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The Roman Catholic view of Marriage is flawed, incomplete and ... ... not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?), and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil. And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. " 1 Timothy 3:1-7 V. Sexual abuse scandals Most of the sexual abuse problems within the Catholic church could have been prevented if they had not adopted the false doctrine that church leaders cannot be married. Orthodox leaders have always been allowed to be married and the statistical facts speak for themselves: Sex abuse scandals are dramatically reduced when church leaders are permitted to marry. Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/catholic-marriage-birth-control-celibacy.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 200 AD: Hippolytus Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic ... nor according to our own mind, nor yet as using violently those things which are given by God, but even as He has chosen to teach them by the Holy Scriptures, so let us discern them." (Hippolytus, Against Noetus, ch 9) Click to View This is a powerful contradiction and refutation to the modern Roman Catholic and Orthodox view of tradition. ... Rome do not observe those things in all cases which are handed down from the beginning, and vainly pretend the authority of the apostles" (Cyprian, Epistle 74, 6) This is very bad news for the Roman Catholics who claim unbroken apostolic authority back to the first century! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-hippolytus.htm

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The Catholic Church did not Give the world The Bible! ... It was a gift from the Patriarch of Constantinople (of the Greek Orthodox Church) to Charles I in 1628. It had been in possession of the Patriarchs for centuries and originally came from Alexandria, Egypt from which it gets its name. Scholars are certain that this manuscript was also made in the fourth century and, along with the Codex Sinaiticus, is thought to be one of the fifty Greek Bibles commissioned to be copied by Constantine. In the light of the foregoing, the boastful claim of the Roman Catholic Church that it has been the sole guardian and preserver of the sacred Scriptures down to the present, is nothing but pure falsehood. The Bible is not a Catholic ... Origen, born A.D. 185 and died A.D. 254, named all the books of the Bible in his writings Eusebius, 270 A.D., lists all of the books of the NT Cyril, 315 A.D. to 386 A.D., lists all NT books, except Revelation Both the Vatican Manuscript and the Sinaitic Manuscript date back earlier than 390 A.D. Click to View Go To Start: WWW... ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-origin.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Jews being sawn in two in Hebrews 11:37 came ... The Hebrew writer got the story directly from the Holy Spirit. Inspiration means that the prophecy did not come by an act of human will. We are offended that anyone would suggest the authors of the Bible rely upon human records and not the Holy Spirit. "no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the ... There are many examples of New Testament doctrines and ideas throughout the book. The Ascension of Isaiah is not oral tradition, but a written tradition. Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders should be spanked for even suggesting that Hebrews 11:37 borrowed from "The Ascension of Isaiah". We want to draw the readers attention to the fact ... sawn in sunder, he neither cried aloud nor wept, but his lips spake with the Holy Spirit until he was sawn in twain." (The Ascension of Isaiah 5:14) Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-sawn-in-two-hebrews-11-37.htm

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Extra-Biblical oral apostolic tradition does not exist today ... dictating, have come down even unto us, transmitted as it were from hand to hand, following the example of the orthodox Fathers, receives and venerates, with an equal affection of piety, all the books of the Old and New Testaments....and also the said traditions...preserved in the Catholic Church by a continuous succession." ... At the risk of hypostatizing the institution, one can say that this surging, which went on for centuries before the declarations, gave the Roman Church a kind of inner compulsion to declare itself." There you have it. Tradition, which is held with an equal degree of pious affection as is the Bible by the Roman Catholic Church, is arrived at not ... will. IF this is true, WHY did the Bereans in Acts 17 11 after hearing two "official spokesman" for the church STUDY THE SCRIPTURES to see if what Paul and Silas had taught were true? Remember we will be judged by God's Word and not the traditions of men (Jn. 12:48). Jim Venturino Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-tradition.htm

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When the Bible was first viewed as having both an "Old and New ... When the Bible was first viewed as having both an "Old and New Testament" A conservative, bible believing perspective! God's providence gave us the 27 book New Testament Canon, not the church. God, not men decided the canon. This providence does not mean that church leaders were inspired in their selecting the canon, only that ... II. Roman Catholic and Orthodox get Marcion wrong: Father James Bernstein, an Orthodox church leader wrote: "It is not until A.D. 200-about 170 years after the death and resurrection of Christ-that we first see the term "New Testament" used, by Tertullian." (Which Came First: The Church or the New Testament?, Fr. James Bernstein, Orthodox ... Testament" came into existence, could be no earlier than 200AD. All the while the term, "New Testament" was found in no less than 8 places in the very scriptures that were read in the church every week from 50 AD. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-old-and-new-testament.htm

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Catholic doctrinal Flip-Flops: Baptism: Changed from immersion ... When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; and the eunuch no longer saw him, but went on his way rejoicing. Acts 8:38-39 C. Bible Baptism is a burial: Only immersion fulfills the meaning of a burial, spinkling makes the idea of baptism being a ... Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life." Romans 6:3-4 The Orthodox church never changed and immerses to this day! More on baptism as immersion. The Apostolic Fathers always baptized by immersion. C. The Roman Catholic church admits baptism by immersion was practiced till 1311 AD: "Baptism ... This is a valid baptism by full immersion. (Left) Not even John Paul II can make right, an infant baptism by sprinkling, that is wrong according to the Bible! (right) Click to View The Bible never changes, but Catholicism does. By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/catholic-flip-flops-baptism-immersion-sprinkling.htm

