtower deception is that the last four paragraphs in their booklet disprove trinity! How can it disprove trinity, when all Trinitarians agree ... Here are two snips that are dated 100 and 150 AD, long before 362 AD! Ignatius wrote in 100AD: "There are not then either three Fathers, or three Sons, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-frames-start-page-SYBTT-bible-section.htm

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Creeds: The ancient "rule of faith" (regula fidei) was not a ... The Reform church boasts loudly that their doctrines are not only scriptural, but echo the apostolic fathers. Yet even the Nicene creed of 325, which they view ... heaven and earth, and all things therein, by means of Christ Jesus, the Son of God; who, because of His surpassing love towards His creation, ... Those who, in the absence of written documents, have believed this faith, are barbarians, so far as regards our language; but as regards doctrine, manner, and tenor of life, they are, because of faith, very wise indeed; and they do ... "Now, with regard to this rule of faith-that we may from this point acknowledge what it is which we defend-it is, you must know, that which prescribes ... the right hand of the Father; sent instead of Himself the Power of the Holy Ghost to lead such as believe; will come with glory to take the saints to ... From what and through whom, and when, and to whom, has been handed down that rule, by which men become Christians?" For wherever it shall be manifest ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-creeds-rule-of-faith-regula-fidei.htm

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Bible Prophecy Fulfilled ... A second example is the prophecy in Isa 7:14 of the maiden giving birth to the Emmanuel child which was first fulfilled in Isaiah's own son then also by ... The Midrash Hermeneutic is one specific method of interpreting the Bible and was the one used by used by Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Old Testament prophets ... Midrash is how Christians today determine faith and doctrine in the church which includes obeying the silence of scripture, direct command, approved apostolic example and inference as witnessed in how the Christians in Acts 15 refuted the need for the gentiles to be circumcised to be ... Modern Rabbis must reject the messianic interpretation of Num 24:17 that all their first century brothers both believed and taught if they reject the manner in which Apostle Matthew applied messianic prophecy. 7. Most Christians are completely unaware ... Then Paul goes on to say singles have the liberty to marry if they want. Again, Paul's advice to fathers in "doing well vs. doing better" (1 Cor 7:38) is ... ... https://www.bible.ca/prophecy/welcome.htm

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Sola Scriptura proven from the Bible! Irrefutable proof texts ... Let the Holy Spirit guide you with scripture to your heavenly home!" (Steve Rudd) Click to View Worship with a church that uses the Bible only in your own home ... that both the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches are wrong, because you will see for yourself, that Sola Scriptura is a Bible doctrine. See also: The apostolic fathers taught Sola Scriptura. ... Luke 1:1-4: Click for detailed outline. Luke begins by mentioning uninspired gospels by Christians, then the oral tradition of the apostles and concludes that ... nor the power of God. (Matthew 22:29) "The Son of Man is to go, just as it is written of Him" There were any oral traditions as to who the messiah was. ... Me (John 5:39) "How then will the Scriptures be fulfilled, which say that it must happen this way?" (Matthew 26:54) II. The example of the apostles using Sola ... Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men. (Acts 17:11-12) "Apollos powerfully refuted the Jews in public, ... ... https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-proof-texts.htm

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Part 2: Bible Section: Trinity Watchtower BOOKLET: Should You ... ... Here JW's judge the Judge! For example, JW's will reason that eternal conscious torment is false doctrine because "a loving God wouldn't do it to men". ... But Jesus was found worthy and all creation worshipped him for it in Rev 5:11-14. How could any part of an almighty Godhead-Father, Son, or holy ... WHILE Jesus is often called the Son of God in the Bible, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being God the Son. More lies! Read our history section and learn what first century Christians believed! John 1:1 Jesus is ... Here Jesus shows that he and the Father, that is, Almighty God, must be two distinct entities, for how else could there truly be two witnesses? All ... The Watchtower deception is that the last four paragraphs in their booklet disprove trinity! How can it disprove trinity, when all Trinitarians agree ... Here are two snips that are dated 100 and 150 AD, long before 362 AD! Ignatius wrote in 100AD: "There are not then either three Fathers, or three Sons, ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-JW-SYBTT-Watchtower-BOOKLET-Should-You-Believe-the-Trinity-EXPOSED-REFUTED-bible-section.htm

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Early Christians always met on the First day (Sunday) and never ... ... Glait and Fischer, who had been taught the false doctrine of the Catholic and Lutheran churches, that Sunday is the Sabbath, were ... But the Gentiles, who have believed on Him, and have repented of the sins which they have committed, they shall receive the inheritance ... Sabbath as you do. (Dialogue with Trypho 10:1. In verse 3 the Jew Trypho acknowledges that Christians 'do not keep the Sabbath.') 150AD JUSTIN: We are always together with one another. And for all the things with which we are supplied we bless the Maker of all through his Son Jesus Christ and through his Holy Spirit. ... (Apology, 1, 67:1-3, 7; First Apology, 145 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers , Vol. 1, pg. 186) 155 AD Justin Martyr "[W]e too would observe ... have passed to each of them in the meadow, on the eighth they must go on." (Miscellanies V.xiv.106.2) 200AD BARDESANES: Wherever we ... Now this custom took its rise from apostolic times, as the blessed Irenaeus, the martyr and bishop of Lyons, declares in his treatise ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday.htm

