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30-150AD: Church organization the same as in the Bible Blueprint ... Click to View Learn from the Bible Blueprint, how the church was organized by the apostles! Click to View Find a local congregation of the New Testament church that is organized exactly as the Bible says! The simple bible blueprint of church organization where a group of equal elders (presbyters) govern only within their own local church meeting the full qualifications of 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1. 30-150AD: No trace of the Roman Catholic papal or the Orthodox patriarchal systems. Click to View John Paul II Catholic, Bishop of Rome, Pope Click to View Introduction Click to View Graphical Mouse Rollover ... This is evident from the following passage from Titus 1:5-7." (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 156) This proves false, the Catholic and Orthodox claim of being the apostolic church. C. What Scholars say about the period of 33 A.D. - 150 AD: We proceed to the officers of local congregations who were charged with carrying forward ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-33-150AD.htm

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The Apostolic Fathers believed man-made creeds were tradition ... The Apostolic Fathers believed man-made creeds were tradition based 100% on scripture. "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." (2 Thessalonians 2:15) Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Introduction: The "Rule of faith" (creeds) of the early church was the scripture itself. By 180 AD, oral and written creeds began to come into general use. It is important to note, that these creeds were based 100% on scripture, and 0% on oral tradition. For Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders to ... In 325 AD, the Nicene Creed became the first creed that was considered universal law and equal to the Bible. Indeed, the authors of the Nicene creed stated that every clause and phrase was based ... "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-4-creeds.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 180 AD: Irenaeus Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for Catholics and Orthodox. 180 AD: Irenaeus: "We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom ... of the apostles." (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, book 3, 1, 1) Click to View Irenaeus states that the gospel was first orally revealed, then the gospel was recorded in scriptures and calls the scriptures the "ground and pillar" of faith. This should send shivers up the spine of every Roman Catholic and Orthodox because it is a clear interpretation of 1 Tim 3:15 where the same expression is used of the church. Obviously then, Irenaeus viewed that the church came second in authority under the scriptures. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-irenaeus.htm

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Geographic variation caused New Testament canon variation from ... This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! Geographic variation caused New Testament canon variation from 33 AD - 400 AD Go to: "Canon of the Bible" Home Page Geographic variation caused New Testament canon variation from 33 AD - 400 AD Introduction: 1. It need not disturb the Bible-believing Christian to ... I. Stumper Questions for Roman Catholics and Orthodox: If the Roman Catholic church gave the world the Bible, being infallible, then why did Rome reject or question the inspiration of James and Hebrews , then later accept it? Conversely, Rome accepted as scripture books ... (Even if some agree Revelation was the last book written, but in 69 AD, not 96 AD, it matters not to this study because the principle we are illustrating is unchanged.) This marks the end of the apostolic age and the end of inspiration. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-why-varied-geography-30-400AD.htm

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The false doctrine of Roman Catholic apostolic succession! Click to View Clerical Dress Click to View The Catholic Priesthood Click to View Obedience To Priests Click to View All Christians are priests! Click to View We Speak truth in LOVE tell us if we have misrepresented Catholic Faith Click to View Apostolic Succession ... The facts of history, however, paint an entirely different picture, because the Roman Catholic church, in its present organizational structure, did not exist prior to 606 A.D. Click to View Examining Catholic Successors The aim of this study is to carefully examine the Scriptures regarding the Roman Catholic claim of successors. As in all our writings, our purpose is not to stir up hatred or to create strife. We wish only to make an honest inquiry regarding ... The above Catholic writer affirms that the gospel was once in the inspired teachers and therefore must be learned from authorized human teachers today. No Bible was cited to prove his contention. The argument is unreasonable as well as unscriptural. We might as ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-apostolic-succession.htm

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Sola Scriptura: The illumination of the church by the Holy Spirit ... It also makes all books on earth understandable without the Holy Spirit, except for the Bible, which we are, according to this false doctrine, prevented from understanding until the Holy Spirit illuminates the meaning for us! Click to View The illumination of the church by the Holy Spirit to correctly interpret the Bible is false doctrine! Sola Scriptura home page Click to View The church is not an infallible interpreter of scripture! I. Oral Traditionalists: Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches "But ... primitive is the witness and voice of the Church at this hour." (Henry Edward Manning, The Temporal Mission of the Holy Ghost: Or Reason and Revelation, 1865, p 227-228) The position of the Orthodox Church on the matter is clear: the tradition of the Apostles is the authoritative interpretive matrix within which the Scriptures are rightly understood. The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the primary -and certainly normative - written element of the apostolic tradition. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-illumination-holy-spirit-church.htm

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Apostate church organization: 250-451AD: The rise of the diocesan ... This was a departure from the simple bible blueprint of a group of equal elders (presbyters) governing only within their own local church. Click to View Learn from the Bible Blueprint, how the church was organized by the apostles! Click to View Find a local congregation of the New Testament church that is organized exactly as the Bible says 250-451AD: "The oligarchic diocesan episcopate" The organization of the Eastern Greek Orthodox patriarchal systems is fully formed. The Roman Catholic papal system is developing, but will not flower ... This was due in some degree to the fact that the Roman was an apostolic church, founded, according to current belief, by the two eminent apostles Peter and Paul. It was due in a much larger degree to the political ... As regards the first three centuries, we have to deal only with tendencies toward this species of episcopal supremacy. We shall find here no pope, in the later sense of that term. The claim for that dignity, and the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-250-451AD.htm