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Stumper questions Jehovah's Witnesses do not like to be asked ... ... Witnesses opinions that differ from orthodox Watch Tower doctrine? Can individuals read & understand the Bible alone, or do they need an organization and it's publications to do so? Click here find the answer! How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled? What is the difference between a Catholic appealing to "what the organization tells him" about December 25 being the date of Jesus' birthday and a Jw' appealing to "what the organization tells him" about the date 1935? Is it not hypocritical when you chide the "poor deluded Catholic" that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same ... a little about the organization and WT teachings how they can bring your average 20-40 year JW to his knees just by asking a few simple questions. How sad! Print Me! File-Save Me! Click to View We speak the truth in Love... Click to View Go back to Main Jehovah's Witness Index Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/jw-questions.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Scripture recorded the prophets were persecuted ... law as ordained by angels, and yet did not keep it." Acts 7:52-53 Click to View Refutation of the false Catholic & Orthodox tradition argument: "Only oral tradition knew that all the prophets were persecuted in Acts 7:52." Scripture recorded the prophets were persecuted in Acts 7:52 The Lord, the God of their fathers, sent word to them again and again by His messengers, because He had compassion on His people and on His dwelling place; but they continually mocked the messengers of God, despised His words and scoffed at His prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against His people, until there was no remedy. 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 The theme that the Jews persecuted the all the prophets is recorded in the Old Testament in great detail. There is no need to appeal to oral tradition, when you have specific Bible verses. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-persecuted-prophets-acts-7-52.htm

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Joel 2:28, Promise of the Father, Baptism of the Holy Spirit ... ... Its all bogus! 3. We know for certain that the apostles performed "greater miracles" than Jesus from Jn 14:12. Every type or class of miracle that Jesus performed was also performed by the Apostles. Interpreting the "greater things" the apostles would do as "soul saving" is absurd because both Jesus and the apostles "saved souls" before the cross (Luke 10:1) and it violates the immediate context of the coming "Comforter" ... Speaking in tongues as gibberish (conveniently never a human language but always called a heavenly language so it is alwys "unconfirmable") is not a miracle because many occult non-Christian world religions also "speak in tongues [gibberish]" in exactly the same way. c. Read 1 Cor 13:8-13. Holy Spirit outlines: https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Holy-Spirit-in-the-Old-Testament-Samson-dove.jpg Holy Spirit in the Old Testament https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Holy-Spirit-in-the-New-Testament-Pentecost-to... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Gift-of-the-Holy-Spirit-miraculous-Joel2-28-Promise-of-the-Father-Baptism-Acts2-38.htm

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Holy Spirit in the Old Testament The Gift of the Holy Spirit ... Prayer of Gentile 2 Chr 6:32-33 "Also concerning the foreigner who is not from Thy people Israel, when they come and pray toward this house, then hear Thou from heaven, from Thy dwelling place IV. Solomon's Temple is the prophetic Type of the messianic Church Temple Antitype: A. Antitype: Revelation 21:3= Ezek 37:26-27 Messianic Prophecies of the "Indwelling" Ezek 37:26-28 = Rev 21:3 Rev 21:3 the tabernacle of God is ... Our bodies are not the literal temple of God but are the metaphoric temple of God. b. God indwells our bodies the same way he indwelled Solomon's temple. c. It is illogical to demand a "literal personal indwelling" of the Holy Spirit in a metaphoric temple. Holy Spirit outlines: https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Holy-Spirit-in-the-Old-Testament-Samson-dove.jpg Holy Spirit in the Old Testament https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Holy-Spirit-in-the-New-Testament-Pentecost-tongues-fire-dove.jpg Holy Spirit ... ... ...https://www.bible.ca/holyspirit/Holy-Spirit-in-the-Old-Testament.htm

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Official creed of the Orthodox church ... Mere personal conviction that one's teaching is correct can never be considered adequate proof of accuracy. Today, critics of apostolic succession are those who stand outside that historic succession and seek a self-identity with the early Church only. The burgeoning number of denominations in the world can be ... Creation did not just come into existence by itself. God made it all. "By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God..." (Hebrews 11:3). Orthodox Christians do not believe the Bible to be a science textbook on creation, as some mistakenly maintain, but rather to be God's revelation of Himself and His salvation. Also, we do not view ... The outlook of our Church was particularly well-defined in a statement issued on December 31, 1931, when the Russian Church Abroad appointed its representative to the Committee for the Continuation of the World Conference on Faith and Order: "Preserving the Faith is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, the ... ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-Orthodox.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Mistakes made by the Apostolic Fathers based ... The question remains, therefore, how did they decide which interpretation is correct?" (THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church, Clark Carlton, 1997, p 102) Carlton, is always looking for ways to trash the need for the Bible and would love it if all Bibles on earth were destroyed and all we had left was the opinion of his Orthodox Church. He actually uses Prov 8:22 as an example of why sola Scriptura doesn't work. What it proves, is that tradition doesn't work, because most Trinitarians today, including the Roman Catholic church, do not apply Prov 8:22 to Christ any more. Although Carlton is wrong when he says the "Orthodox" merely started to apply the ... of Christ, without ever even taking note of whether is applied merely to Christ's humanity. But Carlton actually deceives you because the Nicene fathers did exactly what we would expect them to do, namely: reject that the passage refers to Christ at all! By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-tradition-fathers-mistakes.htm