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SUMMARY: PROOF that TRINITY is NOT of PAGAN origin! "The fact that the church fathers never defend trinity against a charge of pagan influence is significant. If the source was ... and Poseidon" were a trinity god, and one of the sources where Christians borrowed trinity from. This is simply nonsense! ... is undisputed, whereas even Anti-Trinitarians openly admit that there are places where trinity doctrine APPEARS to be taught. ... These references actually hurt anti-Trinitarians! For they must admit that there is clear existence of truth in some aspect of Pagan belief! How Jehovah's Witnesses trash the trinity, but shoot themselves in the foot: This quote sounds ... Read this quote from the Watchtower magazine: "The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings ... The worship of Mary and the god-incarnate Jesus originated with the pagan worship of Semiramis and her god-incarnate son. ... Following are the main characters from Gilgamesh, an epic of the Sumerian peoples. It is believed today that this epic was ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-not-pagan-reasons.htm

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The Decepto-Meter goes crazy when you bring it near the Watchtower ... is where anti-Trinitarians lead the reader to falsely conclude that if Jesus is subordinate to the Father, that Jesus must be a creature. ... JW's project the false impression that ancient Babylonians would not label the Watchtower version of God as a Triad. (Father-true God, Son... Source views Logos Christology as influence by Greek paganism and an intermediate bridge between apostolic teaching and Arianism. & ... They project the false impression that Fortman either rejects trinity, or that he is willing to accept trinity without any Bible support for the doctrine. Click to View Fortman, Edmund The Triune God Deceptive quote Trinitarian Gives false impression that the majority who opposed the Nicene creed believed ... Gives false impression that author has no Biblical basis for believing in the divinity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit ... Although Henderson correctly says that the "Nicene concept of Trinity" is not in the Bible, he would say that early Christians and the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decepto-meter.htm

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Official creed of the Lutheran church; 95 Theses or 95 Articles ... and concerning the Three Persons, is true and to be believed without any doubting; that is to say, there is one Divine ... ARTICLE III: OF THE SON OF GOD. Also they teach that the Word, that is, the Son of God, did assume the human nature in the ... taught by the Fathers. For Ambrose says: It is ordained of God that he who believes in Christ is saved, freely receiving remission of sins, without works, by faith alone. ARTICLE VII: OF THE CHURCH. Also they teach that one holy Church is to ... And to the true unity of the Church it is enough to agree concerning the doctrine of the Gospel and the administration of the ... Wherefore we must so use the Sacraments that faith be added to believe the promises which are offered and set forth through ... Of Civil Affairs they teach that lawful civil ordinances are good works of God, and that it is right for Christians to bear ... Apostolic pardons are to be preached with caution, lest the people may falsely think them preferable to other good works of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-lutheran.htm

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Seven Myths Of Denominationalism! ... We will divide our presentation into three categories: (1) Jesus' teachings in the gospels, (2) inspired apostolic examples throughout the book of Acts, ... the Jews and the Samaritans (vs. 20): "Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. ... reader would expect Paul to have a problem with these brethren trying to bind something which God had loosed at the cost of the death of His dear son. ... Paul's argumentation along this line continues through Chapter 11. We urge you to read it in its entirety. The following typifies the doctrine which the Holy Spirit was inspiring the apostle Paul to write to the Christians at Rome ... For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Paul's assertion here is that a zeal for God is not enough -- it must ... and chapter 2 were dedicated to validating Paul's authority as an apostle. (This was essential if the letter were to be believed as being authoritative). ... ... https://www.bible.ca/r-7-myths-of-denominationalism.htm

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Rapture Doctrine invented by John Darby in 1830 AD ... Baptists believe they are illuminated with guidance from the Holy Spirit through the Calvinist doctrine of Irresistible grace. 9. Christians reject all these false notions of God illuminating man and rely upon the pages of the Bible alone as a sole source of conduct and doctrine. . Find a church that exposes the Rapture as a ... Abraham and must return to fulfill this promise. Truth: God made three promises to Abraham and all three were fulfilled at the time of Joshua - Solomon. "And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no ... and again on May 21, 2011. Camping believed he had learned special insights that no one else on earth had understood from the Bible. ... When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that ... of Premillennialism that sought to overthrow what, since the Apostolic Age, have been considered by all premillennialist as ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm

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What Early Christians believed about Mt 24 & destruction of Jerusalem ... What did early Christians believe about...? (Before 400 AD) Uninspired records of how early Christians worshipped and what doctrine they believed! Click to View Matthew 24 Fulfilled in 70AD Destruction of Jerusalem Click to View ... But when the raging wrath of the Most High comes upon the Hebrews it will also take faith away from them, because they did harm to the son of the ... under the prefects.(17) Thus was he removed from the world, and went into the holy place, having proved himself a striking example of patience." (Chap. ... But since our thoughts are not fixed on the present, we are not concerned when men cut us off; since also death is a debt which must at all events be ... They are these: "Sion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation. The house of our sanctuary has become a curse, and the glory which our fathers blessed is ... if they were authorized by the apostolic narrations, not understanding correctly those matters which they propounded mystically in their representations. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-Mt-24-destruction-jerusalem-70AD.htm

