Anti-Trinity Proof Texts Refuted
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John 8:42 "I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me." |
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False Arian argument stated: The expression "proceeded forth" indicates that Jesus was created by God who was the source of Jesus existence. |
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What John 17:3 is actually saying:
John 8:42 "If God were your Father, you would love Me; for I proceeded forth (exerchomai)and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me. Mk 5:8 For He had been saying to him, "Proceed forth (exerchomai) from the man, you unclean spirit!" |
John 17:8 "O righteous Father, although the world has not known Thee, yet I have known Thee; and these have known that Thou didst send Me; John 7:28 I have not come of Myself, but He who sent Me is true, whom you do not know. 29 "I know Him; because I am from Him, and He sent Me." Jn 12:49 "For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me John 17:8 for the words which Thou gavest Me I have given to them; and they received them, and truly understood that I came forth from Thee, and they believed that Thou didst send Me. John 16:27-30 "because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth (exerchomai) from the Father. 28 "I came forth (exerchomai) from the Father, and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again, and going to the Father." 29 His disciples *said, "Lo, now You are speaking plainly, and are not using a figure of speech. 30 "Now we know that You know all things, and have no need for anyone to question You; by this we believe that You came from (exerchomai) God." |