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The Apostolic Fathers viewed oral tradition as a duplicate of ... Introduction: It is true that the Apostolic Fathers accepted oral tradition of the apostles as authoritative. However, they believed 100% of apostolic oral tradition (viva voce or living voice) was eventually recorded in scripture. They never indicated that oral tradition was any different or distinct from scripture. Therefore, Christians who advocate Sola Scriptura take the identical view of oral tradition of the apostles, as the Church Fathers did. This is most troubling to Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders of an oral ... A. The Bible texts that support oral revelation as tradition: Then the Lord stretched out His hand and touched my mouth, and the Lord said to me, "Behold, I have put My words in your mouth. Jeremiah 1:9. This is a classic Bible ... Notice the sequence: 1. Living voice of the apostles. 2. subsequently recorded in their epistles. This shows that the Apostolic Fathers viewed the scriptures as containing the totality of the "living voice". Whereas the Roman ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-5-types-2-oral.htm

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Apostolic fathers viewed scripture as complete and final and ... Apostolic fathers viewed scripture as complete and final and that the age of inspiration was ended A conservative, bible believing perspective! God's providence gave us the 27 book New Testament Canon, not the church. God, not men decided the canon. This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! Apostolic fathers viewed scripture as complete and final and that the age of inspiration was ended Go to: "Canon of the Bible" Home Page Apostolic fathers viewed scripture as complete and final and that the age of inspiration was ended Introduction: 1. Pentecostal, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Seventh-day Adventists, Roman Catholic and Orthodox leaders all believe inspiration still happens today. The Jehovah's Witnesses have their inspired Watchtower Magazine, the Seventh-day Adventists make bold claims that Ellen G. White ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scripture-complete-inspiration-ended.htm

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Sola Scriptura is proven by 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Click to View A list of Sola Scriptura proof texts. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View "2 Timothy 3:16-17 doesn't say the Bible is all sufficient by itself." "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16-17) "What Paul does not say [2 Timothy 3:16], however, is that the Scriptures are sufficient all by themselves." (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 122) Click to View Refutation of the false Roman Catholic and Orthodox argument: "2 Timothy 3:16-17 doesn't say the Bible is all ... If we abide with scripture, and scripture alone, we need not look to oral church traditions to learn about any other good works. If we do what the Bible says, God will be happy with us. The ability to read is all you need to refute the false claim made by Clark ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-anti-refuted-2-timothy-3-16.htm

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Debate with Catholic on Sola Scriptura (Riggs Vs Lopez) Sola Scriptura debate! Between David Riggs, Christian And Michael Lopez, Catholic Signed Proposition and rules David J. Riggs Michael Lopez Affirmative Denial ... No doubt, my opponent will ask, "Where does the Bible say: 'the Scriptures alone are the authority'?" Those who ask that question (and others like it) know, as well as I, that there is no such verse. Even though there is no verse which says those exact words, the Scriptures very strongly claim for themselves that they alone are the authority, and I will be ... Also, we learn from the foregoing passages, as well as from all others in the New Testament, that the promise of the Holy Spirit was never made to the church. ... If we are to continue to receive the so-called "oral apostolic traditions" (traditions independent of the Scriptures received orally) as some claim, from ... the Council of Hippo in 390 was a Council of the church which is now the Roman Catholic Church. (4) God did not give councils the authority to select His ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-debate-riggs-lopez.htm

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Seven Myths Of Denominationalism! ... bible study by those who are disciples of Jesus Christ. This study will greatly enrich all that participate, and it will lead to a greater respect for the Word of God. I am not so arrogant as to think that my conclusions regarding the holy scriptures are the only ones acceptable to God. However, the average church member in the denominational world has never considered some of the major truths of God's word. For that reason they are accepting, practicing and teaching many false doctrines that were inherited from the Roman Catholic church or that have evolved since the ... We hope you will challenge everything in this book. Other than the scriptural quotations, this is not an inspired work; to claim such would be sinful and would curse this author with the plagues written in the ... We will divide our presentation into three categories: (1) Jesus' teachings in the gospels, (2) inspired apostolic examples throughout the book of Acts, and (3) the teachings of the Holy Spirit through the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/r-7-myths-of-denominationalism.htm

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The Bible can be interpreted correctly by every person without ... 1:1; 2 Thess. 1:1 ; 1 Pet 1:1; 2 Pet 1:1; Rev. 1:4. Click to View Typical false statement by those who reject sola Scriptura: "The idea that the Scriptures are self-interpreting is patently absurd. It assumes a degree of absolute objectivity that would make the most ardent positivist cringe with embarrassment. ... this is exactly what the doctrine of sola Scriptura assumes: a bare text that somehow imposes its meaning on the reader." (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 100) Three false sources of truth other than the Bible: Click to View #1: Illumination of the Church Organization by the Holy Spirit The church is not an infallible source of truth Click to View The church is not illuminated by the Holy Spirit! Click to View The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches both claim the Bible cannot be understood by the common man and that only the church can properly interpret scripture. This is false doctrine. Click to View #2: ... ... https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-interpretation.htm