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One verse refution of Transubstantiation ... The Bible pattern for the Lord's Supper is that the bread and juice are not combined, but are two separate steps of "Holy communion". We ... B. Catholics and Orthodox misrepresent history: 1. Transubstantiation is completely unbiblical, being a doctrine that grew out of the Gnostic ... correctly identify the Lord's Supper as a battle ground between Christians and Gnostics. "In the early Church, the only people who denied ... Only in the fourth century, were Gnostics isolated in their symbolic view. But amazingly, they were the ones who maintained the Apostolic ... for which they give thanks is the body of their Lord and the cup his blood, if they do not say he is the Son of the Creator of the world? ... ... transubstantiation, then they are forced to admit that the Gnostics at the time of Irenaeus in 180 AD, also believed in transubstantiation. ... Just as you (Irenaeus) have argued that the bread and juice must be transubstantiated into something that is undetectable to our senses, we ... ... https://www.bible.ca/ntx-communion-transubstantiation.htm

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Scriptures were more important than tradition to Apostolic Fathers to Apostolic Fathers Introduction: Roman Catholic and Orthodox leaders love to follow their man-made rules and doctrine, especially when it directly contradicts the New Testament. If the Bible says baptize by immersion (Acts 8:36), they sprinkle, If the Bible says Bishops MUST be married ... (Irenaeus, book 3, Chapter IV.-The Truth is to Be Found Nowhere Else But in the Catholic Church, the Sole Depository of Apostolical Doctrine. ... James Bernstein, Orthodox preacher, speaking about the time when he believed the Bible was above man-made church tradition says, "And I had ... beliefs of many modern Christians, the Church which produced the Bible is not dead. The Orthodox Church today has direct and clear historical continuity with the Church of the Apostles, and it preserves intact both the Scriptures and the Holy Tradition which enables us ... The Bible says deviant sex is morally acceptable." "The Bible says Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of God. ... The Bible says Jesus Christ is a ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scriptures-tradition-apostolic-fathers.htm

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What Early Christians believed about USING INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC What did early Christians believe about using instrumental music in worship? (Before 300 AD) Uninspired records of how early Christians worshipped and what doctrine they believed! Using instrumental music in worship??? See also: instrumental music banned in ... of gods and intent on their idol worshipping. Such musical instruments must be excluded from our wingless feasts, for they arc more suited for ... for war employ." (Clement of Alexandria, 190AD The instructor, Fathers of the church, p. 130) CLEMENT "Moreover, King David the harpist, whom ... He Himself is an all-harmonious instrument of God, melodious and holy, the wisdom that is above this world, the heavenly Word." ... "He who ... GIRADEAU "The church, although lapsing more and more into deflection from the truth and into a corrupting of apostolic practice, had not ... It destroys the difference between the clean and the unclean, the holy and unholy, counts the blood of the Son of God unclean, and tramples under ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-music.htm

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The ministry of Dr. Hugh Ross exposed Christians have to be informed about the exact position which Dr. Ross takes. This is the only reason why you should read Dr. Davidheiser's ... 5 and 7:6. The record is presented as a straightforward father-to- son genealogy with no gaps, but even if there were gaps the calculation ... on Christian doctrine (3rd century); Basil (4th century); Augustine (5th century); and, later, Aquinas (13th century), to name a few. ... After referring to Josephus, Dr. Ross cites examples of heroic "early church fathers" who believed in long periods of time for the days of creation. ... He contended that the literal sense is not that for which the Holy Spirit gave the Scriptures to Christians and said, "The Scriptures are of ... Now among 'all things' our world must be embraced. It too, therefore, was made by His Word, as Scripture tells us in the book of Genesis ... Charles Scribner's Sons. 1929. p. 11. 9 Gardner, Eldon J. History of Life Science. Burgess. 1960. p. 93. 10 St. Irenaeus. Proof of Apostolic ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tracks/b-hugh-ross.htm

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REFUTED: Full-Preterist, "Realized Eschatology", "AD 70 doctrine ... Table of Contents Introduction. 1 1. Four times the Son of man comes with clouds and power in His Kingdom. 1 2. Midrashic ... this falsifies the Full-Preterist "second coming" doctrine of the rapture on Pentecost, 22nd June AD 66 after which, ... JW's believe in a two-class hope-system for Christians where the first 144,000 get to go to heaven, but the rest (144,001 +) ... Baptizer back to Abel-"Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the holy prophets." (JW publication: Studies In the Scriptures, IV, p625, 1897 AD) ii. "That the deliverance of the saints [144,000] must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the ... d. "But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, ... Paul and Barnabas used "approved apostolic example" by describing how they have saved thousands of Gentiles without ... "For I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea; ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/revelation/Refuted-Full-Preterism-Realized-eschatology-debunked-exposed-second-coming-Parousia-rapture-destruction-Jerusalem-70AD-Doctrine-Revelation-Commentary.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 5:18 He defended himself against this false charge." (Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower, "Should You Believe in the Trinity?") Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #1 refuted ... 22 "And you shall not bring a load out of your houses on the sabbath day nor do any work, but keep the sabbath day holy, as I commanded your forefathers. ... can lie and deceive without sin any time they need to hide their apostate doctrine from true Christians, but Jesus could not break the sabbath without sin, under any circumstances. ... Here are the quotes right out of the Watchtower magazine: "As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise caution when dealing with God's ... Yet we have Jesus as proof that such exceptions existed in the mind of God when He argued that lifting an injured son who had fallen into a pit and carrying him ... Moses has given you circumcision (not because it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and on the Sabbath you circumcise a man. 23 "If a man receives circumcision ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john5-18.htm