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Exodus Route: Men who misled the world away from truth ... Although it is found on every Bible map today this location is almost universally rejected by informed archeologists and Bible students alike. a. Helena chose Mt. Musa at St. Catherine's monastery based upon a vision she saw in a dream. b. Helena chose many sites in the Bible lands, most of which we know today were wrong. 2. Unfortunately, the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches have decreed that Mt. Sinai is located at St. Catherine's monastery which closes the door and the mind to considering alternatives because then their "divine ... water level records of the Nile during the 12th Dynasty pharaoh are a clear refutation of David's Rohl's New Chronology. Instead of Rohl "reexamining" Genesis 41 and fabricating his novel "flood famine" exegesis, he should have "reexamined" his New Chronology as unworkable, or at a minimum, admitted the nilometers refute his thesis. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/exodus/bible-archaeology-Exodus-Route-deception-Apion-Queen-Helena-Henry-Trumbull-Ron-Wyatt-Bob-Cornuke-Lennart-Moller-Jim-Caldwell-Ryan-Mauro-Gordon-Franz-David-Rohl.htm

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Burial Box of James, the Lord's Brother found! the inscription said. The 15-25 year delay, therefore, only hinders authentication of the artifact. After the box was shipped to Canada for a museum display, it was discovered the box was damaged in transport. This was due to no fault of Canada or the museum to which it was shipped. The owner had not used qualified "museum trained" packers, who if used, would have packed it properly. For the Roman Catholic or a member of an Orthodox sect this box refutes a false doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary, the mother of Jesus. Of course we don't need the inscription on the burial box of James to prove Mary had other children with Joseph her husband after the virgin birth of Jesus. We have the Bible was plainly says in 14 different passages that Jesus had other blood brothers and sisters. For a detailed theological review of the Bible texts that prove Jesus had other blood brothers and sisters through Mary and Joseph, click here. Steve Rudd Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-archeolgy-burial-box-james.htm

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Sola Scriptura: Scripture tells us John wrote the fourth Gospel ... (The Orthodox, are at least consistent in accepting this tradition, not that they are correct.) All this question about who wrote Hebrews, should embarrass the Roman Catholic church who says by its own inspired, God given authority, determined the 27 book canon. They claim that Rome determined Hebrews was inspired, yet never could say for certain who wrote the book. If knowing who wrote the fourth gospel is so important, they why is knowing who wrote Hebrews any less important? B. Apostle John wrote the fourth gospel: "The disciple whom Jesus loved = John" Scripture does not explicitly say who wrote the fourth gospel, but scripture does clearly reveal that John is the author when you take all the Bible verses ... true." John 21:24 It is clear from scripture, therefore, that the "disciple whom Jesus loved" is John. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-beloved-disciple-john.htm

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Sola Scriptura and the Apostolic Fathers: 375 AD: Gregory of ... Sola Scriptura: The Bible alone is enough! Apostolic Fathers used scripture as the primary defense against false doctrine. Click to View Sola Scriptura home page Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Dates they lived and other information. Click to View Apostolic Fathers: Five kinds of Tradition. Click to View Mandatory: Apostolic Fathers Catechism Class for Catholics and Orthodox. 375 AD: Gregory of Nyssa: "But while the latter proceeded, on the subject of the soul, as far in the direction of ... the problem, we must keep for ever, firm and unmoved, the tradition which we received by succession from the fathers, and seek from the Lord the reason which is the advocate of our faith: and if this be found by any of those endowed with grace, we ... we draw your attention to the fact that the phrase, "We confess that the doctrine of the Lord" refers directly to a quote from Matthew 28:18, "Now the doctrine of the Lord is this: "Go,"". by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-gregory.htm

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Lists and Catalogues of Old Testament Canon Collections ... This table is based on Appendix D of The SBL Handbook of Style (Peabody: Hendrickson, 1999), 168-71 Jewish The traditional number of books in the Jewish canon is twenty-four. Orthodox "Orthodox" here refers to the Greek and Russian Orthodox churches, the Slavonic Bible being the traditional text of the latter. In Orthodox Bibles, 4 Maccabees and the Prayer of Manasseh-and in Slavonic, 3 Esdras-are in an appendix. Roman Catholic The traditional number of books in the Roman Catholic canon is forty-nine. The order of books in Roman Catholic Bibles varies. This order reflects current ... Haggai Obadiah Zechariah Zechariah Jonah Malachi Malachi Micah Isaiah Nahum Jeremiah Habakkuk Baruch Zephaniah Lamentations of Jeremiah Haggai Epistle of Jeremiah Zechariah Ezekiel Malachi Daniel [Includes Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Young Men, Susanna, and Bel and the Dragon.] By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-OT-collections-macdonald.htm

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Doctrinal Flip Flops of Jehovah's Witnesses! Do not seek to bind others' consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God's Word today. (Watchtower Sept. 15, 1895, p. 216) Section 1: Scripture and interpretation 100% All Quotations take directly from Watchtower Publications God is the editor of the Watchtower??? Bible not applicable to the average Jw, but only the 144,000??? King James Version the most masterful and perfect Bible??? Jw's Accuse others of being false prophets, but condemn self??? Conscious life after death??? Section 2: Nature of God 100% All Quotations take directly from Watchtower Publications Jehovah lives in Pleiades star cluster galaxy? Star Trek anyone??? Spelling of "Jehovah" originated with Catholic monk in ... and wherever we would go we could find opportunities to serve him and his cause" (THE WATCHTOWER, April 15, 1903, pg. 120). Click to View Pick another/Go to top . . Go back to Main Jehovah's Witness Index Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/Jw-changes.htm