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Scripture contains a pattern that must to be followed. The Apostolic fathers viewed Scripture as containing a complete pattern that must to be followed A conservative, bible believing perspective! God's providence gave us the 27 book New Testament Canon, not the church. God, not men decided the canon. This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! ... Patternism is the act of following scripture so closely that you view it as a mold or form, that we are to duplicate morally and doctrinally in our lives. Roman Catholics and ... Irenaeus and the orthodox said there was a plan or plot within scripture itself. It is all the more significant that this plot derived from placing the Christian sources of ... He denies this right to the heretics because the scriptures belong to the catholic Christians (ch. 15; 19). He charged Valentinus with tampering with the scriptures "by his ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-scripture-pattern.htm

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Sola Scriptura: The Holy Spirit does not guide us to understand ... This false doctrine makes God incapable of writing to be understood, while men can be understood in the newspaper. It also makes all books on earth understandable without the Holy Spirit, except for the Bible, which we are, according to this false doctrine, prevented from understanding until the Holy Spirit illuminates the meaning for us! Sola Scriptura home page I. Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders make this correct observation about the Protestant "inward witness of the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible": Protestants all claim to ... Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 81) II. Protestant/Reformed: Inward Witness Creedalists: A. Falsely believe the Holy Spirit guides or "illuminates" them to understand the Bible: "Nevertheless, we acknowledge the inward illumination of the Spirit of God to be necessary for the saving understanding of such things as are revealed in the Word" (Westminster Confession of faith, 6:6) If the Scriptures be a plain book, and ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-illumination-holy-spirit-individual.htm

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Interactive Bible Home Page www.bible.ca ... False doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church 1. The Roman Catholic church examined Is the Roman Catholic church the original one true church? 2. Introduction and overview to Roman Catholicism: Start here 3. Irrefutable questions that Roman Catholics can't answer 4. The Catholic church did not give the world the Bible by her authority! 5. The apostate doctrine of Roman Catholic papal infallibility 6. Extra-Biblical oral apostolic tradition does not exist today 7. Sola Scriptura: Using the Bible only to the exclusion of oral church tradition 8. The unbiblical apostate organization of the Roman Catholic church 9. Massive list of Roman Catholic False doctrines 10. The apocrypha is not inspired 11. Tradition wars: The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches make the identical claim of apostolic succession, yet are so different they are not even in communion! 12. Mariolatry: The worship and adoration of the Virgin Mary 13. Doctrinal evolution: Roman Catholic doctrinal flip flops False ... ... https://www.bible.ca/

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 325 AD: Athanasius Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for Catholics and Orthodox. 325 AD: Athanasius: "the sacred and inspired Scriptures are sufficient to declare the truth" (Athanasius, Against the Heathen, part 1, 1, 3) Click to View ... only the fear of God and the Apostolical rule shall prevail; that so in the first place, the faith of the Church may be secure, as the Fathers defined it in the Council of Nicaea (Athanasius, History of the Arians, Part ... We do not question that Athanasius took the view that there was a tradition based upon succession of bishops in all the hundreds of churches. We simply point out that until the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches can point out a ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-athanasius.htm

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Apostate church organization: 451-588AD: The reign of the 5 Patriarchs ... 606 AD-Today Click to View Catholic organization today Click to View Orthodox organization today Click to View True Bible organization today Click to View Find a local congregation of the New Testament church in your own home town. ... Yet a few years later, the new bishop of Rome takes, for the first time, the title of "Universal Bishop". This power grab finally split East and West, creating the Roman Catholic church and the Greek Orthodox church. B. 452 AD: What Pope Leo I actually said: (Strong claims he ... From which model has arisen a distinction between bishops also, and by an important ordinance it has been provided that every one should not claim everything for himself: but that there should be in each province one whose opinion should ... Obedience to the pope is thus necessary to salvation. Whosoever, says he, is not with the apostolic see, that is, with the head of the body, whence all gifts of grace descend throughout the body, is not in the body of the church, and has ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-451-588AD.htm

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Sola Scriptura: "Paul quoted an early hymn from tradition in ... Paul got the phrase directly from the Holy Spirit. Inspiration means that the prophecy did not come by an act of human will. We are offended that anyone would suggest the authors of the Bible rely upon human records and not the Holy Spirit. "no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke ... Notice that all this is done with the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit. Why would it surprise us if Paul quotes one of these inspired hymns that was familiar to the early church. Of course for Roman Catholic and Orthodox oral tradition defenders, create a huge problem for themselves since they possess no record of inspired hymns from the first century and currently make no claim to even know of any inspired hymns the early church used. If they did have any inspired songs, they would use them in all their "masses". Yes there were several later hymns and poetry recorded by the Apostolic Fathers, but the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches do not use ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-awake-o-sleeper-Eph-5-14.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based ... Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based upon tradition Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Proverbs 8:22 "The created wisdom woman" The first historical reference to wrongly interpreting Prov 8:22 ... The Orthodox countered that the passage refers to the humanity of Christ, not to His divinity. Here we have two groups that recognized the same Scriptures and agreed that the verse in question refers to Christ, yet they ... p 102) Carlton, is always looking for ways to trash the need for the Bible and would love it if all Bibles on earth were destroyed and all we had left was the opinion of his Orthodox Church. He actually uses Prov 8:22 as an example of why sola Scriptura doesn't work. What it proves, is that tradition doesn't work, because most Trinitarians today, including the Roman Catholic church, do not apply Prov 8:22 to Christ any more. Although Carlton is wrong when he says the "Orthodox" merely started to apply the text to the "humanity of Christ, not to ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-fathers-mistakes.htm