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mormon church: Critical Essay written in 1832 AD ... two since came back from the dead and had the gift of tongues, who was believed in by several ministers of the Scotch Church. ... The Nephites, like their father, for many generations were good christians, believers in the doctrines of the Calvinists and ... In his time 'they kept the law of Moses and the sabbath day holy to the Lord.' During the priesthood and reign of Enos, there ... his brother Chemish; he, to his son Abinadom; he to his son Amaleki; and he having no son, gave them to the just and pious King Benjamin. King Benjamin had three sons, Mosiah, Helorum, and Helaman, whom he educated in all the learning of his fathers. ... He must have heard of the Arian controversy by some angel!! Moroni finishes what Mormon his father, left undone, and ... He decides all the great controversies - infant baptism, ordination, the trinity, regeneration, repentance, justification, ... of Cyrus,' p.119. 'The only true doctrine of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost which is one God without end. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/mor-1831-review-campbell.htm

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Seals, Bulla, Documents, Pottery & Antitypical New Testament ... ... In contrast, Jesus gave definitive, black and white directives on doctrine and moral issues. Scribes taught like modern lawyers but ... had shown mercy, analogous to the mouth-cleansing rite which must lie behind Is 6:6f." (Hermeneia, Ezekiel 9:2, 1979 AD) Scribes in ... Scribes, high priests and kings were familial and dynastic positions passed from father to son. For example, during the time of Jeremiah ... things new and old."" (Matthew 13:52) Something old = expounding and teaching Christians all the things they understood and believed as Jews before their conversion to Jesus. ... to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven-things into which angels long to look." (1 ... and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. ... Jesus gave the Holy Spirit (ie., the miraculous gifts of the apostolic age) to the disciples as a substitute in His absence. The gifts ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/bulla/bible-archeology-seals-clay-bulla-scribes-inkwells-quills-papyrus-documents-scriptorium-antitype-assurance-salvation-Christ.htm

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The $200 Text: A Written Debate Concerning the Sabbath ... they are magnifying His office while they are destroying His doctrine! Yea, they honor Him just as Judas did when he said, "Hail, Master," and kissed Him. And He may as justly say to every one of them, "Betrayest thou the Son of Man with a kiss?" ... I must defend it for the sake of the truth. He said: It seems to me that if this party had honestly felt that he had a right to the reward money -- then he would have ATTENDED THE MEETING WHEN IT WAS TO BE GIVEN AWAY. What I "honestly" believed ... Version -- stating that Sunday -- the first day of the week should be observed by Christians as a day of rest and worship. ... Is he honest in promoting an organization unknown to the pages of God's Word, that exists without one mention in the Holy ... not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out ... shadows of things to come, is proven by the fact that the Apostolic council warned us against Blood and things strangled, and ... ... https://www.bible.ca/sabbath-debate-frost-smith.htm

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Sola Scriptura debate charts by Pat Donahue Sola Scriptura debate charts by Pat Donahue Sola Scriptura: Sola Scriptura debates between Christians vs. Orthodox/Catholics Click to View ... Affirmative 2. I Corinthians 13:8-10, Part Versus Whole 3. I Corinthians 13:8-10, The Perfect (Complete) Must be of the Same Nature as its ... Fathers Always Right?, Peter Is The Rock? 24. Church Fathers Always Right?, Lord's Supper 19. Pat Is Fallible 20. The Bible Is Understandable 27. Catholics Assembled Canon? 28. Martin Luther Removed The Apocrypha? 29. Printing Press Not Invented Until 1440? 30. Unity? 31. Apostolic ... in Mt 27:9,7 - Judas and the potter's field) * 12:10 - "... his only SON ... whom they have PIERCED" (applied to Jesus in Jn 19:37 - "And ... The Church/Pope Tells Us ? Evidently my opponent doesn't believe the Bible teaches Catholic doctrine or he wouldn't need to resort to sources ... II Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which ... ... https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-debates-donahue.htm

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Historical overview of Psychiatry: 1550 BC - 2010 AD a secular takeover by chemical psychiatrists forced Christians out of their God given role as councilors of people with ... obey, are subject to those principall parts, the Braine must needs be primarily misaffected, as the seate of Reason, and then the Heart, as the seate of Affection". Burton believed that the devil began deceiving the mind of those who were ... Burton shows that the etiology of mental illness is upbringing. If parents are too harsh "Fathers, do not exasperate your children, so that they will not lose heart" Col 3:21 or mothers who are too permissive "He who withholds his rod hates his son, ... This is the comfort of a holy man, that though he be troubled with himself, yet by reason of the spirit in him which is his ... The Bible does teach demon possession during the apostolic age, but oddly, he Farmer did not believe the devil or demons even ... Farmer said, "the New Testament doth not countenance the doctrine of real possessions." Demon possession is real in the New ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-history-overview.htm