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The False doctrine of Roman Catholic papal infallibility ... Finally, Jesus Himself said that "all authority" was given to Him both "in heaven and on earth (Mt. 28:18-20). C. Paul would make a far better "pope" than Peter: The Bible says apostle Paul was certainly in Rome, we have nothing in the Bible that says Peter was ever in Rome. Paul is more front and center in the book of Acts than Peter. Paul is the great apostle whose record we have of going far and abroad to preach the ... God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15 The church that supports and upholds the truth, is distinguished from the truth she upholds. That truth is the gospel message contained in scripture. If the "church" is the source of truth, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches claim, again we ask, which one, for they are divided against themselves in doctrine! obviously then, the traditionalist interpretation of this passage is as vacuous as it is illogical. By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/catholic-infallibility.htm

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Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!!! ... Only the Greek word for immersion is ever used for Baptism in the Bible. The first recorded case of sprinkling was in 257 AD to someone on a sick-bed. It was then an exception to the rule and brought about fierce opposition from the whole church. Not until 757 AD did the church accept sprinkling in such sick-bed cases of necessity. It wasn't until 1311 AD, when the Catholic council of Ravenna, declared that sprinkling was and acceptable substitute for immersion and from that time forward sprinkling replaced immersion in the Roman Catholic church. The Orthodox church refused sprinkling and still immerses to this day. Click to View Question #1: Was Jesus baptized by full immersion in ... by Christ himself. You really shouldn't be reading the Bible anyway. And while we are talking about it, what else do you want me to teach you about what the Bible says? Is the Roman Catholic church the church you read about in the Bible? o YES NO o By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-overview-false-teaching.htm

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Synagogue Organization and Government: Elders, officials, attendants ... ... Introduction b. Graphical Mouse Rollover of gradual change of organization over time c. 4 Competing views of organization d. Outline: 33-150 AD e. Outline: 250-451 AD f. Outline: 451-588 AD g. Outline: 588-606 AD h. Outline: 606 AD-Today i. Catholic organization today j. Orthodox organization today k. True Bible organization today 3. Find a local congregation of the New Testament church in your own home town that is organized EXACTLY like first century synagogues and churches. By Steve Rudd 2017: Contact the author for ... Synagogue in your own home town. As a Jew, you will find the transition as easy today as it was for the tens of thousands of your forefathers living in Jerusalem 2000 years ago when they believed in Jesus the Nazarene (the branch) as their messiah. It's time to come home! Click here to find a church near you. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go to: Main Ancient Synagogue Start Page Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Government-organization-Elders-officials-attendants-Synagogue-Independent-overseer-shepherd-first-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-prototype-ancient.htm

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The Canon of Marcion the heretic ... III. Others quickly identified Marcion as a dangerous heretic: At any rate, it is clear that Tertullian was not the first to realize that there was a problem with Marcion's Bible and try to answer his claims. (Lee Martin McDonald, James A. Sanders, Editors: The Canon Debate; Everett Ferguson, Factors Leading to the Selection ... V. Roman Catholic and Orthodox get Marcion wrong: 1. Father James Bernstein, an Orthodox church leader wrote: a. "The first person on record who tried to establish a New Testament canon was the second-century heretic, Marcion. ... Many scholars believe that it was partly in reaction to this distorted canon of Marcion that the early Church ... Marcion's specific removal and denial of many New Testament books from his own canon, including all of Peter, James and John, proves they were already in use between 125-144 AD and widely accepted as scripture. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-canon-of-marcion.htm

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The organization of the Roman Catholic church ... One of the official titles of the Bishop of Rome today, is "Patriarch of the west". This is because in 600 AD there were 4 Patriarchs of the east, (Antioch and Alexandria, Jerusalem and Constantinople) who eventually split off in 1054AD to become the Greek Orthodox church., and one "Patriarch of the West." (Rome) The following terms are applied to the Pope: Bishop of the city of Rome (head of the a local diocese in Rome) Vicar of Jesus Christ Successor of St. Peter Pope (Universal ... that is organized exactly as the Bible says Click to View 30-606 AD: The gradual historical Development of the Papal and Patriarchal Systems of Centralized Church Government away from the organization found in the Bible. Click to View There are a total of at least 30 Roman Catholic denominations in the world. There are 22 different liturgies within the Roman Catholic church (which we have graciously counted as 1) and between 8 - 66 independent schisms. Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/catholic-church-hierarchy-organization.htm

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Sola Scriptura: The rock of the wilderness that followed them ... ... proves oral tradition dangerous and unreliable, because without scripture, we would never know which portions of the many contradictory legends were valid and fable. In other words, without scripture telling us, it would be utterly impossible for us today to know if the Jewish tradition was valid or fable. For Roman Catholic and Orthodox defenders to use 1 Cor 10:4 as an example of oral tradition is as blind-sighted as it is illogical. For if Paul had not written it in scripture, these modern tradition defenders would never have attempted to validate these obscure Jewish Rabbinical traditions. Without scripture, neither the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches would ever have taught about a literal rock that followed Christ. That is because they would not know how to separate truth from fable in the traditions. Click to View More Pro-Oral Church tradition arguments refuted! Click to View More Anti-Sola Scriptura arguments refuted! by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-pro-tradition-christ-rock-followed-1-cor-10-4.htm

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Sola Scriptura proof texts: 1 Corinthians 4:6 In the time of transition (50 - 96 AD) between 100% oral (30- 50 AD) and 100% written (96 AD - present), we find the highest standard is written. This is most troubling to traditionalists in their myth making claims the church did not have the Bible until the 4th century. A. Context: of connected passages: Matthew 16:18 + 1 Cor 1:10-13 + 1 Cor 3:5-17 + 1 Cor 4:6. "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I ... how he builds on it." (1 Cor 3:10) Click to View "I used the gardener and builder figures to that you learn not to exceed what is written" (1 Cor 4:6) Click to View Jesus intended his church to built upon scripture, not Peter or oral traditions. Conclusion: 1 Cor 4:6 so clearly refutes the Roman Catholic and Orthodox church's doctrine of oral tradition, they do not know what to do with it! Jesus said, "upon this rock I will build My church" and Paul warned: "in building the church, do not exceed scripture!" by Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-proof-texts-1-corinthians-4-6.htm