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Non-Catholic churchgoers before 1965 AD will be cast into hell ... Church, not that of the heretics, but the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church, outside which we believe that no one is saved." (Denzinger 423) Pope Boniface VIII in his Bull Unam Sanctam issued in 1302: "We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff." (Denz. 469) [note: This definition (de fide definita) seems unanswerable, but the liberals boldly claim that this is not a definition intended for the ... "By divine mandate the interpreter and guardian of the Scriptures, and the depository of Sacred Tradition living within her, the Church alone is the entrance to salvation: She alone, by herself, and under the protection and guidance of the ... salvation...Outside the Church no salvation.'" (Fr. Thomas R. Ryan, C.S.S.P., Orestes A. Brownson: A Definitive Biography, Our Sunday Visitor, Huntington, IN, 1978, p. 798, n. 31.) By David J. Riggs Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-one-true-church.htm

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The canon of the Bible: A conservative, bible believing perspective ... God's providence gave us the 27 book New Testament Canon, not the church. God, not men decided the canon. This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that God had his eye on the scriptures the whole time and brought about His will to form the Bible we see today! A conservative, bible believing perspective! 1. 100AD: All 27 ... Acceptance of the "disputed" NT books: Hebrews, 2 Peter, James, 2 John, 3 John, Revelation 7. Rejection of "disputed" books: 1 Clement, Shepherd of Hermas, Epistle of Barnabas etc. I. Canon of the New Testament: 1. Bible books quoted by the Apostolic Fathers 2. Criteria used by apostolic ... II. Canon of the Old Testament: 1. Which Old Testament text did Jesus prefer and quote from? 2. A list of Old Testament books quoted by Jesus and other New Testament writers 3. The Old Testament Canon: The council of Jamnia 4. List of books in the Christian Bible, Roman Catholic Bible, Greek Orthodox Bible III. Refuting ... ... https://www.bible.ca/canon.htm

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Apostate church organization: 588 - 606 AD: The final dog fight ... Apostate church organization: 588 - 606 AD: The final dog fight between Rome and Constantinople for control of the world! This was a departure from the simple bible blueprint of a group of equal elders (presbyters) governing only within their ... bishop" saying such a claim is a sign "the antichrist is near" and calls it a "proud and profane title" and equates John IV's to the devil himself. 4 595 AD: John IV the Faster dies on September 2, shortly after claiming to be pope of the world. 5 602 AD Roman Emperor Maurice is murdered ... The Historical Development of the Papal and Patriarchal Systems of Centralized Church Government. Click to View John Paul II Catholic, Bishop of Rome, ... 606 AD-Today Click to View Catholic organization today Click to View Orthodox organization today Click to View True Bible organization today Click to ... Hence, though there were several apostles, there is but one apostolic see, that of the prince of the apostles, which has acquired great authority; and ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/ntx-organization-historical-development-papal-patriarchal-systems-588-606AD.htm

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Sola Scriptura: 2 Timothy 2:2 does not prove apostolic succession ... are refuted. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View "2 Timothy 2:2 proves apostolic succession and oral tradition." The things which you have heard from me in the ... from whom you have learned them" 2 Timothy 3:14. Click to View Refutation of the false Catholic & Orthodox tradition argument: "2 Timothy 2:2 proves apostolic succession and oral tradition." ... What was taught within these four generations may have included oral revelation, but this oral doctrine was also taught in scripture. For Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders who ... No tradition says that Timothy was Paul's successor. We have no line of successors in history either. Why didn't Paul make this claim of succession to someone who was to be bishop ... Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-refuted-succession-2-timothy-2-2.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 360 AD: Cyril of Jerusalem Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for ... For this salvation which we believe depends not on ingenious reasoning, but on demonstration of the Holy Scriptures. (Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lecture 4, 17) Click to View What an incredible statement! Cyril sure sounds like one of us "good 'ol Bible thumping Protestants"! He sure doesn't sound very "Catholic or Orthodox". Although he knew of creeds and canons, was himself a Bishop of authority, he ... "But in learning the Faith and in professing it, acquire and keep that only, which is now delivered to thee by the Church, and which has been built up strongly out of all the Scriptures. ... It must be most unsettling for Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders to learn that Cyril identifies Tradition as "the scripture". The Nicene creed certainly cannot be used by these defenders as ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-cyril.htm

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Acapella Responsive Singing, No Instruments in first century ... Of course, this is utterly refuted in the previous comments. Those bent on introducing instrumental music into the church really don't care about Bible authority at all and their arguments are deceptive games. They are simply on the wrong side of truth. "He who has ears, let him hear". 4. The first time instruments were brought into church worship was in 670 AD in Rome and it was the direct cause of the great split of 1054 AD between the Roman Catholic church and the Orthodox. a. Instrumental music was one ... It was a non-sacrificial worship and a rational service to which, as an extension either of prayer or of reading the Scriptures, had been added the chanting of the Psalms. Since a special vocal use of psallo is first and most clearly ... Werner adds, "The primitive Christian community held the same view, as we know from apostolic and post-apostolic literature: instrumental music was thought unfit for religious services. ... What one observes there are two separate ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Acapella-responsive-singing-non-instrumental-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-worship-prototype-ancient-Synagogue-ritual-liturgy-worship.htm