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Discussion: Eternal torment or annihilation? against God, because I believed that Bible meant what it said when it indicated that the fate of the wicked means unending punishing. ... In 2000 I finally came across a copy of his book and purchased it. As much I wanted Fudge to be right (most of my kin are not Christians other ... The depiction of the first resurrection and the second death were not meant for expositions of the doctrine of the resurrection from the dead ... The everlasting punishment of the unforgiven does not take place in heaven! It does not take place in the presence of the holy angels or the ... We'll pick this up later the Annihilationist argues that death is death, so the second death must be like the first so lets consider the first ... 28) the constant assertion that the dead were gathered to their fathers, even when buried extreme distances away Then there are the ... and all his daughters rose up to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, For I will go down to Sheol to my son mourning. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/su-annihilation-refuted-discussion.htm

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The Dugger-Porter Debate on Sunday as the Lord's Day ... Abraham was one of the fathers with whom God did not make that covenant; neither was he alive the day Moses spoke. But suppose Abraham did ... Why did Jesus observe the law of circumcision, the Sabbath and the Passover? Because "God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under ... our own" but "belongs to God" unless he will give a text of Scripture that says the Sabbath is God's holy day in this age of the world. ... Just grant that the days of the week are the same as they were anciently, would that prove the Sabbath binding on Christians? What my opponent must do is to find ... new laws, but it does say that they continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine (Acts 2:42). No new laws or new regulations were given. ... on the Sabbath day, and he was not preaching entirely to Jews either, for Acts 17:4 says a great company of Greeks or Gentiles believed. ... No argument in favor of first day observance by the apostolic church has been slighted, or intentionally overlooked. There are no ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-debate-porter-dugger.htm

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Saul Hunts David. Timeline, maps, chronology, sermons of Judges ... ... Past excavations have uncovered a large square structure with corner towers that are believed to be Saul's palace. Gibeah is ... was a time of persecution for David and laid the foundation of many antitypes echoed by Christ and Christians in general. ... longer serve as high priest. "The king appointed Benaiah the son of Jehoiada over the army in his place, and the king ... "How would you best describe Theocratic War Doctrine?" Response of "yes" from 130 X-Jehovah's Witnesses: Member Pioneer Ministerial Servant; Elder Circuit Overseer A. The court's definition of truth "One must tell the whole truth and nothing but the ... While David's eating of the sacred Shew Bread placed on a table inside the Holy Place of the tabernacle goes without even a ... black heart is again revealed in that he again starts to hunt David down in spite of his vows to YHWH and numerous apologies. ... Yet You are holy, O You who are enthroned upon the praises of Israel. In You our fathers trusted; They trusted and You ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-maps-timeline-chronology-1samuel-21-31-saul-david-on-the-run-1012-1004bc.htm

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Masoretic Text (MT) born in 160 AD at Zippori ... Varus, the legate of Syria, destroyed the city following the attack on the palace by Judas, son of Ezekias, after Herod's death in 4 B.C.E. ... and learn Hebrew: "Aquila of Sinope (~130 AD) Gentile, converted then excommunicated as Christian, converted to Judaism: "Aquila's name must have been common in antiquity since it is attested in the apostolic age. ... Scriptures. This was a grave error and has caused great confusion among Christians. 2. In 400 AD Augustine: believed both 5554 BC and 4114 BC as the age of the earth were inspired. a. ... But in the end, none of the changes made by the Jews changed any critical text or changed any doctrine, so they failed. d. Many Jews today are ... The gospel of Messiah Jesus was spreading like wildfire across the Roman world, the Temple had been razed to the ground, and the holy city of God had ... Numerous church fathers testify to the lengths to which orthodox Judaism went to discredit Jesus' Messianic office, a phenomenon also recorded ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/Masoretic-Text-MT-Leningrad-Codex-Bible-manuscripts-Old-Testament-Torah-Tanakh-Hebrew-Rabbi-Yose-ben-Halafta-Zippori-160AD.htm

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Nimrod and the Archaeology of the Tower of Babel by Steven Rudd ... ... Scholars and historians who suggested Nimrod was Sargon believed Nimrod's Babel of Gen 10 was the same identical Babel where Nimrod ... Domino #8: Rejecting the Trinity transforms the Holy Spirit from a person into a thing. Not only is the Holy Spirit no longer God, ... Domino #9: Rejecting the spiritual nature of man, Jesus and the Holy Spirit causes some Unitarians to reject the Bible doctrine of ... He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:22-23) b. "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in ... For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." For when they maintain this, ... Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking ... While Christians clearly are NOT worshipping Inana or Ishtar, it is shocking that Christians chose to name their annual celebration ... ... https://www.bible.ca/nimrod/welcome.htm