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Abbott, Lyman: Dictionary of Religious Knowledge ... Goodbye Brooklyn!), baptism, the Lord's supper and the doctrine of blood atonement. Abbott is an ultra liberal. "Abbott, Lyman: His theological position is that of a Congregationalist of the Liberal Evangelical type." (The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia, Abbott, Lyman, Vol 1, p7) But not content that he is a Liberal, ... theologians! In fact, the only one's who will affirm this are liberals like Abbott who trashes much of the Bible, but not all, or Athiests and modernists who trash the whole of Christianity. (like Arthur trinity-Weigall.htm, whom Jw's also love to quote!) It is dishonest for the Watchtower to say, Trinity "is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith", but not tell you the author also trashes all church organization, baptism, the Lord's supper and the doctrine of blood atonement in the same breath! Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: ... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Abbott.htm

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Is the Catholic church an infallible interpreter of scripture ... ... This Church has had an unbroken line of succession from Peter himself; these legitimate pontiffs are the heirs and defenders of the same teaching, rank, office and power. And the Church is where Peter is,[5] and Peter speaks in the Roman Pontiff,[6] living at all times in his successors and making judgment,[7] providing the truth of the faith to those who seek it.[8] The divine words therefore mean what this Roman See of the most blessed Peter holds and has held." (Qui Pluribus, (On Faith And ... of the Word of God, whether in its written form [Scripture] or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living, teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ."47 This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994, Libreria Editrice Vaticana, page 27.) Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-bible-church-interpreter.htm

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Silence of Scripture and Bible authority ... Although the first century church had no organization larger than the local church, institutionalists today want to use "sponsoring churches" and "missionary societies" to do the word of evangelism. In the Bible, (Phil. 4:14-16) funds for evangelism, were never sent from one church to another but always directly to a ... Eph. 5:19 Historically the early Christians did not use instrumental music from the time of the apostles until 670 AD when organs were first introduced sparingly and with great opposition. The Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches split in 1033 AD in part over instrumental music. The Orthodox church, even today, has never used instruments. No ... p. 257) Denominationalists today will argue, "God allowed instruments in the OT and God never forbade instruments in the NT, it must be OK." But notice this is EXACTLY the same argument the Jewish Christians were using in Acts 15 to force circumcision for salvation! By Steve Rudd Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/d-authority-silence-traffic-signs.htm

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Rejected books, widely used in the first two centuries, but not ... Sinai, it is obvious why every church in the world, except for the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, rejects it as pseudepigraphal and a forgery. The Book of Jubilees is within the official canon of the Orthodox Church (Ethiopian), but is called the "Book of Division". But still, it is a historical document that circulated among the ... It has heretical doctrinal slant of the Gnostic Encratites. "Literally, "abstainers" or "persons who practised continency", because they refrained from the use of wine, animal food, and marriage." (New Advent Catholic Enyclopedia, Encratites) Gospel According to the Hebrews: The date of the book is difficult to know but may be as ... of which some twenty or more fragments, preserved in their writings, have come down to us. The book itself has long disappeared." (ISBE, Hebrews, Gospel According To The, 1915) This book was never considered canonical. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/b-canon-rejected-books.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Revelation 22:3 ... This is exactly what happens in Rev 20:6. The Jehovah's Witnesses completely ignore this fact and claim that Rev 22:3 excludes Christ. They don't comprehend the irrefutable power of the pattern of "singular use" in the Book of Revelation and specifically Rev 20:6. D. Jehovah's Witnesses share theology with Catholics: Click to View Mariolatry In a bizarre twist, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses actually share the same theological argument in allowing worship ... lengths to show that Catholics indeed to offer divine worship to Mary, in spite of Catholic objections. Yet when Trinitarians made the identical argument to Jehovah's Witnesses, in regard to the worship of Jesus in the highest sense, they deny it. So in utter hypocrisy, Jehovah's Witnesses viciously accuse Catholics of worshipping Mary, then borrow the Catholic argument for themselves in their defense that Jesus is worshipped, but not in the highest sense! By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-revelation22-3.htm

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Trinity proof texts: Mark 2:7 ... Jesus had many inherent divine rights before he became man, but chose to relinquish personal claim to these rights and act as a perfect slave towards the Father. John 5:30 "I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. Anti-Trinitarian rebuttal #5 The Jews called Jesus a blasphemer, because only Levitical priests could pronounce forgiveness. Jesus was of the tribe of Judah. Anti-Trinitarian ... related to the power given to the Church to continue the judicial character of Christ (3:19; 5:27; 9:39) in the matter of sin (cf. Mt 9:8; 16:19; 18:18; Lk 24:47). Catholic tradition (DB 920; DS 1710) has rightly seen in this act the origin of the Sacrament of Penance, even though it is equally true that the Church's power over sin is also exercised in baptism and the preaching of the redemptive word." (Jerome Biblical Commentary, Catholic, John 20:21) Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-mark2-7.htm