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The Ignatian Forgeries: They claim to be written by Ignatius ... They claim to be written by Ignatius in 110 AD, but were forged by another in about 250 AD that deceptively claimed to be Ignatius. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other info. All scholars reject 8 of Ignatius' alleged writings as forgeries and say the 7 remaining letters are genuine and were written in 110AD. Some scholars reject them all as forgeries that were written about 250AD We take the firm view that all 15 Ignatian letters are forgeries. All of the letters that claim to be written by Ignatius are fakes. Almost nothing is known about the real Ignatius. See Schaff's comments ... Click to View 30-606 AD: The gradual historical Development of the Papal and Patriarchal Systems of Centralized Church Government away from the organization found in the Bible. Click to View Outline: True Bible organization is very different from the Roman Catholic and Orthodox church organizations. Now of course, Roman Catholics and Orthodox simply cannot accept that all of ... ... https://www.bible.ca/history-ignatius-forgeries-250AD.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 370 AD: Basil Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for Catholics and Orthodox. 370 AD: ... View What a "flagship passage"! Every Roman Catholic and Orthodox priest should be required to hand scribe this text by Basil on parchment, rolled up and placed in a little clear bottle and hung around their neck! For the Roman Catholics who refuse to believe that such words could fall from the lips of a Catholic bishop, the Pope describes Basil as, "one of the most distinguished Doctors of the Church". ... Sure some powerless but ambitious pew-dwelling Catholic might want to debate, but what's the point, when they don't even believe they can even understand the scriptures themselves! But ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-basil.htm

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sola-scriptura-oral-written-final to support their doctrines without doing a proper and though study. Again this sounds real "Catholic" or "Orthodox" because they are lazy and want the priest to simply tell them what the Bible says, rather than doing the work and studying the scriptures for themselves! "From this, therefore, do we draw up our rule. ... We hold communion with the apostolic churches because our doctrine is in no respect different from theirs. This is our witness of truth." (Tertullian, The prescription against the heretics, Ch 21) Click to View Tertullian clearly states that their doctrine and practice is identical to what the apostles taught orally and with scripture. Tertullian uses the expression "viva voce" (living voice) which is merely a reference to inspired oral revelation. The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches have changed the original meaning of "viva voce" from the words spoken by inspired apostles, to whatever the current practice and dogma of the church is today. Here is proof: "But the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-oral-written-final.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Paul did not commanded extra-biblical oral traditions ... If the written word completely supplants oral tradition as Evangelicals argue, then why did Paul tell the Thessalonians to maintain oral tradition? (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark ... Until then, we follow scripture because oral tradition by nature is unreliable. Exactly whose oral tradition should we follow between the Catholic and the Orthodox? Both make the claim only they possess true apostolic tradition, yet their oral traditions differ so greatly, they anathematize each ... This shows that the Apostolic Fathers viewed the scriptures as containing the totality of the "living voice". Therefore, even Tertullian operated on sola Scriptura because the only traditions he would accept were those recorded in ... the deception of the Orthodox and Catholic churches. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-2-thessalonians-2-15.htm

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Creeds: The ancient "rule of faith" (regula fidei) was not a ... Click to View Sola Scriptura home page The Reform tradition uses Calvin's institute as a formal creed interprets the Bible through the one work of this single man. Most members of the churches of Christ, have never even ... Thus, by means of that ancient tradition of the apostles, they do not suffer their mind to conceive anything of the [doctrines suggested by the] portentous language of these teachers, among whom neither Church nor doctrine ... We agree that it was a creed, but notice it contains absolutely nothing, except what the scriptures specifically reveal. This would have been a powerful witness for the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches if such a "rule of faith" actually contained doctrinal details not found in scripture like: the perpetual virginity and assumption of Mary; purgatory; infant baptism; triple baptism; the sign of the cross etc. In fact, Tertullian's "rule of faith" is proof of our major premise, namely, that all such "apostolic traditions" that were ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-creeds-rule-of-faith-regula-fidei.htm

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Review of what the Canadian Christian Missionary Alliance church ... As you will plainly see, the Bible is NOT the sole standard of faith, but a human origin creed is. Although the Christian Missionary Alliance church would argue that the creed merely teaches the Bible, in fact all church creeds make the same claim, yet they contain contradictory doctrines both between themselves and the Bible. All doctrine determined from central point like Roman Catholic faith: "The General Assembly," [world headquarters] ... This of course emphasizes the Alliance Churches correct opposition to the modern Pentecostal faith healing movement. The Alliance church correctly teaches that tongues ceased in the first century and are a phenomenon of isolated to the apostolic age. Article #9: correctly ... is imminent and will be personal, visible and premillennial" (Christian Missionary Alliance Statement of Faith, Article 11). The scriptures do not teach that divine Jesus Christ will ever set foot on the earth again, but that at His second coming, the dead will be raised ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-Christian-Missionary-Alliance.htm