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The Myth Of Psychotherapy, Thomas Szasz, 1979 AD ... David Bakan offers the following evidence to support his contention regarding Freud's positive self-identification as a Jew: Freud believed that anti-Semitism ... contemporaries, observes Schorske, "the generational revolt against the fathers took the specific historical form of rejection of their fathers' liberal creed. ... Moses took revenge against the Egyptians; Freud, against the Christians. Moses founded Judaism; Freud, psychoanalysis. Moses and Monotheism, published in 1939, ... I heard the visitor saying to my father, "And how is your son?" "Ah, that's a sad business," my father replied. "The doctors no longer know what is wrong with ... This time it took about fifteen minutes before the second attack came. That, too, passed like the first. "And now you must really get to work!" I stuck it out, ... The matter concerned Jung's understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity and the ritual of Holy Communion. As the time for his confirmation approached-his father was personally preparing him for it- ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/the-myth-of-psychotherapy-thomas-szasz-1979ad.htm

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Acapella Responsive Singing, No Instruments in first century ... ... The difference in the way the Psalms were used changed the meaning of psallo which was employed to describe this use. Christians ... And all the people shall answer and say, 'Amen.'" (Deuteronomy 27:12-15) f. It is interesting that each Levite priest must have ... than in shouting forth God's praises at the incarnation of his Son." (Commentary on Luke, J. J. Owen, Luke 2:13, 1859 AD) 3. ... Congregation responsively replies "Blessed are you, O Lord God of our fathers, and praiseworthy and to be exalted into the ages. And blessed is your glorious name, holy and praiseworthy, and to be exalted exceedingly into ... so too the Angelic Liturgy, clearly the product of Pharisee doctrine, refuted the Sadducees view that angels did not exist with a ... Werner adds, "The primitive Christian community held the same view, as we know from apostolic and post-apostolic literature: ... of your forefathers living in Jerusalem 2000 years ago when they believed in Jesus the Nazarene (the branch) as their messiah. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Acapella-responsive-singing-non-instrumental-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-worship-prototype-ancient-Synagogue-ritual-liturgy-worship.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Genesis 19:24 ... This is what Jesus meant when He said, "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." (John 8:56) B. What the apostolic Fathers said about Genesis 19:24: 150 AD Justin Martyr: In this text, ... But I find in Scripture the name Lord also applied to them Both: "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit Thou on my right hand." And Isaiah says this: "Lord, who hath believed our report, and to whom is the arm of ... [In which he defends, in all essential points, the doctrine of the holy trinity.] Chapter XIII.-The Force of Sundry Passages of Scripture Illustrated in Relation to the Plurality of Persons and Unity of Substance. ... our image: and so God made man, after the image of God made He him."" (The Epistle of Ignatius to the Antiochians, Chapter II.-The True Doctrine Respecting God and Christ.) 253 AD Cyprian "In the Gospel according to John: "The Father judgeth nothing, but hath given all judgment unto the Son, that all may honour the Son as they honour the Father. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-genesis19-24.htm

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What Early Christians believed about PROPHETS OUTSIDE THE APOSTOLIC ... What did early Christians believe about...? (Before 300 AD) Uninspired records of how early Christians worshipped and what doctrine they believed! Click to View Prophets outside the Apostolic Age Click to View What Do The Early Church Fathers Say Regarding Prophets In Their Day? 160AD Clement of Alexandria (On the end of Apostolic revelation) "Mystagogues of the souls of the impious. " "They do not make a right but a ... This process is attended with very great detriment to the truth, when they pretend that it is either helped by falsehood, or else that falsehood derives support from it. The following circumstance must needs have set ourselves and the philosophers by the ears, especially in this ... He affirms, however, that Christ descended from the power above; that is, from the good (Deity), and that he is the son of that good (Deity). And (he asserts that Jesus) was not born of a virgin, and that when he did appear he was not devoid of flesh. (He maintains,) however, that ... ... https://www.bible.ca/H-prophets.htm

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Prophecy Blunders! 100 Years of Failed Watchtower prophecies Yet what you will observe is an ever changing system of doctrine. Take careful note at how they make bold claims of events to ... In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned ... against Satan's organization. For many years it was believed by them, and so stated in The Watchtower, that "the time ... Some of the consecrated ones thought they must be taken home to heaven at a time certain in order to help God run the universe. (The New World; 1942; 2,000,000 ed.; p. 308) 1942 "The faithful acts of the men who were known as fathers in Israel are ... the appearing of the 'desolating abomination in the holy place' is an unerring proof that the unknown day and hour of ... It will end when God destroys this present wicked system of things. How soon will that be? God's own Son, Jesus Christ, ... Although having rejected such false teachings as the Trinity and immortal soul, they were still tainted by Babylonish ... ... https://www.bible.ca/Jw-Prophecy.htm

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Official creed of the Shakers: Compendium (1859) Mother Ann Lee ... It is no longer believed that Ann Lee was a "witch" , because she was known to possess supernatural powers; or that the Shakers ... - rise to the same plane. 6. This was the condition and expectation of the Apostolic Church, whose members were all Hebrews. ... The Gentile Christians were fed with "milk, and not with meat, because they were not able to bear it." They were written to "as ... to man, from sphere to sphere. 46. Hence it is said, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners, spake to the fathers, by the prophets [in the spirit-world], hath, in these last days, spoken unto us by his Son." ... Therefore the judgment, as well as the mercy and goodness, of God, must necessarily be administered to souls through agencies ... And, in ministering the Holy Spirit to the apostles, after his crucifixion, he said: "Whosoever sins ye remit, they are remitted ... abused this institution, in common with every Christian doctrine, does not invalidate the principle itself, nor render it ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-shakers.htm