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Bible Authority: Generic & Specific plus 4 methods of authority ... ... any type of bread) Blood: Mt 26:26-29 Fruit of Vine (authorized by specific authority: "fruit of the vine") Milk (prohibited by specific authority: "fruit of the vine") White grape juice (authorized by generic authority: any kind of "fruit of the vine") Wine (prohibited by specific authority: contains leaven "unleavened") Cola (prohibited by specific authority: "fruit of the vine") Water (prohibited by specific authority: "fruit of the vine") PARTICIPANTS All of you (authorized by specific authority: "every one of you") Women (authorized by generic authority: "every one of you") Catholic Priests only (prohibited by specific authority: "every one of you") Men (authorized by generic authority: "every one of you") ORDER: 1 Cor 11:33 (Ex 12:19; 34:25) Individually at different times of day (prohibited by specific authority: "when you come together") Together within assembly (authorized by specific authority: "when you come together") Steve Rudd Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE... ... https://www.bible.ca/d-authority-acts-15-silence.htm

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Mental Illness Myths and other Unicorns! Click to View "Low self-esteem" is bad Most mentally ill people suffer from high self-esteem, not low. The Bible commands the Christian to have low self-esteem, not high! A Biblical counselor will commend you when you tell him you have low self-esteem! Psychiatrist buffet of quackery: Click to View Psychologists are modern "Witch prickers" Click to View Treatment type or treatment length is irrelevant Click to View Bereavement counseling is ineffective and unproven Click to View Intelligence testing (IQ testing) is junk science that led to eugenics fuelled by Darwinism. Click to View Psychologists seek credibility by deceptively fashioning themselves to appear to be another branch of medicine Click to View Catalogue of psychiatric junk ... (Dr. H. J. Eysenck, Time Magazine, February 14, 1964, p. 43) Click to View By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Send us your story about your experience with modern Psychiatry Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-mental-illness-myths.htm

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Official creed of Church of the Nazarene ... It being the Communion feast, only those who have faith in Christ and love for the saints should be called to participate therein. Ex 12:1-14; Mt 26:26-29; Mr 14:22-25; Lu 22:17-20; Joh 6:28-58; 1Co 10:14-21; 11:23-32 XIV. DIVINE HEALING We believe in the Bible doctrine of divine healing and urge our people to seek to offer the prayer of faith for the healing of the sick. Providential means and agencies when deemed necessary should not be refused. 2Ki 5:1-19; Ps 103:1-5; Mt 4:23,24; 9:18-35; Joh ... with the Christian simplicity and modesty that become holiness. Pr 29:23; 1Ti 2:8-10; Jas 4:6; 1Pe 3:3,4; 1Jo 2:15-17 (8) Music, literature, and entertainments that dishonor God 1Co 10:31; 2Co 6:14-17; Jas 4:4 THIRD. By abiding in hearty fellowship with the church, not inveighing against but wholly committed to its doctrines and usages and actively involved in its continuing witness and outreach. Eph 2:18-22; 4:1-3; 4:11-16; Php 2:1-8; 1Pe 2:9,10 Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cr-Nazarene.htm

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Heaven: Jehovah's Witness style Error #8 ... Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a king. Powerful verse. Pilate was concerned that Jesus was a king OF THE SAME TYPE AS PILATE. (JW's believe that Jesus is a king that will directly and literally battle all the kings of the earth!) Jesus dispelled this notion to Pilate by assuring ... two class system. The governing body, or the 144,000 do get to go to heaven exactly like the rest of Orthodox Christendom believes, the rest of the JW's get stuck on the restored garden paradise on the earth. There is absolutely no justification for dividing up the Bible to those passage that only apply to the 144,000 and the great crowd. THERE IS ONE HOPE. Eph 4:4-6 not two as JW's teach where some hope to go to heaven and some hope to get stuck on this planet earth??? Neo-Sadduceeism exposed website Pick another number! What is wrong with this picture? 8 things are wrong!!! Click on each red number to find out! Click to View Neo-Sadduceeism exposed website Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/jw-heaven-8.htm

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The Decepto-Meter goes crazy when you bring it near the Watchtower ... Click to View The Decepto-Meter! We brought each quote near the decepto-meter for a reading to determine the type of deception and how bad it was. Here are the four categories of misquotes as determined by the decepto-meter! Satanic Quote: So utterly ... Self-quoting: Quoting fellow anti-Trinitarians to trash the trinity, is no better than a Catholic quoting a priest to prove that Peter is the first pope! Click to View This symbol at the left, indicates that the source is used in the "Should you ... Morenz, Siegfried Egyptian Religion Deceptive Quote Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Christianity and rejects the inspiration of the Bible Noss, John B. Man's Religions Satanic Quote Christianity Trasher Trashes whole of Core Christianity Reade, ... to the Watchtower view of Jesus than the Trinitarian view because of the deity of Jesus. Jocz, Jacob The Jewish People and Jesus Christ Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA www.bible.ca ... ...https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-jw-anti-trinity-booklet-decepto-meter.htm

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Historical search for Kadesh Barnea from 1000 BC - Present ... Two passages in the Bible describe this "wilderness before the crossing point": Judges 11:16; Exodus 13:18. Philo describes it in detail. This not only rules out the Bitter Lakes and a North Suez crossing point, it also proves Mt. Sinai cannot be in the Sinai Peninsula. Philo's use of the terms Arab and Arabia, were restricted ... This one act by Helena is the cause of all the confusion in the Exodus route down to this present time. Only when we realize the evil Helena did in her blind and random choice, do we begin to search for the real Exodus route. This location is "canonized" by the Catholic and Orthodox churches, even though most people are certain it is not ... many errors in almost every map in every Bible will be corrected to reflect true Bible geography. Conclusion: Kadesh Barnea is located at or near Petra at Beidha. Click here to learn the true location of Kadesh Barnea! By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-historical-search.htm