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Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!!! ... Matthew 1:24-25 Click to View Click here for proof Mary had other children. Question #3: The Bible says there is only one mediator between God and man. Is mary that one mediator? ... of the Lord and it is usually reserved for church leaders only. Yes there are denominations within the Roman Catholic "communion" where some RC sects actually offer the juice, but most Mass attending Catholics know they rarely drink the cup of wine. ... formally approved by the Catholic Council of Constance in 1415 AD. So for the first 1000 years, the Catholics in the Pews drink the cup, then the Pope changed this apostolic tradition. ... The Orthodox church refused sprinkling and still immerses to this day. Click to View Question #1: Was Jesus baptized by full immersion in the Jordan River? Answer: Matthew 3:16 o YES NO ... Click to View Question #1: Do the scriptures say that when anyone reads the Bible, they can understand for themselves? Answer: Ephesians 3:4 o YES NO o "By referring to this, when you ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-overview-false-teaching.htm

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Official creed of the Evangelical church ... Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come ... And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church; acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. C. Definition of ... E. An Evangelical Statement (Adapted from the National Association of Evangelicals) We believe the Bible to be the only inerrant Word of God. It is our only ultimate and infallible authority for ... We hereby amplify the stated intention of this confederation as found in the preamble to its constitution which "...is not intended as a separation from other orthodox believers who confess the ... For the rest, we desire to operate in terms of a sanctified Christian prudence, with all things done in good order and biblical decency. We make no claim that every detail of our confederated ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-evangelical.htm

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Earliest evidence for the New Testament canon ... II. What Scholars have said: Thus it is entirely possible to possess scriptures without having a canon, and this was in fact the situation in the first few centuries of the Christian church. (Lee Martin McDonald, James A. ... From this perspective, the same documented debates that are usually evaluated to demonstrate a gradual growth process of the canon serve instead as proof that the Canonical Edition of the Christian Bible was finished, ... Zahn developed his position, which was supported with formidable scholarship, by an exhaustive study of the early canonical lists, Marcion, and the Apostolic Fathers, especially Clement, Polycarp, and Ignatius. He argued that ... III. Roman Catholic and Orthodox confuse the issue: 1. False claims by Catholic and Orthodox church leaders like James Bernstein: "The second big surprise came when I realized that the first complete listing of New Testament books as we have them today did not appear until over 300 years after the death and ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-earliest-evidence.htm

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The Madaba map (mosaic floor) 542 AD St. George's Orthodox church ... ... We would expect it to be directly above Praesidium, Thamara, Moa and above and to the left of "The desert where the Serpent of brass saved the Israelites". Click to View There is one reference in the Bible to ... Sinai and the shape of the Red Sea. We must keep in mind that in 545 AD, the prevailing view of the Western/Latin church (Rome/Roman Catholic) was that Mt. Sinai was located at Mt. Musa in the modern Sinai peninsula. The Madaba Map is located deep into Eastern/Greek (Constantinople/Orthodox) territory of the church. It is entirely possible that there was a rift ... that highlights the events of Num 21:4-9. What we do learn from all this, is that their understanding of the Gulf of Aqaba was as bad as their understanding of the Bible geography as the scriptures revealed. ... Eusebius was wrong, and everybody knew it, perhaps he himself included. The Samaritans laid claim to the mountains, considering them to be their own holy mountains. Hostility to the Samaritans forced the ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-madaba-map.htm

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Four positions on the day of Christian worship Click to View The false position taught by Sabbatarians that Saturday is the day Christians worship. Click to View The false position taught by the Catholic Church that the Pope ... "The first day of the week is commonly called the Sabbath. This is a mistake. The Sabbath of the Bible was the day just preceding the first day of the week. The first day of the week is never called the Sabbath anywhere in the entire Scriptures. It is also an error to talk about the change of the Sabbath ... first pope was in 606 AD not Peter) and that the very earliest Christians, in apostolic times "transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday", by the will of God. ... Anglican, Episcopal Same as false Catholic view Click here to learn more about the false Catholic claim to have changed the day to Sunday. Click here to learn that ... part 2, chapter 1, Section 10) "They [Roman Catholics] refer to the Sabbath Day, a shaving been changed into the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it seems. ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-4-positions.htm

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Development from the trinity as taught in the Bible and the trinity ... JW's have shot themselves in the foot so often in the last 75 years, their only escape from absolute ridicule is to claim Doctrinal development like the ... But for Jw's the rejection of Catholic doctrinal development, while teaching the identical thing themselves, is typical of the wild contradictions that ... to defend it, that first compelled the Church to face the duty of formulating a full doctrine of the Trinity for its rule of faith." (New Bible Dictionary, J. D. Douglas & F. F. Bruce, Trinity, p 1298) In the immediate post New Testament period of the Apostolic Fathers no attempt was made to work out the God-Christ (Father-Son) relationship in ontological terms. ... By the close of the fourth century the orthodox teaching was in place: God is one nature, three persons (mia ousia, treis hupostaseis). (The Encyclopedia ... Although Christians correctly says that the "Nicene concept of Trinity" is not in the Bible, they would say that early Christians and the scriptures ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-development.htm

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Neo-Montanism: Pentecostalism is the ancient heresy of Montanism ... ... Seymour went to Los Angeles and began to preach about the Holy Spirit baptism in a barn/warehouse on Azusa. What Eyewitness said about the Azusa Street Mission All these men are respected Bible ... He expected supernatural signs and miracles to be exhibited today as they were in the early Apostolic Church. Ellen Gould White, founder of the Seventh Day Adventist sect, was considered a ... in 1944. Kathryn Kuhlman was ordained a Baptist minister, but did not associate her ministry with any denomination She was heavily influenced by the Azusa street revival, and by the Roman Catholic church. ... God's Word consists of the zodiac, Egyptian pyramids and scripture. Doctrine of trinity is considered demonic The claim that he was Elijah the prophet Millennium to begin in 1977. That he was the ... Remember that error always compounds itself unless it is checked and denounced by the plain teaching of the Scriptures. Heresy thrives when people are asleep and have a shallow in their devotion ... ... https://www.bible.ca/tongues-neo-montanism.htm