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Topical Selection of Early Christian's Beliefs ONLY THE BIBLE, (sola scriptura) is authoritative and inspired. The Bible is our sole guide. However, these quotes do contain an interesting snapshot of the doctrine early Christians believed after the apostolic age. All quotes are sorted by date. But one final warning. Like the Muslim Hadith, there are forgeries within what Christians commonly call the, "Early Church Fathers". Some of the forgeries are obvious, but for others, we really cannot be sure what is forgery and what is genuine. We host the entire ... Fulfillment of the 70 Weeks of Daniel 9 Early Christians on the complete fulfillment of Mt 24 and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD Early Christians on Revelation prophecies already fulfilled Click to View Nature of God: Early Christians on the TRINITY Early Christians on DEITY OF CHRIST Early Christians on ETERNAL PRE-EXISTENCE OF CHRIST Early Christians on PERSON & PERSONALITY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT Click to View Worship: Early Christians on INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN ... ... https://www.bible.ca/indexHistory.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: 2 Corinthians 13:14 and Philippians 2:1 ... Trinity Proof Texts Click to View 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all. Philippians 2:1-2 "If therefore ... spirit, intent on one purpose. 1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. What the verse is saying: Three different things are given to Christians by three different persons of the Godhead. This verse is so powerful in proving the Holy Spirit is a person, that anti-Trinitarians are at a loss what to do with it! ... All we need to do is prove that the Holy Spirit is a person from this verse. Since all anti-Trinitarians deny that the Holy Spirit is a person, trinity doctrine is proven by default. There is no ... The Greek in 1 Cor 1:9 is identical to that of 2 Cor 13:14. So anti-Trinitarians must admit that our interpretation, although they think it wrong, is possible and a natural interpretation based upon ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-2corinthians13-14.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Revelation 22:3 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Revelation 21:22; 22:1-5 "I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple." ... "Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne ... This is a fatal blow to Jehovah's Witnesses who would logically expect there to be two thrones. They just cannot understand how the father and son are sitting on ONE throne at the same time. Christians are called, "bond-servants" (common word for slave) who serve the Father and the Son ... of the spirits of the prophets, sent His angel to show to His bond-servants the things which must soon take place. " (Revelation 22:6) This is doubly emphasized by Rev 22:16, where Jesus says it was He who sent his angel to Christians. ... Yet in Rev 20:6 the singular "Him" is applied to the two of them, as though they are one. Father Alone Son Alone Father and Son with collective use of singular Temple 2 Cor 6:16 (also of the Holy Spirit: 1 Cor 6:19) Temple is a metaphor ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-revelation22-3.htm

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Trinity Proof Texts: Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8 ... thereby fulfilling Ps 2:7. The self contradictory doctrine of the Watchtower has Jesus the creature, functioning as our co-creator (Jn 1:3; Col 1:16). But this violates Rom 1:25: "worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator". This passage teaches that if Jesus is the creator, as the Bible says he is, then he cannot be a creature. Jesus cannot be creator and creature at the same time! V. The apostolic Fathers unanimously taught that the "Us" in Gen 1:26, refers to the trinity: Click to View More trinity quotes from the apostolic Fathers 74 AD Epistle of Barnabas: "For the Scripture says concerning us, while He speaks to the Son, "Let Us make man after Our image, and after Our ... phrase, "Let us make; "and, "in our image; "and, "become as one of us." (Tertullian, Against Praxeas, Chapter XII. Other Quotations from Holy Scripture Adduced in Proof of the Plurality of Persons in the Godhead.) 200 AD Tertullian: Tertullian rejects the idea that God was speaking ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-genesis1-26.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Philippians 2:5-8 ... J. B. Lightfoot, parapharase, Semi Kenotic Though He pre-existed in the form of God, yet He did not look upon equality with God as a prize which must not slip from His grasp, but He emptied ... cannot mean that he literally divested himself of his divine nature and perfections, for that was impossible. He could not cease to be omnipotent, and omnipresent and most holy and true and good. ... At His incarnation He remained "in the form of God" ... Kenotic theory annuls the doctrine of the trinity. J.J Muller, New International Commentary "Being in the form of God as he was, Christ did not consider a ... Thus Christ emptied himself of himself. Beacon Bible commentary, Anti Kenotic The pre-existent son regarded equality with God not as excusing him from the task of (redemptive) suffering and death, ... AcGoding to Paul, it consisted in his relinquishment of heavenly glory and majesty. · Fathers, Augustine, Catholic and most reformed taught that Jesus exchanged the form of God for the form of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians2-6.htm