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100 Free Printable Public Use Bible Maps ... You are not permitted to sell these maps or charge any money in their distribution. d. You are not permitted to alter the maps in any way. The original copyright and the link to this web site (www.bible.ca) must remain on all the images. 4. Personal ... Lk 4:24-27 2 Chron 22:5-7 Turned to the dark Side Elisha the type of Christ "House of David" inscription coming Outline Outline Outline SERMON OUTLINE MAPS: Samaritans, Josiah, Jehoiakim, Zedekiah, Babylonian Captivity Samaritans Josiah Jehoiakim Zedekiah 723 BC- AD 70 640-609 BC 609-598 BC 598-587 BC John 4:7-43 2 Samuel 13-22 Jer 36 2 Kings 24:17 The Pagan half-Jews who converted to monotheism The Promised Child The Bible Burner Israel's last hope Outline Outline Outline Outline SERMON OUTLINE ... Click to View Paul's last instructions to his fellow preachers! 2 Timothy Outline with high resolution map Click to View Directory of Churches mentioned in the Bible 33-100 AD Click to View Middle East Today High Resolution Map Click to View Israel ... ... https://www.bible.ca/maps/welcome.htm

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Essay on the Demoniacs of the New Testament, Hugh Farmer, 1775 ... Insanity is not Demon possession! more In 1775 AD, Hugh Farmer, church minister, correctly taught that demon possession never caused insanity. Farmer would not "ascribe madness and epileptic fits to possession, rather than other disorders". The Bible ... What is important to point out, is that he correctly rejected the idea that insanity was caused by supernatural demon possession. In this regard, he was orthodox among his fellow church preachers. Supernatural demon possession is real, but it has never been the cause of insanity. (Essay on the Demoniacs of the New Testament, Hugh Farmer, 1775 AD) "[between 1300 - 1700 AD] Mental illness is judged a phenomenon of natural, not supernatural, origin; commissioners seek to measure mental status, not ... relief, prevented his pain, and restored him to a state of perfect sanity'. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Send us your story about your experience with modern Psychiatry Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/essay-on-the-demoniacs-of-the-new-testament-hugh-farmer-1775ad.htm

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Synagogue prototype master summary chart and introduction: The ... ... Decisions made by mutual agreement of all the elders in each assembly. 4. Work: a. Teach Bible b. Benevolence for Jews/Christians only 5. Worship: a. Women not segregated from men, b. Read Bible, preach and teach c. acapella Singing, non -instrumental d. Prayer e. Sacred meals (No common ... On almost every single specific of function and practice, synagogue and Church worship are the same. 2. Modern Rabbinic Judaism is as foreign from Biblical mosaic temple worship as the Roman Catholic church is foreign from New Testament Christianity. a. Both Rabbinic Judaism and Catholicism have huge volumes of the exact type of man-made rules that Rabbi Jesus of Nazareth condemned. b. The modern practice of Judaism ... ago when they believed in Jesus the Nazarene (the branch) as their messiah. It's time to come home! Click here to find a church near you. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go to: Main Ancient Synagogue Start Page Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/synagogues/Worship-Introduction-master-Summary-chart-Synagogue-First-century-early-Christian-Church-New-Testament-patterned-copied-ancient-prototype-ritual-liturgy.htm

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Why I left the Roman Catholic church! (personal testimony) ... As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ. But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel ... It is essential to a proper understanding of what we shall say henceforth. The weight of that conclusion, as it is readily arrived at in the Scriptures, might well account for why the Catholic Church contends that the Bible is a "dead letter." Now, perhaps it can be better understood why the Council of Trent in its twenty-fifth session decreed that a ... in behalf of truth. Cast out that evil influence, as was Jezebel of old! How? Exalt and spread the Bible's influence. No one can embrace Catholicism without rejecting the Bible. The sword of the Spirit is the Word of God. Click to View Find the true church in your own home town! Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-why-I-left.htm

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Development from the trinity as taught in the Bible and the trinity ... Therefore, we do not defend the Nicene creed or the Athanasius creed, but are content to simply prove the deity of the uncreated Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. But for Jw's the rejection of Catholic doctrinal development, while ... By the end of the fourth century, and owing mainly to the challenge posed by various heresies, theologians went beyond the immediate testimony of the Bible and also beyond liturgical and creedal expressions of trinitarian faith to the ontological ... By the close of the fourth century the orthodox teaching was in place: God is one nature, three persons (mia ousia, treis hupostaseis). (The Encyclopedia of Religion, Mircea Eliade, Trinity, Vol 15, p53-57) In the New Testament affirmations about the ... logic, they must conclude that the Lord's Supper and the second coming were borrowed from the Pagans! Click to View Also see outline on: Progressive revelation between the Old and New Testaments. By Steve Rudd Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-development.htm

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Strengthening Your Marriage before it fails! ... Sit down with your spouse and list the things you must enjoy doing in life. Then ask yourselves how often you actually do these things. Make an effort to increase these fun things in your life. You will find as you seek for different ways to make each other happy that you will add to the beauty of your marriage and to the pleasure of your life. Another way to ... so occupied that you are constantly fatigued and irritable, and so involved that you rarely see each other, there is no way your marriage can be the type of relationship God intended it to be. No relationship in life has more potential for bringing happiness than that between husband and wife. Surely then it would be beneficial to take steps to prevent our marriage from deteriorating into indifference. By practicing the principles already mentioned it is quite likely that your marriage will once again become the vital, growing, and very happy relationship it was intended to be. Click Your Choice Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/f-strengthening-marriage.htm