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Gifts ceased: Encyclopedia of Pentecostal objections and their ... We now consider and refute all Pentecostal Objections to the fact that the Bible teaches spiritual gifts ceased at the end of the apostolic age around 100AD Actual Pentecostal objections & rebuttals Pentecostal Objections refuted! "One of the pillars of the ... This is a common slur that Pentecostals label upon any church that does not claim 20th century tongues. They call such churches, "dead, lifeless, spirit lacking churches" ... all because they do not roll around on the floor ... Arndt and Gingrich These scriptures refer to thorough knowledge in this life, not to some greater knowledge gained in heaven "Know fully" refers to God's revelation to man: the Bible Some say that our ... At least it is unrealistic to see Paul as knowing whether or not the Scriptures were complete. Pentecostals who argue this fail to realize that this is exactly the same argument that Roman Catholics use to sustain their view that there was no fixed canon until the 5th century, when the Catholic church ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/tongues-ceased-pentecostal-arguments-refuted.htm

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Encyclopedia Americana JW's love to quote major recognized works, but they deliberately practice selective quoting to deceptively project a view opposite to what this excellent source is saying. Americana is a source that refutes every claim ... is One in "sub- stance" (Latin substantia, existence or inner essence), and thus combines in it "mystery" (a formula or conception which really transcends human understanding) the truths set forth in the Holy Scriptures. ... The watchtower deliberately and knowingly misrepresents Americana to say the opposite, namely that trinity is not Bible based but of pagan. But it gets even worse! Americana plainly states that the apostolic church believed in the deity of Christ! "For the early Christian belief that Jesus was divine" We are utterly ... The classical exposition is found in the works of St. Thomas Aquinas, whose views on this subject have dominated most of later Christian theology, both Roman Catholic and Protestant. (Encyclopedia Americana, Trinity, p116) Go To ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Americana.htm

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Life of Mrs. E.G. White - Her Claims Refuted, by D.M. Canright ... the prophetess, leader, and chief founder of the Seventh-day Adventists Church, claimed to be divinely inspired by God the same as were the prophets of the Bible. ... Her writings are read in their churches, taught in their schools, and preached by their ministers the same as the Holy Scriptures. Their church stands or falls with her claims. ... Why I Once Believed Mrs. White Inspired I once accepted Mrs. White's claim to inspiration for the same reason that most of her followers do. I first accepted the ... Opening the disciplines of the various orthodox churches, such as Methodists, Baptists and Presbyterians, we find each beginning its articles of faith thus: "We ... Here we have an infallible female pope endorsed as such by that church. They claim for her exactly the same prerogative which the Catholic Church claims for the ... This fresh outbreak threw the Roman captain into great perplexity. He had not understood Paul's Hebrew address, and concluded from the general excitement that his ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/7-Life-of-White-her-claims-refuted-canright.htm

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The Error of the Catholic Nicene Trinity ... in the Bible" vs. the "Trinity that is not found in the Bible"! All the Trinitarian authors below make reference to both in each statement. If you do not take the care to mentally identify the Biblical trinity vs. the Catholic trinity in each statement, you will be as hopelessly ... New Testament period of the Apostolic Fathers no attempt was made to work out the God-Christ (Father-Son) relationship in ontological terms. ... By the close of the fourth century the orthodox teaching was in place: God is one nature, three persons (mia ousia, treis hupostaseis). (The ... to a dogmatic formulation of a doctrine of the Triune God, we look first to the Eastern Church where most of this development took place. ... But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been ... The Pastoral Question. There are few teachers of Trinitarian theology in Roman Catholic seminaries who have not been badgered at one time or ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-catholic-nicene.htm

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Sabbath and Sunday in Early Christianity: Dr. David W. T. Brattston of the Roman emperor Constantine in the early fourth century AD, when he changed it from Saturday to win over non-Christian sun worshippers. Consulting early Christian practices and customs is a good idea because they record how Christians lived their faith when the unwritten teachings and Bible ... Although we may doubt that this Letter is inspired or scripture or even apostolic, it does witness to an early date for Christians observing Sunday and ... Tertullian probably wrote On Idolatry in his earlier, "catholic" period, when he was a member of the mainline or "Great Church", between AD 198 and the 220s. In Chapter 14, after noting of Christians that "by us, to ... Chapter 4.1 is more bold: "the Sabbath is demonstrated to have been temporary" and opines that any references to it in Christian Scriptures denotes the ... Sabbath, was Tertullian's On Modesty 5. This was in a violent attack against the orthodox, mainstream, church after he had joined a narrow, rigorous, sect. ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday-sabbath-and-sunday-in-early-christianity-before-400AD-DavidW.T.Brattston.htm