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Watchtower Deceptions: Confusing Modalism as if it were trinity ... ... The WT does this again and again and again and again in all their publications. This is truly sad for those who have been duped into believing that born again Christians believe the Father and the Son are the same Person. ... The article begins with the WT again trying to define the doctrine of the Trinity: Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God (Reasoning from the Scriptures, p.405). The WT again here presents a basically true definition of the doctrine. But the next sentence will again demonstrate ... John 19:7 We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God. The Modalistic Watchtower Trinity: "...Which God gave unto Him.--"The declaration that 'the Son can do nothing of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-deceptions-modalism.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 350 AD: Hilary of Poitiers Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for Catholics and Orthodox. 350 ... credence for their lies. Yet it is certainly by these same words of God that we must come to understand the things of God." (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book IV, 14) Click to View An amazing text that refutes the Roman Catholic and ... any man teaches contrary to the wholesome and right faith of the Scriptures, saying that there is or was time, or space, or age before the Son was begotten, let him be anathema. ... While we feel it would have been better in the "Arian wars" for even the Nicene Fathers to simply maintain the personality of the Holy Spirit and the uncreated divinity of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-hilary.htm

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Trinity proof texts: John 1:1 ... recognized scholars of the Greek language may of whom are not even Christians, and cannot fairly be said to be biased in favor of the orthodox contention." ... the following passages: John 20:28; Tit 2:13; 2 Pe 1:1; 1 John 5:20. So both the Father and Son are called "God" both with and without the definite article. ... Every Greek scholar will tell you that the lack of a definite article does not mean that the noun must be indefinite. Clearly the meaning of these instances ... Now God's plan was materialized in all its fulness." [cf. The Trinity, J. H. Broughton, p 247, Christadelphian doctrine book] In the beginning, God had a plan to eventually create EVE, and EVE, as God ... To say, "and the Word was deity" violates the Greek. It is like saying, "and the Word was Holy/begotten" These are adjectives not nouns. The use of deity in ... Luke, in narrating Acts 28:6 deliberately leads the reader to understand that the natives believed Paul to be one of many polytheistic gods. John, in ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-john1-1.htm

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The Apostolic Fathers viewed oral tradition as a duplicate of ... However, they believed 100% of apostolic oral tradition (viva voce or living voice) was eventually recorded in scripture. They never indicated that oral tradition was any different or distinct from scripture. Therefore, Christians who advocate Sola Scriptura take the identical view of oral tradition of the apostles, as the Church Fathers did. This is most troubling to Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders of an oral tradition that is distinct from scripture. The Apostolic Fathers in ... journey in Acts 18:1. This was before any books of the Bible were written so it must refer exclusively to oral tradition. "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to ... What was taught within these four generations may have included oral revelation, but this oral doctrine was also taught in scripture. For Roman Catholic and Orthodox ... Yet for some time these specific words were likely remembered by many who heard them. There are literally thousands of inspired sermons that the Holy Spirit. "They were ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-2-oral.htm

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Abbott, Lyman: Dictionary of Religious Knowledge Example of selective quoting (Blue is Jw quote from booklet, Should you believe the Trinity?) "It is certain, however, that from the apostolic times they paid worship to Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, addressed to them their prayers, and included them in their doxologies." ... "Precisely what the doctrine is, or precisely how it is to be explained, Trinitarians are not agreed among themselves." ... "It is not possible for the human intellect to comprehend fully the ... If a good man were to go to Hell and retain his goodness he would be saved. If a bad man were to go to Heaven and retain his evil nature, he would be lost. Heaven must be in us - Hell is in some. The gospel is not the good news that guilty men may be saved ... that Abbott says that early Christians worshipped Jesus (Abbott had to get one thing right!) Even a Liberal like Abbott admits that Jesus was considered God and worshipped as God by the earliest Christians, even though he likely doesn't believe it himself. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Abbott.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Isaiah 45:23-24 = Philippians 2:9-11 Trinity Proof Texts Click to View Isaiah 45:23-24: "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. They will say of Me, 'Only ... But if they call upon the name of Jesus alone they will be saved! (Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved.") So at the name of Jesus alone, we ... Only enemies will bow at Christians feet, not all creation. Philippians 2:9-11 has both enemies and righteous bowing to Jesus! 'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews, and are not, but lie-behold, I will make them to come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you. Rev 3:9 Isaiah 45:23-24 = Phil 2:9-11 has ALL CREATION bowing down to Jesus. (this also proves Jesus is not a creature) We see ALL CREATION bowing down to both Father and Son ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-philippians9-11.htm

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Sola Scriptura: The Heretics even quoted scripture! Perhaps there is more truth to this than what first appears! Perhaps only Catholic cannot refute heretics with the scriptures... Christians, on the other hand, have not ... Click here to learn why. "Proponents of sola Scriptura often point out that the early Church Fathers appealed to the Scriptures for authority during the doctrinal ... affirming the doctrine of the Trinity." (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 102) "Now that we have exposed their plan of belittling the Son under cover of magnifying the Father, the next step is to listen to the exact terms in which they express their own belief concerning the Son. For, since we have to answer in succession each of their allegations and to display on the evidence of Holy Scripture the impiety ... Yet it is certainly by these same words of God that we must come to understand the things of God." (Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, Book IV, 14) Click to View An amazing ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-heretics-used-scripture.htm

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