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Water from a Rock: Mt. Sinai (Lawz) and Kadesh (Petra) Wadi Musa ... ... I know of none.' " Isaiah 44:8 "They did not thirst when He led them through the deserts. He made the water flow out of the rock for them; He split the rock and the water gushed forth." Isaiah 48:21 "Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness, Who seek the Lord: Look to the rock from which you were hewn And to the quarry from which you were dug." Isaiah 51:1 D. David and Isaiah introduce Christ as the rock of offence: "The stone which the ... the east for a year. Evidence of this old river bed might be difficult to locate, given 3500 years of sand storms. The imagery of Christ as "The Rock", as well as all the varied "rock" imagery throughout the Bible, has its origin in Moses at Sinai and Kadesh. Moses striking the rock lays the foundation of a major Bible anti-type applied directly to Christ as the Rock that provides food and water for salvation, safety, security and judgement. By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-moses-struck-rock-waterless.htm

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Is the RC church infallible and unable to make errors? ... If God's chosen people under the Old Testament went into error, and the inspired writers declared that those things were written as a type to admonish us, it necessarily follows that God's people under the New Testament can go into error. This shows conclusively that the church is not infallible. The relationship that the church sustains to Christ is the same as that of the individual Christian. As long as the individual abides in the Word of the Lord, he will never perish and no outside forces ... John A. O'Brien, Our Sunday Visitor, Huntington, Ind., 1938. The Faith of Our Fathers, James Cardinal Gibbons, John Murphy Co., Baltimore, Md., 1917. CATHOLIC TRANSLATIONS Confraternity-Douay Version, Timothy Press, Chicago, 1959 Douay-Rheims Version, Catholic Book Publishing Co., New York, 1945. Catholic Edition-Revised Standard Version, Published by Thomas Nelson & Sons Ltd for the Incorporated Catholic Truth Society, London, 1966. By David J. Riggs Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/cath-church-infallible.htm

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Strengthening Your Marriage before it fails! ... Sit down with your spouse and list the things you must enjoy doing in life. Then ask yourselves how often you actually do these things. Make an effort to increase these fun things in your life. You will find as you seek for different ways to make each other happy that you will add to the beauty of your marriage and to the pleasure of your life. Another way to ... so occupied that you are constantly fatigued and irritable, and so involved that you rarely see each other, there is no way your marriage can be the type of relationship God intended it to be. No relationship in life has more potential for bringing happiness than that between husband and wife. Surely then it would be beneficial to take steps to prevent our marriage from deteriorating into indifference. By practicing the principles already mentioned it is quite likely that your marriage will once again become the vital, growing, and very happy relationship it was intended to be. Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/marriage/f-strengthening-marriage.htm

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Conclusion to the 500 year historical overview: of the Bible. A man was not seen as "melancholy or depressed", instead he was rebuked for being lazy and not working. A man was not seen as a "raving madman", instead he was rebuked for having uncontrollable outburst of anger. The insane were held accountable for their all their actions just like everyone else. There was no such thing as "not guilty for reasons of insanity". If you did the crime... you did the time... no exceptions. The poor (which included the insane) could seek help from ... The recent collapse of Feudalism drove the poor into the cities as beggars and the Renaissance and the Enlightenment had just dawned. The Roman Catholic church was rife with corruption and indulgences triggered the Protestant Reformation with the aid ... that are remarkable, dramatic and stunning. Click to View Click to View By Steve Rudd: Contact the author for comments, input or corrections. Send us your story about your experience with modern Psychiatry Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... ...https://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-history-conclusion.htm

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Frend, W.H.C.: The Rise of Christianity ... Then, Eusebius of Caesarea, probably with the idea of clearing himself of the charges of heresy which he had faced earlier in the year at Antioch, brought to Constantine's notice the baptismal creed of his own Church. This was accepted as an orthodox statement, but recent research suggests that it was not in fact used as the basis ... these the Catholic and Apostolic Church anathernatizes." The Emperor exerted all his influence toward securing unanimity; and at length only two bishops stood out. These were old friends of Arius, and they were excommunicated. But two other senior bishops, Eusebius of Nicomedia and Tbeognis of Nicaea, refused to sign the sentences directed against Arius and they too fell under imperial displeasure. Their opposition showed, however, that Nicene theology would not be completely acceptable to the East. (The Rise of Christianity, 1985, W.H.C. Frend, p140-141) Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible... ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Frend.htm

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Lamson, Alvan: The Church of the First Three Centuries It is true, they speak of the Father, Son, and . . . holy Spirit, but not as co-equal, not as one numerical essence, not as Three in One, in any sense now admitted by Trinitarians. The very reverse is the fact." Thus, the testimony of the Bible and ... the a Unitarian type church! We ask how objective is it to use a Unitarian as proof that trinity is pagan origin? This is an example of self quoting! Unitarians quote the Watchtower and the watchtower quotes the Unitarians. For Arians (Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians & United Pentecostal Church International: UPCI) to quote a Unitarian theologian, Alvan Lamson as an authority to prove the pagan origin of Trinity, is about as trustworthy and believable as quoting the a Catholic Bishop to ... or atheists who trash not only Trinity, but the whole of Christianity as of pagan origin! Go To Alphabetical Index Of Deceptive Quotes Written By Steve Rudd, Used by permission at: www.bible.ca Click to View Go To Start: WWW.BIBLE.CA ... https://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Lamson.htm

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