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Catholic Encyclopedia's and Dictionaries ... many places of the OT, however, expressions are used in which some of the Fathers of the Church saw references or foreshadowings of the Trinity. ... ... Paul's recurrent use of the terms God, Lord, and Spirit. (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1965, "Trinity, in the Bible", p306) Deception exposed: Also ... Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1965, Trinity, p299-300, As quoted in "Should you believe in the trinity?", Watchtower booklet) "Question of ... But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing ... What they left out to deliberately misrepresent the source and deceive you: "There are few teachers of Trinitarian theology in Roman Catholic ... been prepared to find traces of the doctrine in the ancient Scriptures, and have often satisfied themselves that such traces exist in cases ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Catholic.htm

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SUMMARY: PROOF that TRINITY is NOT of PAGAN origin! (Note: No encyclopedia says Trinity is of pagan origin!) "The fact that the church fathers never defend trinity against a charge of pagan influence is significant. ... Sabbatarians are guilty of the same thing when they quote the Catholics Authorities as proof that the Pope changed the sabbath to Sunday but reject the same Catholic authorities when they ALSO claim ... is the majority orthodox view among "scholars". Second sometimes, even in the same article, will quote different Trinitarian sources and say: "see even the Trinitarians know that trinity doctrine originated with the pagans!" Now if you just stop and think for a minute, what "Bible believing ... No wonder anti-Trinitarians have to go to pagan and atheistic sources to prove their doctrine! We openly admit that the Roman Catholics borrowed Christmas, Easter, ... with a comparison of these things with the inspired Word of God, the Holy Scriptures." (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1959, p. 607-608) See the whole book: Arthur Weigall ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-not-pagan-reasons.htm

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What makes an apostle The Gift of the Holy Spirit ... A. Several denominations claim to have living apostles today but they weren't chosen by Christ! They weren't chosen by Christ! They merely claim this They have no ... a. In a similar way we can have the benefit of the apostles today when we read Bible! 2. Jude 3 faith was delivered once for all time: apostles would continue to be ... in the midst of the apostolic age that they may thereby seem to have been handed down apostles, because they existed in the time of the apostles" (III:258). e. ... at all;" (III: 286) 2. "The historians and theologians of the early church unanimously maintained that tongues ceased to exist after the time of the apostles. ... Apparently no other tongues-speaking was practiced in Christianity until the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, when it appeared in several Roman Catholic groups in ... For over 1800 years the gift of tongues, along with the other miracle gifts, was unknown in the life and doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Then, around the turn of ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Holy-Spirit-Qualifications-of-an-apostle.htm

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The Dugger-Porter Debate on Sunday as the Lord's Day ... were many lights in the upper chambers (verse 8), hence this meeting was a Saturday night meeting, for the first day of the week commences at sundown Saturday, (Bible time), and what right have we to use any other time. ... Why jump at conclusions and claim this was a religious meeting scheduled to take place every first day of the week, when the scriptures no where say so. You are assuming this. It is a jump into the dark, and it only provides you with a flimsy straw to hold to a popular worldly practice of keeping Sunday. You know the ... yourself this much, or bear this cross, therefore like a drowning man you grasp at a straw to support this pagan institution christened by the Roman Catholic church, and forced upon the world to take the place of the ancient Sabbath . ... My friend seems to think I have slighted his most important arguments in favor of Sunday observance, but the readers will be the judge of this. No argument in favor of first day observance by the apostolic church has ... ... https://www.bible.ca/7-debate-porter-dugger.htm

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"KJV Only" advocates refuted! ... original language, but also in the translation process. This claim of an inspired translation process is not made for any other Bible translation. ... than the original Greek language manuscripts? Why should Bible students throw out their Greek dictionaries and buy an "archaic English" dictionary? ... Does not this show that the translators were influenced by their contemporary theology and the Catholic false doctrine of "sainthood"? Do KJV only advocates realize that they stand beside the Mormon church in that both groups believe that they were ... The doctrine held by many is that the Scriptures as originally given were absolutely infallible and inerrant, and that our English translation is a ... "Easter" Acts 12:4 "Passover"(Easter very poor choice as it confuses the pagan origin Roman Catholic "Easter" holy day with what the TR clearly says ... not so sound and so perfect, but it needed in many places correction; and who had been so sufficient for this work as the Apostles or Apostolic men? ... ... https://www.bible.ca/b-kjv-only.htm

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REFUTED: Full-Preterist, "Realized Eschatology", "AD 70 doctrine ... ... but informed members of the Church of Christ can easily refute them: a. Full-Preterists find futurists and premillennialists easy to sway with their false doctrine for two reasons. First, they tend to be generally Bible illiterate and second, they misapply the ... It is exactly like a Seventh-day Adventist who knocks on the door of a Catholic and asks him, "Do you keep the ten commandments and the ... reigned 37 years counting from his appointment by the Mark Antony and the Roman Senate, or 34 years counting from his conquest of Jerusalem. ... Jacob and all the holy prophets." (JW publication: Studies In the Scriptures, IV, p625, 1897 AD) ii. "That the deliverance of the saints ... Paul and Barnabas used "approved apostolic example" by describing how they have saved thousands of Gentiles without circumcision and the Holy ... For CBV Full-Preterists it is even worse because they claim that the SUBSTITUTIONARY death of Christ was NOT his physical death and shedding ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/revelation/Refuted-Full-Preterism-Realized-eschatology-debunked-exposed-second-coming-Parousia-rapture-destruction-Jerusalem-70AD-Doctrine-Revelation-Commentary.htm

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